A conversation between Kathleen Goldhar (Escaping NXIVM) and Natalie Robehmed

In this episode of Crime Story, host Kathleen Goldhar — who helped created the Escaping NXIVM podcast — interviews Natalie Robehmed about how Allison after NXIVM came together, what it was like gaining Allison's trust, and navigating the complexities of reporting on someone who's both a victim and a perpetrator. Find more from Crime Story here: https://link.mgln.ai/FeUY3G