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18. Theories of private property in the age of capitalism: Hobbes and Locke A Shareable World

    • Society & Culture

“…all of this is important because it's about how I, or you or anyone else has to live one's daily life. In other words, all these theories are just that there are things that intellectuals play with. But the problem is how do I live my daily life? How do I justify what I do when I get up in the morning? How do I treat my children, and my grandchildren? And so forth. That's where it has to be considered.”—big mike



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In this episode:



00:00 How do utopian forms of thinking change, looking into the 16th and 17th centuries, towards justifying current power structures as opposed to opposing them? What does this have to do with competing strands of emerging socialism and capitalism? How does private property emerge as an idea and practice? How does it relate to theories of the social contract?



13:29 How are different justifications for (or attacks on) private property derived from different concepts of the ‘state of nature,’ or fables about prehistory? How does Locke’s theory about property anticipate the labor theory of value in Marx?



28:10 What are labor theories of value? How did they allow people to articulate utopian forms of society, based around valuing the worker? What ideas do people have around the management of wealth and the planning of society?



37:44 What are the assumptions about human beings built in to stories about private property and the social contract? How does this have to do with earlier discussed stories around the Bible etc.? What does socialism assume about human nature?



43:13 How do questions around human nature enable us to think about what education should look like in a new society?



Further Reading



Johann Valentin Andreae, Christianopolis



Tommaso Campanella, The City of the Sun



Peter Chamberlen, The Poore Man's Advocate



Thomas Hobbes, Leviathan



John Locke, Second Treatise on Government

“…all of this is important because it's about how I, or you or anyone else has to live one's daily life. In other words, all these theories are just that there are things that intellectuals play with. But the problem is how do I live my daily life? How do I justify what I do when I get up in the morning? How do I treat my children, and my grandchildren? And so forth. That's where it has to be considered.”—big mike



Listen: iTunes, Spotify, Mixcloud | Transcript



In this episode:



00:00 How do utopian forms of thinking change, looking into the 16th and 17th centuries, towards justifying current power structures as opposed to opposing them? What does this have to do with competing strands of emerging socialism and capitalism? How does private property emerge as an idea and practice? How does it relate to theories of the social contract?



13:29 How are different justifications for (or attacks on) private property derived from different concepts of the ‘state of nature,’ or fables about prehistory? How does Locke’s theory about property anticipate the labor theory of value in Marx?



28:10 What are labor theories of value? How did they allow people to articulate utopian forms of society, based around valuing the worker? What ideas do people have around the management of wealth and the planning of society?



37:44 What are the assumptions about human beings built in to stories about private property and the social contract? How does this have to do with earlier discussed stories around the Bible etc.? What does socialism assume about human nature?



43:13 How do questions around human nature enable us to think about what education should look like in a new society?



Further Reading



Johann Valentin Andreae, Christianopolis



Tommaso Campanella, The City of the Sun



Peter Chamberlen, The Poore Man's Advocate



Thomas Hobbes, Leviathan



John Locke, Second Treatise on Government

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