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On The DarkHorse Podcast, we will explore questions that matter, with tools that work. Weekly episodes of "The Evolutionary Lens" are co-hosted with Heather Heying, in which we use an evolutionary toolkit to reveal patterns in nature--including human nature. Other episodes will feature Bret hosting long form discussions. Some guests will be well known, others obscure, but all of them are chosen because they have demonstrated unusual insight. The state and future of civilization will be a recurring theme, so buckle up!

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On The DarkHorse Podcast, we will explore questions that matter, with tools that work. Weekly episodes of "The Evolutionary Lens" are co-hosted with Heather Heying, in which we use an evolutionary toolkit to reveal patterns in nature--including human nature. Other episodes will feature Bret hosting long form discussions. Some guests will be well known, others obscure, but all of them are chosen because they have demonstrated unusual insight. The state and future of civilization will be a recurring theme, so buckle up!

    #94: Is it Later Than We Think? (Bret Weinstein & Heather Heying DarkHorse Livestream)

    #94: Is it Later Than We Think? (Bret Weinstein & Heather Heying DarkHorse Livestream)

    In this 94th in a series of live discussions with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying (both PhDs in Biology), we discuss the state of the world through an evolutionary lens.

    In this episode, we discuss adulthood. Beginning with an excerpt from the Adulthood chapter of our forthcoming book, we discuss postmodernism and physical reality. We then discuss error correction, and explain our concern about the Carvallo study out of Argentina. We discuss cargo cult science, and Heather’s conversation with a liberal Christian outside of a farmer’s market: on being good to one another and connecting, the police and protests and leadership and forgiveness. We share a short excerpt from Elie Wiesel’s book Night, discuss diminishing returns curves, and vitamin D and other low-hanging pandemic fruit. Finally, we enjoin you to smile at people, put your phone down, and define your fights for whom and what you love, rather than against whom and what you hate.
     
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    A Hunter-Gatherer’s Guide to the 21st Century: https://huntergatherersguide.com

    Feynman, R.P., 1974. Cargo cult science. Engineering and Science, 37(7), pp.10-13.: https://calteches.library.caltech.edu/3043/1/CargoCult.pdf
     
    Carvallo et al 2020. Study of the efficacy and safety of topical ivermectin+ iota-carrageenan in the prophylaxis against COVID-19 in health personnel. J biomed res clin investig, 2(1). https://www.medicalpressopenaccess.com/upload/1605709669_1007.pdf
     
    Heidary and Gharebaghi 2020. Ivermectin: a systematic review from antiviral effects to COVID-19 complementary regimen. The Journal of antibiotics, 73(9), pp.593-602: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41429-020-0336-z.pdf
     
    Wiesel, E., 2017. Night: Memorial Edition. Hill and Wang. (originally published 1960)
     
    Koestler, A. 1944. We, The Screamers. Audio read by Eric Weinstein. https://wethescreamers.com
     
    Josh Rogin on Bari Weiss’s podcast. “You’re Already Living in China’s World”:  https://podcasts.apple.com/us/p
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    #93: School of Rocks (Bret Weinstein & Heather Heying DarkHorse Livestream)

    #93: School of Rocks (Bret Weinstein & Heather Heying DarkHorse Livestream)

    In this 93rd in a series of live discussions with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying (both PhDs in Biology), we discuss the state of the world through an evolutionary lens.

    In this episode, we discuss school. Beginning with a discussion of our individual experiences in school, we then share an excerpt from chapter 10 (School) of our forthcoming book, A Hunter-Gatherer’s Guide to the 21st Century. What is school for, and what does it help make us become? Is genius common, or rare? What is the purpose of the scientific method? How is fear used to corral students (and others)? How does a relationship with risk help young people become more adept adults? Are our bodies necessary to our education, or can we be educated as if we were just brains in jars?

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    A Hunter-Gatherer’s Guide to the 21st Century: https://huntergatherersguide.com

    Gatto, John Taylor. 1992 (2017 2nd ed). Dumbing Us Down: The Hidden Curriculum of Compulsory Schooling. New Society Publishers.

    Pirsig, R.M., 1974. Zen and the art of motorcycle maintenance: An inquiry into values. Random House.
     
    Held, R. and A. Hein. 1963. Movement-Produced Stimulation in the Development of Visually Guided Behavior. J. Comparative and Physiological Psychology 56(5): 872–876.
     
    Spiekermann, S., 2018. Carousel kittens: The case for a value-based IoT. IEEE Pervasive Computing, 17(2): 62-65.


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    #92: The Blankest Slate (Bret Weinstein & Heather Heying DarkHorse Livestream)

    #92: The Blankest Slate (Bret Weinstein & Heather Heying DarkHorse Livestream)

    In this 92nd in a series of live discussions with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying (both PhDs in Biology), we discuss the state of the world through an evolutionary lens.

    In this episode, we discuss childhood. Beginning with an excerpt from chapter 9 (Childhood) of our forthcoming book, A Hunter-Gatherer’s Guide to the 21st Century, we discuss what childhood is, what other organisms have it, and why it is important. We discuss plasticity in development, and the need to develop flexibility as a growing human. We discuss Lenore Skenazy (America’s Worst Mom!), and Let Grow, an organization dedicated to helping kids build real-world confidence, competence and openness. We discuss the need for play—real, unstructured play without interference from adults—and for risk. And we discuss the adaptive underpinnings of play.

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    Mentioned in this episode:

    A Hunter-Gatherer’s Guide to the 21st Century: https://huntergatherersguide.com

    Skenazy, L., 2021 (2nd ed). Free-range kids, giving our children the freedom we had without going nuts with worry. John Wiley & Sons.

    Skenazy, L. 2008. Why I Let My 9-Year-Old Ride the Subway Alone. The New York Sun, April 1, 2008. https://www.nysun.com/opinion/why-i-let-my-9-year-old-ride-subway-alone/73976/

    Let Grow: https://letgrow.org

    Gray, P. 2013. Free to Learn: Why Unleashing the Instinct to Play Will Make Our Children Happier, More Self-Reliant, and Better Students for Life. Basic Books.

    Martini, M. (1994). Peer interactions in Polynesia: A view from the Marquesas. In J. L. Roopnarine, J. E. Johnson, & F. H. Hooper (Eds.), Children’s play in diverse cultures (pp. 73-103). Albany: State University of New York Press.

    Lancy, D.F., 2014. The anthropology of childhood: Cherubs, chattel, changelings. Cambridge University Press.

    Spinka, M., Newberry, R.C. and Bekoff, M., 2001. Mammalian play: training for the unexpected. The Quarterly review of biology, 76(2): 141-168. https://www.journals.uchicago.ed
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    #91: The Fog Machine of War (Bret Weinstein & Heather Heying DarkHorse Livestream)

    #91: The Fog Machine of War (Bret Weinstein & Heather Heying DarkHorse Livestream)

    In this 91st in a series of live discussions with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying (both PhDs in Biology), we discuss the state of the world through an evolutionary lens.

    In this episode, we discuss co-morbidities that are associated with bad outcomes from Covid (e.g. obesity, anxiety), and how to take control of your own health. We discuss Joe Rogan and his detractors. The “Central Park Karen” story from May 2020 is revealed as something most people don’t know, by Bari Weiss and Kmele Foster in a recent episode of Honestly (Bari’s podcast). It is an amazing story—well worth listening to—and one lesson of it is that we are living in a conclusion-driven world—journalism, science, and justice are all succumbing. We discuss how (other) liberals are beginning to see the mainstream narrative as incoherent and dangerous. And we discuss plans to bike a century. Chapter 8 of A Hunter-Gatherer’s Guide to the 21st Century, our forthcoming book, is “Parenthood and Relationship.” We read an excerpt on pets and love and also grief, and discuss the value of sitting with the body of your loved one after they die. And finally, we discuss why breast is best, despite what manufacturers of formula would have you believe. Breastfeeding for the win.
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    Kompaniyets  2021. Underlying Medical Conditions and Severe Illness Among 540,667 Adults Hospitalized With COVID-19, March 2020–March 2021. Preventing Chronic Disease, 18. https://www.cdc.gov/Pcd/issues/2021/21_0123.htm
     
    Chris Martensen of Peak Prosperity dives into the above paper here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cccSHUckGSQ&t=321s
     
    Honestly with Bari Weiss – and Kmele Foster, “ The Real Story of the ‘Central Park Karen’: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-real-story-of-the-central-park-karen/id1570872415?i=1000530855326
     
    Full-page ad in the front page section of the Sunday, August 1st, New York Times for this outfit: www.Howisfeedinggoing.com
     
    A corrective to that ad and the company’s missio
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    • 1 hr 31 min
    #90: Weave Well Enough Alone (Bret Weinstein & Heather Heying DarkHorse Livestream)

    #90: Weave Well Enough Alone (Bret Weinstein & Heather Heying DarkHorse Livestream)

    In this 90th in a series of live discussions with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying (both PhDs in Biology), we discuss the state of the world through an evolutionary lens.

    In this episode, we discuss our essay, “On Driving SARS-CoV2 Extinct: Why We Need a Multi-Pronged Approach.” We discuss some of the misinformation that is circulating about…all of this. We then discuss sex and gender: beginning with an excerpt from chapter 7 of A Hunter-Gatherer’s Guide to the 21st Century—Sex and Gender—we discuss the division of labor, the effect of agriculture on gender roles, what sex and gender are, and whether it’s manly to weave. Finally, we discuss a few current events that are pertinent: the eradication of “male” and “female” from medical school curricula; the welcoming of transwomen to compete as and against women in the Olympics; and a short excerpt from Helen Joyce’s new book, Trans. No, we’re not transphobic, but we do see transactivism as a destructive force that is good for nearly nobody—including those rare people who are truly trans.

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    Mentioned in this episode:

    Heather’s newsletter, Natural Selections (subscribe to get free weekly essays in your inbox): https://naturalselections.substack.com

    Our essay, “On Driving SARS-CoV2 Extinct: Why We Need a Multi-Pronged Approach”: https://naturalselections.substack.com/p/on-driving-sars-cov2-extinct

    Let It Rip, Andrew Sullivan’s latest piece: https://andrewsullivan.substack.com/p/let-it-rip-f9c

    Lies, Damned Lies, and Vaccine Statistics, by a Dr. RollerGator, https://drrollergator.substack.com/p/damned-lies-and-vaccine-statistics

    Med Schools Are Now Denying Biological Sex, by Katie Herzog in Common Sense by Bari Weiss: https://bariweiss.substack.com/p/med-schools-are-now-denying-biological

    Carole Hooven’s situation as a lecturer at Harvard: https://twitter.com/HeatherEHeying/status/1421173840206438403?s=20
     
    IOC praises weightlifter Laurel Hubbard before transgender athlete’s Olympic debut, published in The Guardian, July 29, 2021: https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2021/jul/29/ioc-praises-weightlifter-laurel-hubbard-ahead-of-transgender-athletes-olympic-debut
     
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    • 1 hr 29 min
    #89: Transcendental Medication (Bret Weinstein & Heather Heying DarkHorse Livestream)

    #89: Transcendental Medication (Bret Weinstein & Heather Heying DarkHorse Livestream)

    In this 89th in a series of live discussions with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying (both PhDs in Biology), we discuss the state of the world through an evolutionary lens.

    In this episode, we begin by discussing a recent episode of the Making Sense podcast, in which Sam Harris and guest Eric Topol strawman both our position, and that of many people who are trying to engage honestly and carefully with scientific evidence. We discuss the evidence that having had Covid confers immunity against SARS-CoV2; the concerns of some doctors about granting EUAs for the covid vaccines to be used in children; and the selective pressure on pathogens that imperfect vaccination creates. We then discuss sleep: beginning with an excerpt from chapter 6 of A Hunter-Gatherer’s Guide to the 21st Century—Sleep—we discuss dreams and hallucinations, the use of entheogens across human cultures, and the role of different qualities and intensities of light in modulating melatonin, mood, and alertness at various times of day. Finally, we speak to whether the phase of the moon affects our sleep, and conclude by noting that right now, the moon is full.

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    Mentioned in this episode:

    Sam Harris podcast with guest Eric Topol, “A Contagion of Bad Ideas:”: https://samharris.org/podcasts/256-contagion-bad-ideas/

    Cohen et al 2021. Longitudinal analysis shows durable and broad immune memory after SARS-CoV-2 infection with persisting antibody responses and memory B and T cells. Medrxiv. https://www.medrxiv.org/content/medrxiv/early/2021/04/27/2021.04.19.21255739.full.pdf

    Ivanova et al 2021. Discrete immune response signature to SARS-CoV-2 mRNA vaccination versus infection. https://www.medrxiv.org/content/medrxiv/early/2021/04/21/2021.04.20.21255677.full.pdf

    Wastila et al 2021. Why we petitioned the FDA to refrain from fully approving
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