Art & Self with Cindy Ingram of Art Class Curator Cindy Ingram

Last week, I had a fascinating conversation with Madalyn Gregory discussing Gustav Klimt’s Death and Life. I left that conversation so excited, only to discover that we weren’t done yet. Even after going off the air, we kept talking about it and realized we missed a lot of important things. So we decided to do a follow-up conversation to share even more of our insights with you!
4:55​ - Awareness of a gender issue from last week and what it says about our conditioning
13:40 - Impact of gender and gender limitations as human-made constructs
16:37 - Diverse racial representation (or lack thereof) in art
24:14 - Importance of authenticity of different perspectives shown in artwork
28:23 - How the patterns in Death and Life resemble quilt work
31:57 - Ruminating over what the circles in Death’s robes symbolize
36:23 - The negative space between Death and Life more effective as black to represent the unknown
Transcript at https://artclasscurator.com/61-gustav-klimt/

Today, I’m excited to try a brand new type of episode where I have art conversations with other people and talk about favorite pieces of art, personal connections to art, and what drew us to the world of art. For my first guest, I’ve brought on one of my best friends for the last 10+ years, organizer for all things at Art Class Curator and brilliant writer Madalyn Gregory. In this episode, she’s chosen to discuss Death and Life by Gustav Klimt, an artwork that stopped her in her tracks when she saw it in person in Vienna during one of our curator trips.
3:09​ – What it felt like for Madalyn seeing the artwork for the first time
6:13 – Describing what Gustav Klimt’s Death and Life looks like
9:34 – The many observations we had while interpreting Death and Life
15:04 – Possible meanings and symbolism behind the skin tone used
24:20 – The loneliness and personality of Death
30:44 – An important lesson for art teachers to realize about their students
32:45 – Why we connected with Death and Life and the messages imparted to us
Transcript at https://artclasscurator.com/60-death-and-life/

Today’s a different kind of episode. I had an idea recently and wanted to experiment with something new...
I went back to the Dallas Museum of Art to revisit Nauline Pierre’s exhibit. Why? I want to look at the same artwork again and again to see what new lessons I get out of it and how the artwork grows and changes as I grow and change.
And I want you along for the ride to see what that looks like in practice. I’m not just recalling my experience but also giving you a true taste of it in the immediate aftermath. So in this episode, I’ve captured my fresh thoughts and perspectives on Pierre’s exhibit, from the comfort of my car outside the museum. 
5:59 - Describing the next painting in the story of the falling woman, Power Within
9:14 - Why one particular angel in this artwork resonated with me so much
12:28 - Describing Pierre’s Hereafter, Ye Shall Be Changed and the storyline I see within it
14:49 - How this painting reflects my own life right now
19:01 - New insights gained, a couple of days later
23:52 - Why I wanted to do an episode like this and create the Art Connection Circle
27:01 - The three things necessary to treat something like art as a sacred act
Transcript at https://artclasscurator.com/94-how-art-reflects-my-life/

Don’t be alarmed, Art Class Curator followers! The art lessons, blog posts, and other goodies are still here for your enjoyment. But the podcast has undergone a re-branding and slight shift in focus. 
My own personal journey over the last few years has led me to this moment. So in this episode, I explain why I’ve changed things and what you can expect from now on. Welcome to the You Need Art podcast!
1:13​ - How the pandemic inspired a call for deeper connection for me
5:23 - What I’ve recently realized about one of my main superpowers
7:08 - Why I’ve decided to re-brand the podcast a bit and re-think a question I’ve always asked
13:13 - The goal of this newly rebranded podcast for you, the listener
15:57 - When I saw my life reflected in a work of art discussed on the show live
19:34 - The sculpture that showed me how personal connections don’t have to be huge moments
23:16 - People seeing themselves reflected in art in very different ways
26:40 - What you need to do to truly see what’s possible with personal connection through art
Transcript at https://artclasscurator.com/93-you-need-art/

Last week, Madalyn and I geeked out over Naudline Pierre’s art exhibit at the Dallas Museum of Art. It blew us away so much that we ended up talking for an hour and a half about our experience there. In part two of our discussion, we wrap up our thoughts on Lest You Fall and move on to Pierre’s Hold On, Hold Tight featuring more angels, nude figures, and clashing colors.
1:20​ - The different energy vibes given off by the angels in Lest You Fall
5:10 - Why the Bible quote similar to the artwork’s title triggers me
10:43 - Describing Pierre’s Hold On, Hold Tight oil on canvas painting
14:03 - What the fetal position of the main character could symbolize
18:42 - The personal reason behind why Madalyn feels drawn to this work of art
21:27 - Possible interpretations for the depiction of two angels who seem a bit removed from the action
26:22 - Why this exhibit made me want to go home and paint afterward
31:14 - Being expansive, multiple, contradictory, and living in the fullness of possibility
Mentioned in the Show:
Art Connection Circle
Transcript at https://artclasscurator.com/91-falling-for-naudline-pierres-art/

Madalyn’s back on the podcast to discuss a favorite subject of ours: art! This time we talk about a Naudline Pierre artwork exhibit we just happened upon in Dallas recently. Our conversation ran well past the hour mark, so I’ve broken it up into two parts. In this part one episode, we discuss Pierre’s Lest You Fall oil on canvas painting and all the feelings and imagery it evoked within us.
5:46​ - Madalyn tries to describe what she saw when walking into the exhibit
8:53 - How Pierre’s work reminds me of a Baroque painting
13:29 - Discussing Pierre’s Lest You Fall, featuring a falling nude person
18:41 - My back-and-forth feelings on the winged creatures in the artwork
22:21 - The ability to see your identity reflected in art mediums
26:06 - Possible duality in the bird’s actions in the painting
31:31 - Life, faith, and the universal experience that draws us to these images
41:32 - Reflecting on what the figure could be falling towards and how that translates to life
Mentioned in the Show:
More Wonder, Please podcast
Art Connection Circle
Transcript at https://artclasscurator.com/91-Falling-for-Naudline-Pierres-Evocative-Art