Pipe Dream | A B2B Marketing Podcast

B2B Better
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Pipe Dream profiles the B2B companies that have cracked the code on audience-driven marketing, building podcasts, newsletters, and content channels that don't just generate awareness, but actually drive qualified pipeline. Host Jason Bradwell, founder of B2B Better, sits down with the marketers and founders who've shifted away from traditional demand gen tactics to build their own audiences. Each episode breaks down the numbers, the conversion systems, and the tactical decisions that turn listeners into buyers. This isn't a show about marketing theory or best practices. It's about what's actually working right now: how much it costs, what converts, and why owned audience beats rented attention every single time. If you're tired of vanity metrics and want to understand how to build a content engine that drives real revenue, this is your show. New episodes... all the time. Learn more at http://www.b2b-better.com

  1. Why B2B Marketing Still Fails at Trust (And How to Fix It) | Joel Harrison — Founder & Director, B2B Marketing | Podcaster, Speaker & Advisor

    1D AGO

    Why B2B Marketing Still Fails at Trust (And How to Fix It) | Joel Harrison — Founder & Director, B2B Marketing | Podcaster, Speaker & Advisor

    We help B2B brands launch shows that turn their point of view into pipeline. If you're launching a podcast (or have one already) and are not sure how it can hit your bottom line, book a meeting with Jason: https://meetings-eu1.hubspot.com/jason-bradwell/youtube-meeting-link Most B2B marketers are drowning in content and starving for pipeline. Joel Harrison has spent 23 years building media empires in B2B – and he's finally putting his cards on the table. In this episode of Pipe Dream, Jason Bradwell sits down with Joel Harrison, founder of the B2B Marketing publication and host of the Trust and Influence in B2B podcast. Joel brings a rare perspective to owned media: he has built a media company from scratch, exited the operational role he created, and then rebuilt his personal brand through podcasting and thought leadership content. The result is a frank, practical conversation about what it actually takes for B2B organisations to communicate with authority in an AI-saturated world. Joel shares why he launched his podcast after abandoning plans for a book, how he has evolved from audio-only to a full content flywheel spanning YouTube, LinkedIn newsletter, and LinkedIn Live, and why trust – not technology – is the defining challenge for B2B marketers right now. He also makes a compelling case for humanisation as the antidote to AI-generated commodity content, arguing that brands which put real people and genuine points of view at the centre of their marketing will win long-term. The conversation turns candid when Joel addresses why marketing still struggles to earn a seat at the board table, and what it will take to change that dynamic. Key Takeaways ◼️ How to build a content flywheel from a single podcast – why launching with audio alone limits your reach and how adding video, newsletter, and live formats accelerates audience growth. ◼️ Why trust is the defining issue in B2B marketing right now – and how AI-generated content is making the problem worse, not better. ◼️ How to use AI as an enabler of thought leadership, not a replacement for it – the distinction between repurposing genuine perspectives and using AI as a crutch for a missing point of view. ◼️ Why B2B marketing still struggles to earn board-level credibility – and what marketers must do to speak the commercial language that CEOs and CFOs actually respond to. ◼️ How to hook your audience in the first 30 seconds – the simple structural shift Joel made after a year of podcasting that reduced early listener drop-off. ◼️ Why incremental improvements beat big production budgets – and why your point of view matters far more than your studio setup. Chapter Markers 00:00 Intro 02:15 Joel's journey: from founding B2B Marketing magazine to podcasting 07:40 Building a content flywheel across audio, video, and LinkedIn 13:05 The biggest lessons from year one of running a podcast 18:30 What "thinking like a media company" actually means in B2B 23:10 Why marketing still fails to prove its value to the board 28:45 How AI enables thought leadership without replacing it Relevant Links and Resources Joel Harrison on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/joel-harrison/Trust and Influence in B2B Podcast: [search on Spotify / Apple Podcasts]B2B Marketing (publication Joel founded): https://www.b2bmarketing.netTools mentioned by Joel: Riverside, Claude, ChatGPT, Fireflies What's Next If this episode got you thinking about how your organisation can build content that actually earns trust and drives pipeline, don't sit on it – take the first step and book a conversation with the B2B Better team today. Useful Links Connect with Jason Bradwell on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jasonbradwell/Listen to Pipe Dream on Podbean: https://www.podbean.com/podcast-detail/bac4p-2a0121/Pipe-Dream-PodcastLearn more about B2B Better: https://www.b2b-better.com

    24 min
  2. What Building a 13 Year-old Community Actually Looks Like

    1D AGO

    What Building a 13 Year-old Community Actually Looks Like

    We help B2B brands launch shows that turn their point of view into a pipeline. If you're launching a podcast (or have one already) and are not sure how it can hit your bottom line, book a meeting with Jason: https://meetings-eu1.hubspot.com/jason-bradwell/youtube-meeting-link Most people want a community. Mark Masters actually built one, and it took 13 years, one Thursday newsletter, and the quiet conviction that belonging matters more than scale. Mark Masters, founder of You Are the Media (YATM), joins Jason Bradwell on Pipe Dream to tell the full story of how a scrappy newsletter started in October 2013 grew into one of the most distinctive professional learning communities in the UK. Based on the south coast of England, YATM is a community built around a simple but powerful idea: all of us are better than one of us. Mark shares how YATM evolved from a zero-budget newsletter into a multi-layered owned media ecosystem spanning regular Lunch Club events across the country, an online membership space, and the flagship Creator Day conference in Poole. He is candid about the mistakes made along the way, the temptation to chase scale, and why the format of his events involves breaking world records with Post-it notes and chocolate oranges. This episode is essential listening for any B2B marketer or founder thinking about building a content-led community. Mark's journey is a masterclass in patience, consistency, and leading with genuine values rather than vanity metrics. Key Takeaways ◼️ How to build a community without a budget -- start with a consistent piece of content, as Mark did with a free weekly newsletter, and let trust compound over time before layering in events or membership. ◼️ Why jumping straight to a Slack group will destroy your community -- an empty playground repels new members; build audience first, then create spaces for them to gather. ◼️ How to define your community's values in a way that creates real association -- lead with emotive, human ideas like self-sufficiency, creativity or belonging rather than industry jargon or tactics. ◼️ Why scale is the wrong north star for community-led growth -- Mark deliberately caps Creator Day at 300 attendees so he can deliver a meaningful experience rather than a diluted one. ◼️ How to separate your personal brand from your community brand -- trust and format are the keys; document what works, then find community members who embody your values to carry it forward. ◼️ Why consistency over 13 years beats any campaign -- not one newsletter repurposed or copy-pasted since 2013; showing up reliably is the single biggest differentiator in owned media. Chapter Markers 00:00 Intro 02:00 What Is You Are the Media and Who Is It For? 04:00 How a 2013 Newsletter Became the Foundation for Everything 07:00 The Chain Effect: How Community Grows Slowly But Compounds 09:30 The Core Promise of YATM: Confidence and Friendship 12:30 The Owned Media Flywheel: Content, Community and Events 14:00 What to Do (and Avoid) When Building a B2B Community 19:00 Scaling YATM: Lunch Clubs, Creator Day and What Comes Next Relevant Links and Resources You Are the Media website: https://youarethemedia.co.uk Creator Day 2026 (Poole, May): https://youarethemedia.co.uk Mark Masters on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/markmasters/ YATM Newsletter: Sign up at youarethemedia.co.uk What's Next If this episode has you thinking differently about how you build audience and community around your brand, take the first step today. Subscribe to Mark's Thursday newsletter at youarethemedia.co.uk and see 13 years of consistency in action. Useful Links Connect with Jason Bradwell on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jasonbradwell/ Listen to Pipe Dream on Podbean: https://www.podbean.com/podcast-detai... Learn more about B2B Better: https://www.b2b-better.com

    25 min
  3. What B2B Marketers Get Wrong About Differentiation | Richard Dedor, Senior Client Strategist at Vericast

    3D AGO

    What B2B Marketers Get Wrong About Differentiation | Richard Dedor, Senior Client Strategist at Vericast

    This episode is brought to you by B2B Better. Richard cut CAC by 27% by ditching billboards and investing in owned content — podcasts, videos, and customer interviews that actually moved the needle. That's exactly the kind of content engine we help B2B service businesses build. If you want a podcast that drives pipeline, not just downloads, visit b2bbetter.com. If you think B2B buying is purely rational, this episode is your wake-up call. In this episode of Pipe Dream, host Jason Bradwell sits down with Richard Dedor, Senior Client Strategist at Vericast, to unpack what a decade of B2C financial services marketing can teach B2B marketers about differentiation, storytelling, and cutting through a commoditised market. Richard's core point is clear: stop overthinking your product and start understanding the emotion behind the buying decision. Every purchase — whether it's a checking account or a six-figure SaaS contract — starts with a pain point. The businesses that win are the ones that lean into that pain and make the buyer the hero. The cheeseburger analogy says it all. McDonald's, In-N-Out, Wendy's — they're all selling the same thing but winning different customers by knowing exactly who they're for. B2B is no different. You don't need a revolutionary product. You need a sharper story built around the right ingredients for the right target market. The conversation gets tactical on CAC reduction. Richard's team cut acquisition costs by 27% by reallocating budget away from vanity spend — billboards chief among them — and investing in owned content instead. Podcasts, videos, webinar series, and customer interviews that spoke directly to real pain points. A billboard reaches everyone and no one. A customer interview that mirrors exactly what a prospect is feeling reaches the right person at the right moment. For B2B marketers dealing with long sales cycles and buying committees, hold the macro message steady and pivot the micro-messaging for each stakeholder in the room. And when compliance is standing between you and a good idea, make them your second-best friend — walk them through the concept one friction point at a time and help them get themselves to yes. People buy with emotion. Even in B2B. Especially in B2B. That's what you should be tapping into. Chapter Markers 00:00 - Introduction: Richard Dedor and a decade in B2C financial services 02:00 - The cheeseburger analogy: differentiation in commoditised markets 04:00 - Growing brand awareness by 50% and bridging it to conversion 06:00 - In-market moments and rare switching windows in financial services 08:00 - What B2B marketers should steal from the consumer playbook 09:00 - Micro-messaging pivots within a stable macro message 10:00 - Cutting CAC by 27%: stop spending on billboards 11:00 - Investing in owned content: podcasts, videos, and customer interviews 13:00 - Testing, killing, and doubling down on what works 14:00 - Working in regulated environments: making compliance your ally 16:00 - How to present ideas to legal and compliance teams 18:00 - Walking compliance through friction points one step at a time 20:00 - The one thing B2B companies get wrong about differentiation 22:00 - People buy with emotion — even in B2B Useful Links Connect with Jason Bradwell on LinkedIn Connect with Richard Dedor on LinkedIn Visit Richard Dedor's website Read Richard's writing on HubSpot and Medium Explore B2B Better and the Pipe Dream Podcast

    24 min
  4. Your Thought Leadership Is Working. Now Prove It | Ross Breckenridge | Managing Director, Breckenridge (The Growth Agency) | HubSpot Solutions Partner | Revenue Operations Specialist

    4D AGO

    Your Thought Leadership Is Working. Now Prove It | Ross Breckenridge | Managing Director, Breckenridge (The Growth Agency) | HubSpot Solutions Partner | Revenue Operations Specialist

    This episode is brought to you by B2B Better. Ross helps businesses prove that their marketing is driving revenue — and that's exactly the problem we help B2B service businesses solve with video-first podcasts. We build content systems that don't just generate attention, they generate pipeline your sales team can actually point to. Visit b2bbetter.com to see how we do it differently. Your thought leadership campaign is running. People are watching, listening, and engaging — but when your CFO asks if it's actually driving revenue, you've got nothing to say. In this episode of Pipe Dream, host Jason Bradwell sits down with Ross Breckenridge, Managing Director of Breckenridge and HubSpot Platinum Partner, to tackle the attribution problem that almost every B2B marketing team has but nobody wants to admit. Ross's core point is clear: this isn't a marketing problem. It's a business problem. Until your marketing, sales, and customer success teams are operating from a single unified strategy and a single tech stack, you'll never get the visibility you need. The conversation starts where Ross always starts with clients: customer journey mapping. Before you touch an attribution model, you need to understand where each content asset sits in the buying process — lead gen, nurture, sales enablement, or renewals. Most companies skip this step and end up measuring the wrong things entirely. From there, Ross unpacks the dark funnel and explains why the HubSpot Campaigns tool is the home of the marketer's attribution reporting. Bundle your content assets into one campaign, track who was created as a new contact and who was simply influenced along the way, and map that all the way through to closed-won revenue — including renewals that happen two years after someone first engaged. But none of it works if sales is living in a different system. The connection between content and revenue only becomes visible when marketing, sales, and customer success are using the same tools and held to the same SLAs. One client found that leaving a lead for more than 48 hours dropped their conversation rate from 70% to 20%. That kind of clarity only exists when everyone is looking at the same data. If you're tired of defending your content budget with correlation and vibes, this episode gives you the framework to fix it for good. Chapter Markers 00:00 - Introduction: Ross Breckenridge and Breckenridge Agency 02:00 - HubSpot onboarding, integrations, and the RevOps focus 04:00 - Is attribution a tools problem, a strategy problem, or the wrong metrics? 05:00 - Customer journey mapping as the foundation of all attribution 06:00 - Picking one attribution model and staying consistent 08:00 - The dark funnel: what it is and how HubSpot brings it to light 10:00 - Content-sourced vs content-influenced pipeline: the key difference 11:00 - The HubSpot Campaigns tool as the marketer's attribution home 13:00 - Connecting content consumption to leads, deals, and closed revenue 15:00 - Why attribution is a business problem, not a marketing problem 16:00 - Building the business case to get sales and CS on the same page 17:00 - SLAs, shared accountability, and the 48-hour lead follow-up rule 19:00 - Working in silos vs being more than the sum of your parts 21:00 - AI, buyer research, and why being genuinely helpful never changes 23:00 - Where to find Ross and learn more about Breckenridge Useful Links Connect with Jason Bradwell on LinkedIn Connect with Ross Breckenridge on LinkedIn Visit Breckenridge — HubSpot Platinum Partner and RevOps specialists Email Ross directly at ross@breckenridgeagency.com Explore the HubSpot Campaigns tool for attribution reporting Explore B2B Better website and the Pipe Dream podcast

    23 min
  5. How One Founder Got 50 Customers in 60 Days Using LinkedIn Organic | Adam Holmgren, CEO and Co-Founder at Fibbler

    5D AGO

    How One Founder Got 50 Customers in 60 Days Using LinkedIn Organic | Adam Holmgren, CEO and Co-Founder at Fibbler

    We help B2B brands launch shows that turn their point of view into pipeline. If you're launching a podcast (or have one already) and are not sure how it can hit your bottom line, book a meeting with Jason: https://meetings-eu1.hubspot.com/jason-bradwell/youtube-meeting-link -- Adam Holmgren turned three years of consistent LinkedIn posting into a $700K ARR SaaS business—without cold outbound, without a sales team, and with 80% of growth coming from organic content amplified by thought leader ads. In this episode of Pipe Dream, Adam Holmgren, co-founder and CEO of Fibbler, breaks down exactly how he built an attribution platform for SMBs by first building an audience of 25,000 marketers. Before launching Fibbler in May 2024, Adam spent years developing his point of view on demand generation, paid advertising, and attribution whilst at GetAccept—publishing consistently, giving value, and never asking for anything in return. When he finally launched his product, his audience was ready. Within two months, he had 50 paying customers purely from his network. But Adam didn't stop there. He shares the pivot that changed everything: shifting from organic-only to investing 50% of revenue into thought leader ads, specifically targeting the US market where LinkedIn ad spend is highest. The result? 400-500 signups per month, with 80% directly attributed to organic content plus paid amplification. Adam also reveals his weekend content system, his four content pillars (paid ads, brand building, founder-led growth, and personal), and why he believes distribution and brand are now the only real moats in a world where AI makes product features commoditised. Key Takeaways How to validate demand before launching: Build an audience first by giving value for years without asking for anything—then when you finally ask, conversion rates skyrocket. Why thought leader ads outperform traditional LinkedIn ads: Organic posts that already resonate are "battle-tested"—amplifying them with paid reach to new audiences dramatically improves ROI compared to brand account ads with CTAs. How to structure a sustainable content system: Plan content on weekends around 3-4 clear content pillars, schedule posts for the week, then stay active in comments during weekdays instead of writing on the fly. Why founder-led brands win in crowded markets: With 250,000-300,000 martech solutions available, distribution and brand are the only defensible moats—features alone won't differentiate you. How to convince sceptical executives to invest in brand: Start small, prove early signals (engagement from ICP, content mentioned in sales calls), then scale once you demonstrate pipeline impact over 3-6 months. The perfect LinkedIn post formula: Strong hook that creates curiosity or promises value + tactical insight or lesson learnt + no product pitch (let people discover you organically). Relevant Links and Resources Connect with Adam Holmgren on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/adam-holmgren/Learn more about Fibbler: https://fibbler.co What's Next If you're building a B2B brand and struggling to justify investment in owned media, start by building one person's audience consistently for 90 days—then amplify what works. The compounding effect is real. Useful Links Connect with Jason Bradwell on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jasonbradwell/Listen to Pipe Dream on Podbean: https://www.podbean.com/podcast-detail/pipe-dreamLearn more about B2B Better: https://www.b2b-better.com

    25 min
  6. If You Can Do Everything You Are Nothing for Nobody | Jason Bradwell, Founder of B2B Better and Host of Pipe Dream Podcast

    FEB 20

    If You Can Do Everything You Are Nothing for Nobody | Jason Bradwell, Founder of B2B Better and Host of Pipe Dream Podcast

    This episode is brought to you by B2B Better. We turned down SaaS clients and e-commerce brands to become the only video-first podcast agency for service-based B2B businesses. Specificity is the strategy.  If you've ever said "we can do that" to every client who walks in, this episode is your wake-up call. Host Jason Bradwell breaks down why niching down is the fastest path to becoming the obvious choice, and why being a bit of everything for everyone means you're actually nothing for nobody. Jason's core point is clear: when he set out to build B2B Better, he committed to being specific on two levels - who they serve and what they do. Not just B2B, because B2B is a hemisphere. They went one layer deeper: service-based businesses. Consulting firms, agencies, system integrators, compliance specialists. Companies that sell expertise, not products. People, not software. Trust and relationships, not features and pricing. That's what lends itself to their service: video-first podcasts that turn your point of view into pipeline. Nothing else. The same principle applies to podcasts. When a client says they want to launch a show, Jason's first question is: what's your superpower? Here's the formula. "This is a podcast about X, and unlike other podcasts about X, only we do Y." Most B2B podcasts fail this test. They say "we're a podcast about technology" or "leadership" or "AI." So are thousands of others. There's no "and." There's no reason to choose you. Add the "and" and everything changes. One show in the B2B Better portfolio is Data and Biotech: "a podcast about data science, and unlike other data science podcasts, only we explore it through the lens of biotech manufacturing." Suddenly if you're a data scientist in biotech, there's only one show for you. That specificity drives 75% to 80% episode completion rates, nearly double the industry average because every listener is exactly the right person. The fear of niching down is real. Every founder worries about leaving money on the table. But saying yes to everyone dilutes your positioning, creates operational inefficiency, and kills pricing power. What actually happens when you niche properly: the funnel gets narrower at first, but the people who raise their hand are perfect fits. They convert faster, pay more, stay longer, and refer others in the same niche. Year one it feels limiting. Year three it feels like leverage. Year five it feels like a moat. The framework to choose your niche: look at your best clients, not biggest. Validate the economics. Test your thesis before announcing publicly. Then commit hard and communicate clearly—change the website, the LinkedIn, the pitch deck. Say who you serve and who you don't. Resonance over reach. Always. Chapter Markers 00:00 - The "we can do anything" agency problem 01:00 - Why B2B isn't a niche, it's a hemisphere 02:00 - Choosing service-based businesses as the core niche 03:00 - Selling expertise, not products: why podcasts fit perfectly 04:00 - Video-first podcasts and the full service offering 05:00 - The superpower formula for podcast positioning 06:00 - Data and Biotech: the power of the "and" 07:00 - 75 to 80% completion rates and what resonance looks like 08:00 - Deeply engaged beats loosely interested every time 09:00 - Addressing the fear of leaving money on the table 10:00 - How niching compounds: pricing, referrals, close rates 11:00 - Four-step framework to choose your niche 12:00 - Specialists compound, generalists reset to zero 13:00 - Resonance is a revenue metric, reach is vanity 14:00 - Direct, systematic, results-driven: the B2B Better approach 15:00 - Write your "and" statement this week Useful Links Connect with Jason Bradwell on LinkedIn Listen to Pipe Dream on Podbean Explore B2B Better website and the Pipe Dream podcast

    16 min
  7. Four Questions That Will Tell You If Your Podcast Is Dead | Jason Bradwell, Founder of B2B Better and Host of Pipe Dream Podcast

    FEB 19

    Four Questions That Will Tell You If Your Podcast Is Dead | Jason Bradwell, Founder of B2B Better and Host of Pipe Dream Podcast

    This episode is brought to you by B2B Better. Most owned media audits produce 50-page reports with vague recommendations and zero next steps. We give you four questions, 90 minutes, and a clear decision: kill, fix, or scale.  If your podcast has downloads but no pipeline, this episode shows you how to audit your entire owned media strategy in 90 minutes and walk away knowing what's broken and how to fix it. Host Jason Bradwell breaks down the Four R Framework — Reach, Resonance, Revenue, and Repeatability — plus a decision tree to kill, fix, or scale. Jason's core point is clear: most owned media audits are useless. They take weeks and produce reports filled with vanity metrics. Today you get four questions that reveal everything in 90 minutes. Reach is the least important. It can be bought. If you turn off ads tomorrow, what happens? That tells you whether you have real distribution or rented attention. Resonance is where it gets interesting. Jason would rather have 100 views at 85% consumption than 10,000 views at 20%. The 100 who watch the whole thing are deeply engaged. The 10,000 who clicked away were never going to buy. For video, 50% consumption is good, 70% is excellent. For podcasts, 50% is good, 75% is excellent. Revenue asks: is your strategy generating commercial results? The benchmark: 30 to 50% of closed deals should have at least one content touch. Content-influenced deals should close 20 to 30% faster. If attribution is weak, you have an activation problem, not a content problem. Repeatability determines if your strategy works long term. You should produce content four to six weeks in advance without overtime. If you're in hero mode with one person holding everything together, you need systems, not heroics. The decision tree is simple. High reach but low resonance? Fix the content. Low reach but high resonance? Scale distribution. Low everything? Kill it. High everything but low repeatability? Fix operations first. Chapter Markers 00:00 - Why most owned media audits are useless 01:00 - The Four R Framework and why reach matters least 02:00 - Resonance and consumption rate benchmarks 03:00 - 100 views at 85% beats 10,000 at 20% 04:00 - Revenue attribution and pipeline influence 05:00 - Direct vs influenced vs self-reported attribution 06:00 - Repeatability and sustainability benchmarks 07:00 - Hero mode vs documented processes 08:00 - The decision tree: kill, fix, or scale 09:00 - High reach but low resonance means fix content 10:00 - What to do on Monday morning based on your audit 11:00 - Fix activation by emailing sales directly 12:00 - Four questions, 90 minutes, one action 13:00 - Get the full audit template with benchmarks Useful Links Connect with Jason Bradwell on LinkedIn Listen to Pipe Dream on Podbean Explore ABM reporting in HubSpot for tracking accounts touched Explore B2B Better website and the Pipe Dream podcast

    13 min
  8. Why Personal Brands Beat Company Pages on LinkedIn | George Terry, Co-Founder of Winbox

    FEB 18

    Why Personal Brands Beat Company Pages on LinkedIn | George Terry, Co-Founder of Winbox

    George Terry built a LinkedIn ads agency by doing what he preaches: posting consistently, building a personal brand, and measuring ROI by channel. We help B2B companies build the same kind of owned media system.  If you run a service business and want to know what a LinkedIn-first pipeline actually looks like in practice, this episode is it. Host Jason Bradwell sits down with George Terry, Co-Founder of Winbox, a LinkedIn ads agency working with 50+ B2B brands, to unpack how they've built a system where personal brands drive more pipeline than any other channel. George's core point is clear: nobody goes on LinkedIn to hang out with brands. Everyone's there to hang out with people. Brands are boring. Personal profiles are the best distribution channel on LinkedIn right now, and the challenge is finding people in your company who are willing to get out there and back the business. Winbox segments pipeline into referrals, inbound, and events. Referrals close fastest but can't be your only channel. Events generate volume at the top of funnel but deals are smaller. Inbound from marketing, meaning people who sought them out because they trust the brand, generates the largest deal sizes by far. Why? Because buyers coming to you with trust come with bigger budgets. The move upmarket changed everything. When Winbox decided to stop working with small budgets and target companies spending £10k a month or more on LinkedIn ads, their market shrank dramatically. That forced a shift to an account-based approach: a defined list of 2,500 companies across UK and Europe, and everything; ads, content, targeting, focused exclusively on that list. The metric they obsess over is market saturation: reaching 50 to 80% of that list four to eight times a month. Hit that and you're influencing decision-making when buyers enter a cycle. Miss it and your marketing may as well not exist. The content system behind this is simpler than it sounds. George spends two hours a week on content creation, records voice notes on walks to capture ideas, and polishes them up on Monday mornings. Five days a week posting, a monthly video podcast, 40 LinkedIn posts, eight video shorts, four newsletters, a webinar, and a quarterly event. The machine behind it does the heavy lifting but the principle is the same for anyone starting out: done is better than perfect. Post the rubbish. Get the reps in. The five-year journey started with two likes. Chapter Markers 00:00 - Introduction: George Terry and Winbox  01:00 - From content business to LinkedIn ads agency 02:00 - How Winbox acquires clients today  03:00 - From personal networks to personal brands  05:00 - Pipeline breakdown: referrals, inbound, events  06:00 - Why inbound generates the largest deal sizes  08:00 - Multi-channel attribution and why black and white thinking fails  10:00 - Three or four channels done well beats eight done badly  11:00 - Starting over: invest earlier and move upmarket sooner  13:00 - Shifting to account-based marketing with a defined company list  14:00 - Market saturation: 50 to 80% reach, four to eight times monthly  15:00 - Cyclical buying patterns and summer brand-building  17:00 - Personal brands vs brand accounts on LinkedIn  18:00 - Why people buy agencies because of people, not logos  19:00 - Content mix: formats, frequency, and community engagement  20:00 - The weekly content system: two hours, voice notes, Monday polish  21:00 - Done is better than perfect: posting, reps, and consistency  26:00 - ICP clarity as the non-negotiable from day one Useful Links Connect with Jason Bradwell on LinkedIn Connect with George Terry on LinkedIn Visit Winbox Check out LinkedIn Ads Insider on YouTube, Apple Podcast, and iHeart Explore B2B Better website and the Pipe Dream podcast

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Pipe Dream profiles the B2B companies that have cracked the code on audience-driven marketing, building podcasts, newsletters, and content channels that don't just generate awareness, but actually drive qualified pipeline. Host Jason Bradwell, founder of B2B Better, sits down with the marketers and founders who've shifted away from traditional demand gen tactics to build their own audiences. Each episode breaks down the numbers, the conversion systems, and the tactical decisions that turn listeners into buyers. This isn't a show about marketing theory or best practices. It's about what's actually working right now: how much it costs, what converts, and why owned audience beats rented attention every single time. If you're tired of vanity metrics and want to understand how to build a content engine that drives real revenue, this is your show. New episodes... all the time. Learn more at http://www.b2b-better.com

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