Public Defenders Sajid Khan and Avi Singh podcast on the criminal system on Aider and Abettor.
The show includes discussions about the mismatch between the criminal system's purported values and actual function.
Sajid Khan is a public defender in San Jose, CA. Sajid is a the author of Closing Arguments, a blog focused on criminal law and social justice. His work is published by the National Association of Public Defense. Sajid graduated from UC Berkeley and UC Hastings College of Law.
Avi Singh is a public defender in San Jose, CA. Avi graduated from UC Davis and Harvard Law School. He is on the Board of the Asian American Criminal Trial Lawyers' Association. Avi coaches a high school mock trial team that competes in the Constitutional Rights Foundation program.
You can follow @thesajidkhan and @avanindar on Twitter.
Please send comments and suggestions to firstname.lastname@example.org. You can also follow us on twitter @aiderandabettor. Our website is https://medium.com/@aiderandabettor
On this episode of the pod, we talk all about Proposition 25 and what pretrial justice would look like in a Prop. 25 world. To do this, we get together with Carlie Ware (@carlieware11) and Carson White. Carlie and Carson specialize in pretrial release advocacy and pre-arraignment representation.
Omniboi composed the intro and outro for this pod.
Send us your thoughts on Prop. 25 (@thesajidkhan @avanindar @aiderandabettor)
Racial Justice Act with Ash Kalra
In this episode, Sajid and guest host Sarah Ruby (fellow pd out of San Jose) interview Assemblymember Ash Kalra (twitter @ash_kalra) about the Racial Justice Act (https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billTextClient.xhtml?bill_id=201920200AB2542) https://sanjosespotlight.com/san-jose-legislators-racial-justice-act-passes-senate-committee/
The bill passed the legislature and is on Governor Newsom's desk. To support the AB 2542, write the governor, call in, or post to social media #2542 #confrontracism
The intro and outro are by Omniboi. The break remix of this is america is also by Omniboi.
PD Eliza Orlins Running For Manhattan DA
Sajid and Avi meet with Eliza Orlins. Eliza has been a public defender in New York for around 10 years. She decided to run for District Attorney of Manhattan. They talk about what called her to the work and her decision to run for DA. Learn more about Eliza’s work and campaign here: https://twitter.com/elizaorlins
Omniboi composed and performed the intro, outro, and break remix.
Double Crossover: Pod With SF DA Boudin And Rachel Marshall from Chasing Justice
“For the People”: Finding the Humanity in Our Criminal Legal System with Sajid Khan and Avi Singh: In this crossover episode with the cohosts of Aider and Abettor podcast, Bay Area public defenders Avi Singh and Sajid Khan join DA Boudin and Rachel to examine what it means when a prosecutor represents “the people.” The group asks who are the people represented by the system at each stage and is the system really serving them? How can the system better recognize the humanity of defendants and victims? They also explore whether lawyers working in the system should find more collaboration in an adversarial system. The discussion walks through various stages of the criminal legal system (from charging, bail, plea bargains, trials, through sentencing) and reimagines all the ways in which the system should honor the humanity of the people touched by it but too often denies it. Finally, Avi leads DA Boudin, Rachel and Sajid in a “lightning round” of questions submitted by Aider and Abettor fans.
It's a Crossover
Sajid joined Another Not Guilty Pod (David Moore and Nikhil Ramnaney) for a two-part interview. Part 1 is about what happened when Sajid wrote a blog post calling for civil rights protesters to look at what District Attorneys have done to contribute to the system of mass incarceration and abusive police practices. Part 2 will come out next week. Sajid will debrief on a homicide trial with David and Nikhil. You can check out and support their excellent work here: https://www.anothernotguiltypod.com/
We are grateful to ANG for the collab.
Here is the post (as published in San Jose Inside): https://www.sanjoseinside.com/opinion/op-ed-be-mad-at-police-but-also-at-the-prosecutors-who-protect-and-enable-their-abuses/
Here is an op-ed by Sajid in the Mercury News calling on implementation of reforms now: https://www.mercurynews.com/2020/06/16/opinion-da-shouldnt-wait-to-implement-reforms/
Here is coverage of the situation in San Jose Inside, including a letter from 650 public defenders around the nation speaking out against practices designed to chill criminal reform speech: https://www.sanjoseinside.com/opinion/letter-650-public-defenders-stand-behind-sajid-khan/
Here is a letter issued by CAIR: https://ca.cair.com/sfba/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2020/06/DA-Rosen-Letter-06.23.20.pdf
Here is a story in the San Jose Mercury News about Jeff Rosen's decision to withdraw his complaint in response to the backlash: https://www.mercurynews.com/2020/06/23/district-attorney-backs-off-whistleblower-claim-against-line-level-public-defender/
Here is a post Sajid wrote everything went down about what we need to do going forward: https://www.publicdefenders.us/blog_home.asp?Display=854
COVID Court Content Care
COVID: Courts, Content, Care
Avi and Sajid talk about what defense practice looks like during the COVID-19 pandemic, including video arraignments in mostly empty courthouses. They also talk about the content that they have enjoyed consuming and self-care practices while sheltering in place.
Lee Rosevere (@leeroservere) composed and performed the intro and outro of the pod. Omniboi (@omniboi) composed and performed the music during the breaks.
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My husband and I are in the public defender world. We love your podcast & the issues you discuss. Keep fighting the good fight!
Aspiring public defender learning from your podcast
I listen to your podcast on my way to work. I work for a public defenders office. I am a recent law school graduate waiting for bar results. Prior to law school I worked for three years at a public defenders office and dedicated all of my law school years to doing the same. Your pod cast rings so many truths. I love listening to you both on my bart commute and during my walk to the court house and/or office.
Thank you for the topics you choose and for inspiring those of us that are coming after you. I am eager to learn and I am learning how to one day become a great public defender because of the both of you.
Much Needed Podcast
I love this podcast! The program provides good coverage and commentary on current topics relating to criminal justice and public defense work. As an aspiring PD in California, it is so incredible to hear the stories and insight the main hosts have on important issues and client-centered representation. I also find they use their platform so well by including a diverse array of guests including women/female PD's, POC, non-lawyers working for social change, very experienced PD's, etc. Highly recommend!