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23. Conversion Therapy's Dark Reality The Queer Christian: Navigating Faith, Church and the Bible

    • Christianity

We discuss the deeply flawed practice of trying to change someone's sexual orientation.

Related Episodes:

8. Paul, Gay Marriage and Gender Pronouns

11. Why Young Christians Are Leaving the Church and Some Are Committing Suicide

12. The Problems with Purity

13. When Is Sex Between Two Unmarried People God Honoring? (Seven rules for sex between unmarried people)

21. A Trans Christian's Quest for Authenticity

Movies Referenced:

Boy Erased: https://www.netflix.com/title/80240538


Review quoted from The Jesuit Post: https://thejesuitpost.org/2018/11/boy-erased-conversion-therapy-and-the-catholic-church/

Pray Away: https://www.netflix.com/title/81040370


Review quoted from Conscience Magazine: https://www.catholicsforchoice.org/resource-library/netflixs-pray-away-exposes-conversion-therapy-fraud/

Articles and Websites Quoted:


The American Psychological Association (APA): https://www.apa.org/pi/lgbt/resources/just-the-facts
The New York Times: https://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/21/us/group-that-promoted-curing-gays-ceases-operations.html
Time magazine: https://time.com/3065495/9-ex-leaders-of-the-gay-conversion-therapy-movement-apologize/
The AMA calls for ban: https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/american-medical-association-backs-nationwide-conversion-therapy-ban-n1088731

Statistics quoted:


Alan Chambers quote, “99.9% have not experienced a change in their orientation” from: https://wthrockmorton.com/2012/01/09/alan-chambers-99-9-have-not-experienced-a-change-in-their-orientation/ or https://www.npr.org/2013/06/20/193965227/group-that-claimed-to-cure-gays-disbands-leader-apologizes
Post conversion therapy suicide ideation rate of 28% from Statista https://www.statista.com/statistics/1053024/lgbtq-youth-in-us-attempted-suicide-conversion-therapy-experience/
Trans children exposed to conversion therapy at a young age are four times more likely to report lifetime suicide attempts: https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/transgender-conversion-therapy-associated-severe-psychological-distress-n1052416

Finding Affirming, Sex-Positive Counselors Who Do NOT Believe in Conversion Therapy:


https://www.healthline.com/health/mental-health/therapy-for-lgbt#organizations
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/therapists/california?category=gay (Find the LGBTQ Affirming pull-down or edit the URL and replace “California” with “Texas” or whatever state you’re in)
https://www.choosingtherapy.com/finding-an-lgbtq-therapist/
https://allintherapyclinic.com/how-to-find-an-lgbt-affirming-therapist/
https://directory.choosingtherapy.com/
https://lgbtqhealthcaredirectory.org/

On-line therapy:


https://www.choosingtherapy.com/best-lgbtq-online-therapy-options/
https://www.talkspace.com/online-therapy/lgbtqia

Benefits of Church Attendance for Adults and Children:


https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/news/press-releases/regularly-attending-religious-services-associated-with-lower-risk-of-deaths-of-despair/
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/11302358/
https://academic.oup.com/ije/article/49/6/2030/5892419

Additional References and Resources


https://www.huffpost.com/entry/queer-youth-religion-suicide-study_n_5ad4f7b3e4b077c89ceb9774
https://www.thetrevorproject.org/ending-conversion-therapy/
https://glaad.org/conversiontherapy/
https://www.hrc.org/resources/the-lies-and-dangers-of-reparative-therapy
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/faith-leaders-lgbtq-conversion-therapy-ban_n_5fda6074c5b650b99ad93787
https://www.newportacademy.com/resources/mental-health/conversion-therapy-pray-away/
https://www.bbc.com/news/explainers-56496423
https://web.archive.org/web/20230405193059/https://exodusinternational.org/2013/06/i-am-sorry/
https://youtu.be/Ea10c6VXVx8?si=VebC4DTN9m37bkwD&t=197
https://www.aacap.org/AACAP/Policy_Statements/2018/Conversion_Therapy.aspx
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conversion_therapy

All quotes edited for clarity and brevity, and red by descript no

We discuss the deeply flawed practice of trying to change someone's sexual orientation.

Related Episodes:

8. Paul, Gay Marriage and Gender Pronouns

11. Why Young Christians Are Leaving the Church and Some Are Committing Suicide

12. The Problems with Purity

13. When Is Sex Between Two Unmarried People God Honoring? (Seven rules for sex between unmarried people)

21. A Trans Christian's Quest for Authenticity

Movies Referenced:

Boy Erased: https://www.netflix.com/title/80240538


Review quoted from The Jesuit Post: https://thejesuitpost.org/2018/11/boy-erased-conversion-therapy-and-the-catholic-church/

Pray Away: https://www.netflix.com/title/81040370


Review quoted from Conscience Magazine: https://www.catholicsforchoice.org/resource-library/netflixs-pray-away-exposes-conversion-therapy-fraud/

Articles and Websites Quoted:


The American Psychological Association (APA): https://www.apa.org/pi/lgbt/resources/just-the-facts
The New York Times: https://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/21/us/group-that-promoted-curing-gays-ceases-operations.html
Time magazine: https://time.com/3065495/9-ex-leaders-of-the-gay-conversion-therapy-movement-apologize/
The AMA calls for ban: https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/american-medical-association-backs-nationwide-conversion-therapy-ban-n1088731

Statistics quoted:


Alan Chambers quote, “99.9% have not experienced a change in their orientation” from: https://wthrockmorton.com/2012/01/09/alan-chambers-99-9-have-not-experienced-a-change-in-their-orientation/ or https://www.npr.org/2013/06/20/193965227/group-that-claimed-to-cure-gays-disbands-leader-apologizes
Post conversion therapy suicide ideation rate of 28% from Statista https://www.statista.com/statistics/1053024/lgbtq-youth-in-us-attempted-suicide-conversion-therapy-experience/
Trans children exposed to conversion therapy at a young age are four times more likely to report lifetime suicide attempts: https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/transgender-conversion-therapy-associated-severe-psychological-distress-n1052416

Finding Affirming, Sex-Positive Counselors Who Do NOT Believe in Conversion Therapy:


https://www.healthline.com/health/mental-health/therapy-for-lgbt#organizations
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/therapists/california?category=gay (Find the LGBTQ Affirming pull-down or edit the URL and replace “California” with “Texas” or whatever state you’re in)
https://www.choosingtherapy.com/finding-an-lgbtq-therapist/
https://allintherapyclinic.com/how-to-find-an-lgbt-affirming-therapist/
https://directory.choosingtherapy.com/
https://lgbtqhealthcaredirectory.org/

On-line therapy:


https://www.choosingtherapy.com/best-lgbtq-online-therapy-options/
https://www.talkspace.com/online-therapy/lgbtqia

Benefits of Church Attendance for Adults and Children:


https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/news/press-releases/regularly-attending-religious-services-associated-with-lower-risk-of-deaths-of-despair/
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/11302358/
https://academic.oup.com/ije/article/49/6/2030/5892419

Additional References and Resources


https://www.huffpost.com/entry/queer-youth-religion-suicide-study_n_5ad4f7b3e4b077c89ceb9774
https://www.thetrevorproject.org/ending-conversion-therapy/
https://glaad.org/conversiontherapy/
https://www.hrc.org/resources/the-lies-and-dangers-of-reparative-therapy
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/faith-leaders-lgbtq-conversion-therapy-ban_n_5fda6074c5b650b99ad93787
https://www.newportacademy.com/resources/mental-health/conversion-therapy-pray-away/
https://www.bbc.com/news/explainers-56496423
https://web.archive.org/web/20230405193059/https://exodusinternational.org/2013/06/i-am-sorry/
https://youtu.be/Ea10c6VXVx8?si=VebC4DTN9m37bkwD&t=197
https://www.aacap.org/AACAP/Policy_Statements/2018/Conversion_Therapy.aspx
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conversion_therapy

All quotes edited for clarity and brevity, and red by descript no

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