And That's That On That

Haley Chapman, Gavyn Bailey

Best friends Haley Chapman and Gavyn Bailey host And That’s That On That. The hosts bring a wealth of knowledge and humor to each episode, featuring insightful interviews with accomplished artists and creators across various sectors of the industry such as Katie Gavin (MUNA), Zach Charles (A R I Z O N A), ELIO, Maddie Grace Jepson, Aidan Bissett, Gatlin and many others, as well as funny, real, and honest stories about living out their twenties. Every week brings something new. If you're a fan of chaotic conversation, this one is for you. Tune in Mondays anywhere you stream podcasts.

  1. 12/30/2025

    S3/E12: And That's On A New Year & A New Kidney

    ✨Don't forget to subscribe, rate this podcast & hit the notification bell so you get alerts when new episodes drop! Connect with us on ⁠⁠Instagram⁠ & ⁠⁠⁠TikTok⁠⁠ while you're at it 🫶🏻✨ This week, Haley and Gavyn sit down for their final episode before their “brief” medical leave post–kidney transplant hiatus. They talk about their ins and outs for 2026 — but, as usual, it turns into so much more. The two reflect on the closing of a chaotic "nine year," the promise of new beginnings ahead, and how numerology, astrology, and Saturn returns somehow feel a little too accurate this time around. Gavyn opens up about his health journey, kidney failure, and the surreal timing of his transplant, while Haley shares lessons learned from job loss, discomfort, and trusting that the universe really does clear what no longer fits. It’s a send-off episode full of closure, hope, laughter, and honesty — a pause before the rebuild, and a reminder that even when you don’t know what’s next, you’re exactly where you’re supposed to be. 👩🏼👨🏻 The Hosts: ⁠@gavynbailey⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠ ⁠@haleschaps⁠⁠⁠ ⁠ ⁠⁠⁠ Credits:  Audio Editing/Engineering by Gavyn Bailey  Produced by Gavyn Bailey and Haley Chapman Music: “Golden Hour” – Ariel Shalom “Good Vibe” – Alex MakeMusic And That's That On That contains music licensed from Artlist.io for use in this podcast. All rights reserved to the original artists and copyright holders.

    58 min
  2. 12/02/2025

    S3/E9: And That's On Cancelling Labubus w/ Jared Kaner

    ✨Don't forget to subscribe, rate this podcast & hit the notification bell so you get alerts when new episodes drop! Connect with us on ⁠⁠Instagram⁠ & ⁠⁠⁠TikTok⁠⁠ while you're at it 🫶🏻✨ This week, Haley and Gavyn sit down with artist and songwriter manager, A&R, founder of The Arena Music, and—once upon a time—Gavyn’s boss, Jared Kaner. They get into the wild reality of the music business and how Jared went from selling houses to working behind the scenes on global hits for artists like 5 Seconds of Summer, David Guetta, Galantis, Alan Walker, and more. If you’re an aspiring artist, songwriter, producer, or future manager, this episode is basically a free masterclass. Jared breaks down what it really takes to build a career in today’s industry, sharing the advice he wishes he had starting out. And because we can’t resist, we also drag Jared through our favorite recurring segments. Spoiler: he’s officially over Labubus. Connect with Jared! @jaredkaner / @thearenamusic 👩🏼👨🏻 The Hosts: ⁠@gavynbailey⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠ ⁠@haleschaps⁠⁠⁠ ⁠ ⁠⁠⁠ Credits:  Audio Editing/Engineering by Gavyn Bailey Produced by Gavyn Bailey and Haley Chapman Music: “Golden Hour” – Ariel Shalom “Good Vibe” – Alex MakeMusic And That's That On That contains music licensed from Artlist.io for use in this podcast. All rights reserved to the original artists and copyright holders.

    1h 22m
  3. 11/24/2025

    S3/E8: And That's On Giving Thanks

    ✨Don't forget to subscribe, rate this podcast & hit the notification bell so you get alerts when new episodes drop!✨ Happy Holidays and Happy Thanksgiving to our beautiful listeners! This week, Haley and Gavyn gather around the proverbial Thanksgiving table for a cozy holiday episode. They take a trip down memory lane and revisit old episodes in a rebranded “Into It and Over It,” now appropriately titled “It’s Giving Thanks… or No Thanks.” They dive into everything they’re genuinely grateful for this year, along with the things that are… respectfully not invited to the feast. Between the gratitude, they fall right back into their regularly scheduled yap sesh: Haley shares a backhanded “compliment” she received while getting Botox and a run-in with a heroic Postmates driver. Meanwhile, Gavyn fights for that title when he reveals his one-night-only career moment as a Postmates driver himself. It’s nostalgic, it’s chaotic, it’s heartfelt...exactly the kind of mess you want in your ears this Thanksgiving. 🧡 Happy Thanksgiving from our family to yours! xoxo,Gavyn & Haley Connect with us: ⁠Instagram⁠ & ⁠TikTok⁠  👩🏼👨🏻 The Hosts: @gavynbailey⁠⁠⁠ ⁠ @haleschaps⁠⁠ ⁠ ⁠ Credits:  Audio Editing/Engineering by Gavyn Bailey  Produced by Gavyn Bailey and Haley Chapman Music: BalloonPlanet - "Once Upon a Christmas Groove" Rex Banner - "Silent Night" And That's That On That contains music licensed from Artlist.io for use in this podcast. All rights reserved to the original artists and copyright holders.

    43 min
  4. S3/E7: And That’s On Decoding Your Dreams w/ Debbii Dawson

    11/17/2025

    S3/E7: And That’s On Decoding Your Dreams w/ Debbii Dawson

    ✨Don't forget to subscribe, rate this podcast & hit the notification bell so you get alerts when new episodes drop! Connect with us on ⁠Instagram⁠ & ⁠TikTok⁠ while you're at it 🫶🏻✨ Breaking news! Gavyn finally left his apartment which means he and Haley are back in the same room for the first time in a year. Huge! They’re joined by the incredible artist/songwriter Debbii Dawson. They talk growing up in a musical family, her journey from AGT to today, building confidence onstage, and navigating the internet as an artist. This one is full of good tea. 🎶 Listen / Connect with Debbii: Spotify Apple Music Instagram TikTok 👩🏼👨🏻 The Hosts: @gavynbailey⁠⁠⁠ ⁠ @haleschaps⁠⁠ ⁠ ⁠ Credits:  Audio Editing/Engineering by Gavyn Bailey  Produced by Gavyn Bailey and Haley Chapman Music: “Golden Hour” – Ariel Shalom “Good Vibe” – Alex MakeMusic And That's That On That contains music licensed from Artlist.io for use in this podcast. All rights reserved to the original artists and copyright holders. Chapters: 00:00 Intro 13:40 Welcome Debbii Dawson 13:55 Pit & Peak 21:40 America’s Got Talent 23:57 Musical Upbringings and Influences 28:36 Debbii’s New Era 31:00 "I Want You” 32:12 Reality of the Music Industry 34:21 Achieving Confidence  39:40 Touring 42:56 Into It & Over It  50:00 Decoding Dreams & Hallucinations  1:00:26 Unpopular Opinions  1:02:36 Final Question and Closing

    1h 4m
5
out of 5
9 Ratings

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Best friends Haley Chapman and Gavyn Bailey host And That’s That On That. The hosts bring a wealth of knowledge and humor to each episode, featuring insightful interviews with accomplished artists and creators across various sectors of the industry such as Katie Gavin (MUNA), Zach Charles (A R I Z O N A), ELIO, Maddie Grace Jepson, Aidan Bissett, Gatlin and many others, as well as funny, real, and honest stories about living out their twenties. Every week brings something new. If you're a fan of chaotic conversation, this one is for you. Tune in Mondays anywhere you stream podcasts.