The Animal Behavior Management Alliance (ABMA) strives to spread knowledge throughout the animal care field to help enhance animal care through operant conditioning. Each episode we will discuss a topic in the world of animal care and break down the science of behavior change. To achieve this, the podcast’s host, Shane Gorbett, will interview fellow trainers and experts from across the world to discuss all things training, behavior, enrichment, welfare, and much more! This podcast will be a great resource for all trainers. Let's talk some training!
37: The Behaviors of Allyship with Meghan Holst, co-founder of MIAZS (Minorities in Aquarium and Zoo Science)
This episode Meghan Holst, one of the co-founders of MIAZS (Minorities in Aquarium and Zoo Science), adds another addition to "The Behaviors of..." series by discussing the behaviors of allyship and giving insight in to MIAZS as an organization. Meghan educates about what allyship is and ways in which everyone can be involved in being an ally. Meghan also talks about how to professionally and effectively bring up social justice issues in a workplace and why human behavior is just as important as animal behavior. "The healthier and supported humans are, the healthier and supported the animals are." Stay tuned for Meghan's "Training Tale" about conditioning an electrical signal bridge for sharks. For questions or suggestions about the podcast email firstname.lastname@example.org and to reach Meghan email email@example.com. Also, check out all of the free, informational resources offered by MIAZS on their website. https://www.miazs.org Let's talk some training!
3:35 Introduction to Meghan Holst
8:30 All about MIAZS (Minorities in Aquarium and Zoo Sciences)
17:30 How to get involved and support MIAZS
19:35 What is Allyship?
23:00 Behaviors of being an ally
28:15 How to bring up social justice issues in the workplace
33:20 Why is human behavior just as important as animal behavior
38:40 “Training Tales”
36: Introduction to Welfare Assessments with Sabrina Brando, AnimalConcepts
This episode special guest, Sabrina Brando, AnimalConcepts, continues the welfare discussion from episode 35 with a focus on introducing the topic of Welfare Assessments. Sabrina discusses a holistic approach to welfare and the necessity of observational, research-focused data as opposed to emotional thinking in welfare assessments. Sabrina also explains the difference between output-based and input-based welfare assessments. The episode ends with a conversation about constant welfare analysis and effective assessments models. Stay tuned for Sabrina's "Training Tale" about reinforcing a dolphin for saying "no" and not coming to her when asked. For questions or suggestions about the podcast email firstname.lastname@example.org and to reach Sabrina contact her on the AnimalConcepts website https://www.animalconcepts.eu/, LinkedIn, or the AnimalConcepts social channels. Also, check out all of the free, informational resources offered by AnimalConcepts on their website. Let's talk some training!
4:20 Welfare through observational, not emotional data
10:15 The way that we are feeling about something, doesn’t mean that the animal is feeling the same
13:45 A holistic approach to welfare
20:00 Outputs vs Inputs
25:00 Difference between output-based and input-based welfare assessment
30:40 The continued learning of welfare assessments
38:45 What makes for an effective welfare assessment model
41:35 “Training Tales”
35: Introduction to Welfare Science with Sabrina Brando, AnimalConcepts
This episode concludes Behavior Month 2023 with special guest, Sabrina Brando, AnimalConcepts, to discuss this week's theme for Behavior Month 2023: Welfare Around the World. This episode serves as the podcast's introduction to welfare with plans for future episodes to dive deeper into the science of welfare. Sabrina explains what welfare science is and the different lenses in which we can view animal welfare. Sabrina also discusses the Five Domains Model and the importance of affective states to animal welfare. Stay tuned for Sabrina's powerful "Training Tale" about a monkey taking his choices into his own hands. For questions or suggestions about the podcast email email@example.com and to reach Sabrina contact her on the AnimalConcepts website https://www.animalconcepts.eu/, LinkedIn, or the AnimalConcepts social channels. Also, check out all of the free, informational resources offered by AnimalConcepts on their website. Let's talk some training!
5:20 Introduction to Sabrina Brando
11:40 Definitions of welfare from AZA and EAZA
12:35 Welfare in a practical and applicable sense
18:00 Focusing on the individuals
23:15 The Five Domains of Welfare Science
38:30 What are affective states?
49:15 “Training Tales”
34: The Human-Animal Connection - Evaluating Our Relationships with Chris Jenkins, Marni Wood, and Justin Garner, The ABMA Board of Directors
This episode continues the learning of Behavior Month 2023 with special guests from The ABMA Board of Directors; Chris Jenkins, Marni Wood, and Justin Garner. The panel of guests discuss this week's theme for Behavior Month 2023: The Human-Animal Connection. The panel talks about the importance of having strong, trusting relationships with animals and tackles the questions: how do we evaluate our relationships with animals and what makes for a "good" or a "bad" relationship? The panel also offers advice on how to grow a relationship through changing our own actions. Stayed tuned for a "Training Tale" from podcast host, Shane, about how his relationship with a red river hog paid off during a unique situation. For questions or suggestions about the podcast email firstname.lastname@example.org and to reach any of our panel of guests you can email email@example.com, firstname.lastname@example.org, and email@example.com Let's talk some training!
4:35 Introduction to Chris Jenkins, Justin Garner, and Marni Wood
8:40 Human-Animal Relationships from an academic lens
10:25 Building human-animal relationships in a modern setting
16:25 What defines/how do you measure a “good” relationship
20:15 What would cause you to define a relationship as “bad”
27:35 When and when not to take away from your trust account
31:40 If the relationship needs improved, how do we strengthen it
35:25 What can we, the human learner, change in our behavior
41:15 Reading animal body language
43:50 Advice for building a stronger, better relationship
51:00 The future role of human-animal relationships in welfare science
52:50 “Training Tales”
33: The Evolution of Enrichment with Clarie Santiago & Hunter Peck, Natural Encounters, Inc.
This episode continues the learning of Behavior Month 2023 with special guests Clarie Santiago and Hunter Peck from Natural Encounters, Inc. who discuss this week's theme for Behavior Month 2023: The Evolution of Enrichment. This is also an exciting episode for the fact that this was a live, in-person recording at the NEI Ranch because NEI graciously hosted The ABMA's 2023 midyear meeting! In this episode our guests discuss the evolution of enrichment, both on a holistic level and within a specific team or facility. Clarie and Hunter also contemplate the shift of enrichment towards behavior-based and how training, enrichment, and behavior are not mutually exclusive, but in fact all related. Stayed tuned for two "Training Tales" this episode! Clarie talks about a daring flight from a black kite and Hunter explains how a pigeon named Blade learned to fly. For questions or suggestions about the podcast email firstname.lastname@example.org and to reach Clarie and Hunter you can message them on Facebook. Let's talk some training!
8:15 Introduction to Clarie Santiago and Hunter Peck
14:15 The evolution of enrichment
16:20 The evolution of enrichment on a team/in a facility
21:50 Behavior, enrichment, and training - Not mutually exclusive topics
29:10 Shifting the focus towards behavior and away from interactions
31:25 Enrichment as a tool to decrease “undesirable” behaviors
38:05 Can something that the animal “doesn’t like” still be considered successful enrichment?
41:50 Focusing on enrichment for a species as a whole and at an individual level
45:30 Hunter and Clarie’s enrichment opportunities that they are excited to implement in the future
47:15 “Training Tales”
32: Cooperative Care - Asking Animals to Participate with Wouter Stellaard, Behavior 360 & The Kuzo Group
This episode kicks off Behavior Month 2023 and we are joined once again by special guest, Wouter Stellaard from Behavior 360 and The Kuzo Group, to discuss this week's theme for Behavior Month 2023: Cooperative Care. Wouter discusses what it means for animals to participate in cooperative care and the element of empowering animals to participate and giving them the voice to say yes or no. Wouter also offers advice on times where behavior is needed in a timely manner. To wrap up the conversation, Wouter talks about the importance of cooperative care in a modern zoo and showing that in action to guests. Behavior bird brainiacs (that will make sense after you listen to this episode) will be excited for Wouter's "Training Tales" about a short-billed corella and a beautiful, boisterous black-breasted buzzard! For questions or suggestions about the podcast email email@example.com and to reach Wouter contact him on his website behavior360.com Let's talk some training!
2:15 Information about Behavior Month 2023
3:50 Introduction to Wouter Stellaard
11:05 What does Cooperative Care look like in practice?
13:55 Giving animals the ability to say yes or no
18:55 How can we tell if a behavior is truly voluntary? Is there anything that is truly voluntary?
24:55 What is the difference between an operant learning strategy and “distracted” feeding in terms of cooperative care?
31:20 When medical diagnostics/information are needed in a timely manner
36:50 The shift in moving away from the word “husbandry” and to “cooperative care”
40:00 Effectively communicating to the public about the role cooperative care plays in a modern zoo
44:40 How cooperative care can improve welfare
49:10 “Training Tales”
My new favorite!
I can’t get enough of this podcast! I work with people and their dogs so I DONT work w marine or zoo animals but this podcast has definitely upped my training game! Each episode has given me LOADS to think about and ways to be a better coach to the people and dogs I work with!