162 episodes

The Bob 'n Joyce Talk HR 'n OD podcast, hosted by Bob Stapleton and Joyce Wilson-Sanford, is for Human Resources and Organizational Development change-makers committed to bold work in an era that calls for the skills, values and partnership of these two disciplines. Bob and Joyce are former HR and OD C-suite executives who share their successes, failures, and hacks. They believe that it's an exciting time for this work and give specifics around acquisitions, policy nightmares, and grand moments. This podcast is to support your work and to take a moment to step away from the daily chaos. Come on in, grab a snack, and welcome!

Bob 'n Joyce Talk HR 'n OD Bob Stapleton and Joyce Wilson-Sanford

    • Business
    • 5.0 • 10 Ratings

The Bob 'n Joyce Talk HR 'n OD podcast, hosted by Bob Stapleton and Joyce Wilson-Sanford, is for Human Resources and Organizational Development change-makers committed to bold work in an era that calls for the skills, values and partnership of these two disciplines. Bob and Joyce are former HR and OD C-suite executives who share their successes, failures, and hacks. They believe that it's an exciting time for this work and give specifics around acquisitions, policy nightmares, and grand moments. This podcast is to support your work and to take a moment to step away from the daily chaos. Come on in, grab a snack, and welcome!

    Essential OD Values

    Essential OD Values

    In this episode, Bob’nJoyce share a list of OD values created by a team Joyce worked with several years ago. The list resonated with them but what matters more is if they ring true to you. These values are not exclusive to OD practitioners and apply to all of us who lead and we all lead at something.


    You probably won’t find these values on the ODN website or in an academic leadership article. This list is borne out of hard work, determination, and yes, screwing up. Our hope is after listening, you take a moment to reflect on the values important to doing your best work.


    Here are a few of ours:


    Embrace humor.
    Don’t take yourself too seriously and know when you are up on your high horse.
    Reside on the boundary.
    Know when you are kissing ass and betraying your work.
    Shrug when you screw up.


    Come on in. Grab a snack. Welcome!

    • 24 min
    Stuff That Irritates Us – Part 2

    Stuff That Irritates Us – Part 2

    In this episode, Bob’nJoyce discuss the importance of HR/OD abandoning worn out approaches and rules that no longer cut it. In fact, past practices too often stifle creativity and employee engagement. The role of OD is to “supersize” the capacity and potential of their workforce. Sounds too idealistic and soft? We think not. Taking this on demands courage and patience.


    Warning: We get irritated and a wee bit sarcastic in today’s podcast. Despite this…


    Come on in. Grab a snack. Welcome!

    • 20 min
    Stuff That Irritates Us

    Stuff That Irritates Us

    In this episode, Bob’nJoyce speak out about stuff that irritates the heck out of them. Leaders too often fail to treat employees respectfully, especially at times that matter most. It is almost as if common sense and decency go out the window. Here is some of the stuff that irritates them:


    The arrogance of viewing employees as problems to be solved versus as the solution
    Letting people go without respect and compassion
    Those who manage and manipulate and call it leading
    Managers who ‘do to’ versus ‘doing with’ employees


    Get ready to get irritated!

    • 25 min
    People Analytics Is More Than Just Data – A Conversation with Andrea Derler

    People Analytics Is More Than Just Data – A Conversation with Andrea Derler

    In this episode, our guest, Andrea Derler, shares how people analytics empowers HR and leaders to align HR strategy with business goals like never before. Organizations are increasing under greater pressure to increase employee engagement and performance outcomes. Join us today to learn how people analytics can unlock the untapped value of your employees.


    Come on in. Grab a snack. Welcome


    _About Dr. Andrea Derler
    Andrea Derler, has been leading research projects in the HR field in both U.S. and European companies for over 10 years and has been with Visier, a Canadian software company and a leader in the People Analytics domain, since 2021. In this interview, she will provide a practical introduction to the discipline of People Analytics, share the hottest HR trends of 2024, and offer insights into current case examples from the HR and people analytics practice. _

    • 44 min
    The Power and Irritation of a Good Question

    The Power and Irritation of a Good Question

    In this episode, Bob’nJoyce share thought-provoking question for leaders and HR/OD practitioners. Some questions come from Gallup consulting, and the rest from Joyce’s own writings. Asking a powerful question is a valuable tool for providing insights, shifting perspectives (in a good way), and revealing blind spots. They can also irritate the dickens out of you.


    Come join us as we rift on each and provide our thoughts on where and when to use them. We blend humor, a bit of sarcasm, and brilliant insights that will make you both smile and grimace.


    Spoiler Alert!!!! Here is the list of Joyce's touchstone Leadership Questions:


    — Would you do the same job for half the salary?
    — Do you have something preposterously important you want to get done?
    — Do you think about ‘better’ or ‘different’?
    — Do you look forward to developing, thinking with, being demanding of,
    infusing with enthusiasm, your direct reports?
    — Does the idea of contact with the core of your business excite you or
    bore you?
    —Do you take reality into serious consideration but not bow to it?
    —When people see you coming, do they want to do good work and after you leave, do they want to do their best work?
    — Do you often realize that you owe your privileged role to every person in your company and does it make you determined to make them proud of you?


    Some of these I know grabed your attention and interest so...
    Come on in. Grab a snack. Welcome!

    • 27 min
    The Magic of Self-Organizing Communities

    The Magic of Self-Organizing Communities

    In this episode, Bob’nJoyce rift on the merits and relevance of creating self-organizing communities. Whether it be in the fabric of an organization’s culture or a one-time intervention, taking a decentralized approach for problem solving, co-creation, and vitality works. In this episode we asks as many questions as we answers so buckle up because we need you on this topic.


    We touch on:
    How self-organizing unleashes tapped down energy and promotes engagement.
    The importance of trust that communities will get it right
    Working through the panic that this might just not work
    How to embrace a decentralized approach in a hierarchical, top-down organization.


    Come on in. Grab a snack. Welcome!

    • 21 min

Customer Reviews

5.0 out of 5
10 Ratings

10 Ratings

Top Podcasts In Business

George Kamel
Ramsey Network
The Ramsey Show
Ramsey Network
Money Rehab with Nicole Lapin
Money News Network
REAL AF with Andy Frisella
Andy Frisella #100to0
The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
Vox Media Podcast Network
The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
DOAC