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For so many modern, driven women, life is about being more than one thing. We’re multidimensional—and so are our conversations. We carry multiple identities; we can be both mother and artist; both attorney and entrepreneur. Both clinician and CEO. Both humble and proud. Life for women like us is about both. About…all of the above. It’s about the “and”...

Presenting, ‘And She Spoke, our brand new show that peels back the different layers of entrepreneurship so we can dive into the messy, the chaotic, and the heartfelt stories and lessons that define the lives of the entrepreneurs we know.

You’ll hear from successful female entrepreneurs about how they’ve grown their businesses, how current events have affected, the role money, mindset, and philosophy play in shaping the kind of business you run.

Think of And She Spoke as an inner circle of successful women in business having honest conversations about how they got there, the road bumps in the way, and their big plans for the future.

We’re setting aside the tactics, and we’re stepping into our truth.

We hope you’ll join us.

And She Spoke: Making Money, Mastering Your Mindset, and Doing Meaningful Work Jennifer Barcelos and Sandy Connery

    • Business
    • 4.9 • 45 Ratings

For so many modern, driven women, life is about being more than one thing. We’re multidimensional—and so are our conversations. We carry multiple identities; we can be both mother and artist; both attorney and entrepreneur. Both clinician and CEO. Both humble and proud. Life for women like us is about both. About…all of the above. It’s about the “and”...

Presenting, ‘And She Spoke, our brand new show that peels back the different layers of entrepreneurship so we can dive into the messy, the chaotic, and the heartfelt stories and lessons that define the lives of the entrepreneurs we know.

You’ll hear from successful female entrepreneurs about how they’ve grown their businesses, how current events have affected, the role money, mindset, and philosophy play in shaping the kind of business you run.

Think of And She Spoke as an inner circle of successful women in business having honest conversations about how they got there, the road bumps in the way, and their big plans for the future.

We’re setting aside the tactics, and we’re stepping into our truth.

We hope you’ll join us.

    56 Lessons We’ve Learned from DudeBro™ Marketers, Startup-DudeBros™, and Assorted PowerfulMen™

    56 Lessons We’ve Learned from DudeBro™ Marketers, Startup-DudeBros™, and Assorted PowerfulMen™

    Since starting our company, we’ve had some really interesting conversations about the vast difference between how men and women do things in the business space. Most female business owners we know (including ourselves), for example, actively work on their money mindset, struggle to trust their decisions, and have perfectionist tendencies…
    …While the startup DudebrosTM of the world sail through business (and life) like it was made for them.
    This obvious discrepancy arises from the way women have been socialized for generations. We’ve been trained to be hesitant about our offerings because the idea of pleasing everyone else, constantly asking for permission, and doubting our own skills and abilities has been reinforced throughout our lives. It’s no mystery that these blocks show up in our businesses too. And it shows in how little female-owned businesses make each year despite their abundance.
    Our male counterparts are quite the opposite in their behavior, and after interacting with so many of them as well as paying close attention to business personalities in the media, we’ve come up with a list of “lessons” that we’ve picked up over the years. Some of these insights are extremely liberating, effective, and empowering. And it would actually do us a fair amount of good to be able to inculcate them in how we operate our businesses.
    But for the ones we don’t agree with, well, a little bit of humor never hurt anyone.
    Here’s what you can expect from this episode:

    Why most women choose people-pleasing over doing what they really want
    The importance of taking imperfect action

    How women are socialized to believe that their approach is the wrong approach

     Healthy humility vs. blind confidence

    Believing in the value of your work and how that translates to the clients who need your services

    Choosing yourself instead of asking for permission 
    The avenues available for learning in today’s world
    We really enjoyed recording this one because it was a healthy dose of fun along with some truths that we deal with every day as female business owners. If you struggle with feeling confident about your actions and offerings (or are just in the mood for a laugh), this is the perfect episode for you to cozy up and tune in to! 
    And once you’re done listening, don’t forget to connect with us on Instagram (@heymarvelous) and share your thoughts!
    This Week’s Joy:
    Sandy is absolutely obsessed with her giant new Alocasia macrorrhiza (Giant Taro) plant and its massive leaves! It brings a lot of joy and positivity to her space, and it’s the first thing she checks on when she enters her condo. 
    This Week’s Hustle:
    Our Visibility Crash Course is 8+ years of our online marketing lessons condensed into a 5-day program that will help you amplify your voice as an online creator, show up more authentically in your business, and communicate effectively with the clients who need you. Learn more here!
    RESOURCES:

    Coursera
    Hey Marvelous

    Visibility Crash Course 
    This podcast is brought to you by the Marvelous online teaching platform.
    Marvelous is an easy-to-use platform that helps you build and sell your own courses, memberships, and live-streamed programs. Go from idea to open for business in just minutes. If you're looking for a simple, streamlined way to build and grow an online business. You can learn more at Marvelous.

    • 40 min
    The Value of a Wife – Part II

    The Value of a Wife – Part II

    You know the feeling when you come home, and it’s like you just clocked into your second job?

    So many women feel the crushing weight of taking care of everything at home without asking for help from their partners or getting outside assistance. 

    Why? 

    Because that help is associated with guilt.

    And because they find it difficult to delegate or leave space for other members of the home to contribute, they cultivate a constant feeling of resentment and irritability towards the unpaid domestic and emotional labor that they’re putting in.

    But the truth is that these expectations are self-imposed. 

    And they’re yet another direct and unfair consequence of internalized patriarchy.

    Today, we’re revisiting a conversation that we began about three years ago when we published episode 126: The Value Of A Wife. And in this one, we discuss Jeni’s recent step back from trying to take care of her home alone. We get into how opening a dialogue about the situation with her loved ones has made a difference and what she did when she realized that she just couldn’t fold everybody’s socks anymore. 

    Here’s what you can expect from this one:

    An honest recap of Jenni’s thought process when she decided that something needed to change
    Why asking for help feels so wrong (and why we need to stop thinking that way)
    How treating your home like a second workplace can affect your mental health
    Why + how we internalize patriarchal expectations

    The domestic labor of decision making

    The importance of being intentional with your time, energy, and money


    If these feelings resonate with you, we hope that this episode helps you understand that they’re stemming from something large and systemic. You are not alone in your responsibilities, and the people who love you will be more than willing to share the load so that you can take the break you deserve. 

    And if you enjoyed this episode, find us on Instagram (@heymarvelous) so that we can continue the conversation!
    This Week’s Joy
    Jeni has her eyes glued to shop-tend.com, an online store that sells beautiful vintage nightgowns (albeit all currently sold out) that inspire the free wandering spirit in her.


    RESOURCES:

    Drop The Ball by Tiffany Dufu
    shop-tend.com
    Visibility Week – Visibility Crash Course

    • 27 min
    Sofia Garcia and the World of Generative Art

    Sofia Garcia and the World of Generative Art

    Web3 has revolutionized the digital art space. But it’s also a difficult concept to master, especially with all the misinformation floating around. We’re giving you the best possible introduction to this world by roping in an expert who can be a safe, reliable, and knowledgeable guide – Sofia Garcia! Sofia is a generative art dealer, art curator, and the founder of ARTXCODE and the nonprofit, CodeArt. Her journey from her first computer class in Miami to her first NFT art show is fascinating. And what began with curiosity and a step in the right direction has evolved into an exciting career in digital art curation. Sofia is amazing at simplifying the concept of generative art and breaking it down to help people understand how the gears turn.

    • 44 min
    What Creators Need to Know About Web3 and Crypto

    What Creators Need to Know About Web3 and Crypto

    Web3 is upon us. And if you struggle to understand it, you aren’t alone. In addition to being an extremely male-dominated space, it’s also stuffed to the brim with jargon, all sorts of things we never learned in school, and a heckuva lot of uncertainty. (And what’s up with the cryptobros and apes, really?) In this episode, we’re defining Web3, cryptocurrency, and why we as creators and business owners need to learn more about this industry.

    • 37 min
    Alexa Miller and the Merging of Art and Science

    Alexa Miller and the Merging of Art and Science

    Today’s guest, Alexa Miller, has one of the most interesting, thought-provoking, fascinating jobs we’ve ever heard of. All our lives, we’ve thought of art and medicine as two completely different pillars – one encourages us to think subjectively while the other is more objective and rational. In today’s episode, she’ll be sharing her knowledge so YOU can improve your own work with the human body through art.

    • 32 min
    Peloton, Promises, and People Pleasing

    Peloton, Promises, and People Pleasing

    It’s easy to keep your clients happy when you're starting out and your audience is small. However, as your business grows, it gets trickier. No matter what you do, there are going to be clients who don’t agree with you. And sometimes, they won’t just be trolls on the internet. They’ll be long-term, loyal, paying clients who decide to stop supporting you the minute you make a decision that doesn’t align with their beliefs. How do you deal with long-term clients turning their back on you? How do you respond when constructive feedback crosses over to negativity? And why does this happen in the first place? Those are just some of the questions we’re looking to answer in today’s episode.

    • 32 min

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45 Ratings

Storytelling Secrets ,

And She Spoke Speaks to Me!

Jeni and Sandy are dishing up some honest conversations about what holds entrepreneurs back from growing their businesses. It’s totally relatable and will help guide you through the entrepreneurial ups and downs with more grace. Must listen!

JaneneTPL ,

In a word…Super!

Love this show, great content, hosts and guests. Just listened to the interview with Claire Wasserman and found myself saying “Amen!”. It was so insightful. I look forward to listening to more episode and have put this on my list of shows to listen to on a weekly basis. I can’t wait to listen to more of “and She Said”.

DraAI ,

Pastel Pink Underbelly

OMG omg omg. I came across your podcast on a random search (don’t even remember what for) and picked one to listen to that just sounded interesting and.. omg. It is so rare for me to come across anyone who says things so similar to the ideas and opinions swirling in my head since literally forever and evolving over the decades. I live in a deep red area of a reddish state, somewhere I swore I’d never live (with mom) unless I had to, and it’s only confirmed everything I ever thought about avoiding conservative ‘murka. I’m tired of being told I’m “wrong” or to grow up or that “life isn’t fair, get over it” by people who are so ingrained and indoctrinated and enmeshed in capitalism that they can’t see beyond what they’re told to believe - and feeling like I’m alone. What I always find interesting (and LOVED about this episode) is when people put names to things I *KNOW* are real, but am constantly told are not. Like how so many female. business course entrepreneurs look and act exactly the same, like “downloading oppression”, like the issues between business and capitalism “extracting from other people” “no concern from outcome” “robber baron” (that one I use all the time, just to get blank stares from people around me). The whole thing disgusts me and is so contrary to what I know is right and better, yet the constant input I get is that I’ll never be “successful” unless I x, y, z. Thank you! Will try to listen to some more episodes, but for this one...wow. Sharing everywhere.

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