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Join Meade and Christy, two retired-over-drinkers turned freedom-from-alcohol coaches, as they explore all of the stories that kept them stuck in the nightly over-drinking cycle, including but certainly not limited to "But Jesus drank wine?"

If you're looking for two Christian women who get real about how wine held them back and explore tricky questions about drinking (and beyond!) with grace, compassion, and zero judgment, this is the podcast for you.

"But Jesus Drank Wine" & Other Stories That Kept Us Stuck Christy Osborne & Meade Shirley

    • Religion & Spirituality
    • 5.0 • 46 Ratings

Join Meade and Christy, two retired-over-drinkers turned freedom-from-alcohol coaches, as they explore all of the stories that kept them stuck in the nightly over-drinking cycle, including but certainly not limited to "But Jesus drank wine?"

If you're looking for two Christian women who get real about how wine held them back and explore tricky questions about drinking (and beyond!) with grace, compassion, and zero judgment, this is the podcast for you.

    Ep. 73 Peace Amidst Chaos: Unpacking 'The Gospel of John' with Melissa Spoelstra

    Ep. 73 Peace Amidst Chaos: Unpacking 'The Gospel of John' with Melissa Spoelstra

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    We are thrilled to announce our very first BJDW Community book,  "The Gospel of John: Savoring the Peace of Jesus in a Chaotic World." To kick off this exciting venture, we've invited the brilliant author Melissa Spoelstra to join us on the podcast, where she shares her wisdom on how we can learn more about anchoring ourselves in peace amidst life's chaos.
     
    Together, we explore the rich tapestry of John's gospel, delving into its profound significance and uncovering hidden treasures within its pages. We look closer at the transformative narrative of the wedding at Cana, where Jesus initiates His supernatural ministry. Melissa invites us to ponder the timeless wisdom encapsulated in Mary's poignant directive, "Do whatever He tells you," urging us to adopt a posture of obedience and trust in every aspect of our lives.
     
    Melissa opens up about her own journey of falling in love with the Word of God and crafting insightful Bible studies that resonate with seekers of truth. With heartfelt authenticity, she underscores the importance of seeking intimacy with Jesus as the cornerstone of finding enduring peace, regardless of external circumstances or fleeting counterfeits. As we unpack the concept of peace as a person—Jesus Himself—Melissa offers practical strategies for slowing down, listening to God's voice, and savoring moments of intimacy with Him.
     
    Join us as we share our personal reflections and strategies for cultivating peace in the midst of life's storms. From the significance of worship as a balm for worry to the transformative power of obedience and surrender, we pray this episode gives you hope and encouragement for navigating life's challenges with grace, resilience, and unwavering trust in the Prince of Peace.
     
    You can learn more about Melissa’s ministry at melissaspoelstra.com, follow her on instagram @melissa.spoelstra, and get her Gospel of John study right HERE. 
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    00:00 Introduction: Unveiling the Journey to Sobriety and Faith
    00:30 Meet Melissa Spoelstra: A Journey of Faith and Teaching
    02:46 Melissa's Personal Journey: From Rural Texas to Theology and Beyond
    07:55 Exploring the Stories That Keep Us Stuck
    11:26 Finding Peace in Jesus: Insights from the Book of John
    16:11 Savoring Intimacy with Jesus in Times of Pain
    22:06 Practical Steps to Finding Peace and Combatting Nighttime Temptations
    24:12 Introducing the But Jesus Drank Wine Community
    25:31 Embracing Quiet and Intentionality
    25:54 The Journey from Trying to Training
    26:10 Finding Peace and Making Choices
    27:42 The Power of Obedience and Its Impact
    28:35 The Significance of Jesus's First Miracle
    32:49 Personal Stories of Transformation
    34:26 The Freedom Found in Obedience
    35:26 The Essence of Worship and Its Effects
    39:24 Exploring the Gospel of John
    45:38 Closing Thoughts and Encouragement

    The creators, hosts, and producers of the But Jesus Drank Wine podcast are not healthcare practitioners and therefore do not give medical, psychological or professional advice nor do they intend for the podcast, any communication on behalf of BJDW or otherwise to be a substitute for such. Additionally, the views and opinions expressed in any mention of and/or linked resources are those of the authors/owners of those resources and do not necessarily reflect the views or opinions of the But Jesus Drank Wine podcast team or guests of the show. 
     #ChangingPerceptions #NoShame #AlcoholAndDrugs #SubjectiveLabels #getconnected #staycurious #changeyourthinkingchangeyourdrinking #sobriety #alcoholfree #soberliving #alcoholfreelife #thisnakedmind  #lovelifesober #imnotsoberimfree #getconnected  #grayareadrinking #grayareadrinking #butjesusdrankwine #staycurious #changeyourthinkingchangeyourdrinking #christianandsober #christianity #authenticliving #journeytosobriety #wine

    • 48 min
    Ep. 72 Broken Crayons Still Color with Toni Collier

    Ep. 72 Broken Crayons Still Color with Toni Collier

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    This week’s episode is a heart-to-heart with the inspiring Toni Collier, founder of Broken Crayons Still Color, a global women's organization dedicated to guiding individuals through brokenness toward healing and hope. Toni is a seasoned speaker, podcast host, and author who shares her profound insights on navigating life's challenges with grace and resilience.
    In our chat, Toni gets real about the struggles we all face. She dives into the truth that hiding our pain only prolongs our healing journey, stressing the importance of opening up and finding support in our communities. Toni certainly doesn’t shy away from the tough stuff and even though we delve into brokenness, loss, and addiction in this episode, we felt incredibly uplifted and encouraged by Toni’s story and message. She shares how embracing gratitude and a posture of hope can transform our perspective and lead us closer to Christ. This episode will encourage you, dear listener, to embrace your brokenness and embrace the healing process by surrounding yourself with a supportive community that champions vulnerability and authenticity. 
    We hope after you listen to this episode that you are reminded that no matter who you are or what you’ve been through, you can be restored and redeemed. That yes, even broken crayons, still color.
    You can follow Toni on Instagram at @tonijcollier and buy her book, “Brave Enough to Be Broken” here and her children’s book, “Broken Crayons Still Color” here. 
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    00:00 Welcome to Our Journey: Unveiling Freedom from Alcohol
    00:34 Introducing Toni: From Brokenness to Beacon of Hope
    01:14 Toni's Tale: A Journey Through Darkness to Divine Purpose
    06:54 The Power of Broken Crayons: Transforming Pain into Purpose
    12:11 Embracing Vulnerability: The Path to True Strength
    15:06 Community and Healing: Leaving No Stone Unturned
    20:09 The Healing Journey: Embracing Hope as Our Compass
    23:16 Introducing the But Jesus Drank Wine Community
    24:18 Exploring Gratitude and Grief
    24:53 Navigating Divorce and Finding New Beginnings
    26:18 The Coexistence of Grief and Gratitude
    29:35 Confronting Alcohol Use in Times of Grief
    30:27 The Journey to Sobriety and Self-Discovery
    31:24 Embracing Community and Accountability
    38:24 Living Intentionally Above the 50 Percent Line
    39:59 God's Heart Towards Addiction and Recovery
    43:04 Tiny Tina Town: Embracing a Replenishment Cycle
    46:11 Closing Remarks and Community Engagement




    The creators, hosts, and producers of the But Jesus Drank Wine podcast are not healthcare practitioners and therefore do not give medical, psychological or professional advice nor do they intend for the podcast, any communication on behalf of BJDW or otherwise to be a substitute for such. Additionally, the views and opinions expressed in any mention of and/or linked resources are those of the authors/owners of those resources and do not necessarily reflect the views or opinions of the But Jesus Drank Wine podcast team or guests of the show.
     
     #ChangingPerceptions #NoShame #AlcoholAndDrugs #SubjectiveLabels #getconnected #staycurious #changeyourthinkingchangeyourdrinking #sobriety #alcoholfree #soberliving #alcoholfreelife #thisnakedmind  #lovelifesober #imnotsoberimfree #getconnected  #grayareadrinking #grayareadrinking #butjesusdrankwine #staycurious #changeyourthinkingchangeyourdrinking #christianandsober #christianity #authenticliving #journeytosobriety #wineandotherstories #vulnerabilityinrecovery
     

    • 47 min
    Ep. 71 Celebrating Booze-Free Firsts: The Power of Presence & Connection

    Ep. 71 Celebrating Booze-Free Firsts: The Power of Presence & Connection

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    In this episode we dive into the realm of alcohol-free experiences, sharing personal anecdotes and insights into navigating various social situations sans alcohol. We talk about the many milestone alcohol-free firsts, such as date nights, weddings, birthdays, sporting events, vacations, concerts, and theater/ballet performances.
     
    We discuss the joys and benefits of alcohol-free date nights, highlighting enhanced connection and presence. We share our experiences attending weddings without alcohol, focusing on celebration and connection over intoxication. From intimate gatherings to extravagant parties, we explore the possibilities of enjoying birthdays without alcohol. Discovering the excitement of sports events without the influence of alcohol, we emphasize the camaraderie and energy of the experience. Exploring new destinations with a clear mind, we reflect on the beauty of alcohol-free vacations. Attendees of live music events can still have a blast without alcohol, as we discuss the electrifying atmosphere and memorable moments. Experiencing the magic of the arts without alcohol, we delve into the immersive nature of theater and ballet performances.
     
    We also shift gears reflecting on what we’ve learned from many alcohol-free experiences, highlighting the cornerstone of healthy relationships: effective communication. We address the importance of listening and empathy in effective communication. We also explore the impact of body language and tone of voice on communication. We emphasize the significance of trust and rapport in fostering meaningful connections. And we talk through strategies for addressing conflicts through open and honest communication. All of which was made available to us as a gift of experiencing life free from booze.
     
    This episode concludes with encouragement to explore alcohol-free experiences and prioritize effective communication in relationships. Tune in next time for more insightful discussions and practical tips on living a fulfilling, alcohol-free lifestyle.
     
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    00:00 Welcome to Our Journey: Exploring Freedom from Alcohol
    00:30 Diving into Alcohol-Free Firsts: Celebrations and Challenges
    01:34 The Power of Proof of Progress (POP) in Sobriety
    03:49 Navigating Social Situations Alcohol-Free: Date Nights to Weddings
    08:00 Celebrating Milestones and Holidays Without Alcohol
    16:17 Introducing the But Jesus Drank Wine Community
    17:19 Exploring Alcohol-Free Vacations: A New Perspective
    20:24 Experiencing Culture and Entertainment Sober: Concerts to Ballet
    29:42 Reflecting on the Journey and Encouraging Curiosity
    32:36 Closing Thoughts and Encouragement



    The creators, hosts, and producers of the But Jesus Drank Wine podcast are not healthcare practitioners and therefore do not give medical, psychological or professional advice nor do they intend for the podcast, any communication on behalf of BJDW or otherwise to be a substitute for such. Additionally, the views and opinions expressed in any mention of and/or linked resources are those of the authors/owners of those resources and do not necessarily reflect the views or opinions of the But Jesus Drank Wine podcast team or guests of the show.
     
     #ChangingPerceptions #NoShame #AlcoholAndDrugs #SubjectiveLabels #getconnected #staycurious #changeyourthinkingchangeyourdrinking #sobriety #alcoholfree #soberliving #alcoholfreelife #thisnakedmind  #lovelifesober #imnotsoberimfree #getconnected  #grayareadrinking #grayareadrinking #butjesusdrankwine #staycurious #changeyourthinkingchangeyourdrinking #christianandsober #christianity #authenticliving #journeytosobriety #wineandotherstories #vulnerabilityinrecovery
     

    • 33 min
    Ep. 70 Free of Me: Discovering Liberation from Self-Preoccupation with Sharon Hodde Miller

    Ep. 70 Free of Me: Discovering Liberation from Self-Preoccupation with Sharon Hodde Miller

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    From the moment we cracked open the pages of her book, “Free Of Me, Why Life Is Better When It's Not About You,” we knew we needed Sharon Hodde Miller's wisdom on this pod, and we're incredibly grateful she accepted our invitation.
    In a world saturated with the "me" mentality, Sharon shines a light on the pervasive impact of self-centeredness across every facet of our lives. It's a message that infiltrates our friendships, marriages, and even our faith, fracturing each in unique yet profound ways. Pursuing self-improvement often leaves us joyless, our souls diminished, trapped in the cycle of perpetual insecurity.
    Sharon helps us unpack the intricacies of "image management," exposing its corrosive effect on relationships, where individuals are reduced to mere reflections of our own self-image. Through personal anecdotes and profound insights, she guides us through the labyrinth of toxic thought patterns, offering tangible strategies rooted in God's attributes for healing and restoration.
    Sharon challenges us to shift our gaze away from ourselves, unveiling a path of profound healing and freedom in loving God and others. Together, we explore the delicate balance between self-care and self-neglect, emphasizing the inherent worth of embracing our identity as beloved daughters of God.
    We also have a candid chat about the ebbs and flows of waiting seasons, urging us to embrace humility and openness to the transformative work of the Holy Spirit. It's a journey that promises growth, refinement, and, ultimately, freedom from the suffocating grip of self-preoccupation. Join us as we embark on this transformative expedition towards a life liberated from the confines of self.
     
    You can follow Sharon on Instagram at @sharonhmiller. 
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    The Cost of Control by Sharon H. Miller
    Free of Me by Sharon H. Miller
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    You can find this episode HERE on YouTube
     
    00:00 Welcome to 'But Jesus Drank Wine' Podcast
    00:29 Introducing Sharon Hottie Miller: Author, Leader, and Mom
    01:11 The Journey to 'Free of Me': Overcoming Insecurity and Self-Preoccupation
    06:11 The Power of Self-Forgetfulness: Finding Freedom from Ourselves
    30:18 Navigating the Challenges of Publishing and Staying Humble
    31:21 Embracing Humility and the Gift of Hiddenness
    43:15 Final Thoughts and Encouragement
     
    The creators, hosts, and producers of the But Jesus Drank Wine podcast are not healthcare practitioners and therefore do not give medical, psychological or professional advice nor do they intend for the podcast, any communication on behalf of BJDW or otherwise to be a substitute for such. Additionally, the views and opinions expressed in any mention of and/or linked resources are those of the authors/owners of those resources and do not necessarily reflect the views or opinions of the But Jesus Drank Wine podcast team or guests of the show.
     
     #ChangingPerceptions #NoShame #AlcoholAndDrugs #SubjectiveLabels #getconnected #staycurious #changeyourthinkingchangeyourdrinking #sobriety #alcoholfree #soberliving #alcoholfreelife #thisnakedmind  #lovelifesober #imnotsoberimfree #getconnected  #grayareadrinking #grayareadrinking #butjesusdrankwine #staycurious #changeyourthinkingchangeyourdrinking #christianandsober #christianity #authenticliving #journeytosobriety #wineandotherstories #vulnerabilityinrecovery

    • 44 min
    Ep. 69 Drinking in Secret | Conversations on the Unseen Pour and Spiritual Growth

    Ep. 69 Drinking in Secret | Conversations on the Unseen Pour and Spiritual Growth

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    Today, we delve into the complex dynamics of secret drinking, shedding light on the underlying desires for relief and connection in the face of life’s demands. Together we share our experiences of feeling constantly needed by others yet yearning for moments of solace and self-reconnection. Through our reflections, we highlight the transformative power of curiosity and self-compassion in navigating the journey toward freedom from hidden struggles.
    Meade vulnerably shares her struggle with constantly feeling needed by others, highlighting the desire for moments of solace and self-reconnection amidst the demands of motherhood, marriage, and friendship. Through her journey, she uncovers the underlying desire for relief from the pressures of everyday life and the tension of always being in demand.
    Christy echoes Meade's sentiments, emphasizing the importance of recognizing the internal conflict and discomfort that often precede secret drinking. She shares personal experiences of navigating the urge to seek solace in alcohol, acknowledging the societal norms that sometimes trivialize or even glamorize such behavior. 
    Together, we challenge the stigma surrounding secret drinking and offer compassionate insights into the complexities of seeking relief and connection in unhealthy ways.
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    You can find this episode on YouTube HERE 
    The creators, hosts, and producers of the But Jesus Drank Wine podcast are not healthcare practitioners and therefore do not give medical, psychological or professional advice nor do they intend for the podcast, any communication on behalf of BJDW or otherwise to be a substitute for such. Additionally, the views and opinions expressed in any mention of and/or linked resources are those of the authors/owners of those resources and do not necessarily reflect the views or opinions of the But Jesus Drank Wine podcast team or guests of the show.
     
     #ChangingPerceptions #NoShame #AlcoholAndDrugs #SubjectiveLabels #getconnected #staycurious #changeyourthinkingchangeyourdrinking #sobriety #alcoholfree #soberliving #alcoholfreelife #thisnakedmind  #lovelifesober #imnotsoberimfree #getconnected  #grayareadrinking #grayareadrinking #butjesusdrankwine #staycurious #changeyourthinkingchangeyourdrinking #christianandsober #christianity #authenticliving #journeytosobriety #wineandotherstories #vulnerabilityinrecovery
     

    • 36 min
    Ep. 68 The Bob Goff Effect: Tapping into a Spirit-Filled Life

    Ep. 68 The Bob Goff Effect: Tapping into a Spirit-Filled Life

     
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    Get ready for an incredible episode as we sit down with the one and only Bob Goff, a true inspiration in living life to the fullest. Bob, the adventurous soul behind “Love Does,” “Everybody Always,” and “Undistracted," joins us to share his wisdom on embracing the journey, dreaming big, and showing yourself some grace along the way. Get ready to be uplifted, inspired, and ready to tackle your dreams head-on!
    In this heartfelt conversation, Bob encourages us to take that first step, even if we're not fully equipped. With personal anecdotes from his adventures, he emphasizes the importance of deep roots and understanding our unfulfilled needs. Bob's message of grace over self-accusation resonates deeply as he urges us to be kind to ourselves and extend that kindness to others, especially in unexpected places.
    As we journey through navigating mistakes and challenges, Bob's practical wisdom shines through, offering a strategy for handling missteps and reminding us to focus on what comes next. From playful farm adventures to embracing childlike faith, Bob's stories inspire us to live with anticipation, curiosity, and resilience. His personal journey of leaving behind a successful legal career serves as a powerful reminder to break free from limitations and embrace change for a more purpose-driven life.
    Connect with Bob on instagram @bobgoff and at bobgoff.com. 
     
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    00:00 Introduction to the Podcast and Guest Bob Goff
    00:31 Bob Goff's Impact and Achievements
    03:36 Exploring Freedom from Alcohol and Big Dreams
    04:23 Bob Goff on Starting Journeys and Embracing the Unknown
    12:42 Navigating Mistakes and Learning from Them
    22:13 Creating a Supportive Community for Sobriety and Faith
    23:36 The Joy of Play and Fun in Life
    24:53 Embracing a Childlike Faith
    26:18 The Power of Curiosity and Learning
    29:16 Living Beyond Your Capabilities
    33:59 Engaging Deeply with Life and Others
    37:02 Being Present and Creative with Family
    41:27 The Impact of Authentic Relationships
    42:35 Looking Forward to New Learning Adventures
    44:00 Closing Thoughts and Resources
     
    The creators, hosts, and producers of the But Jesus Drank Wine podcast are not healthcare practitioners and therefore do not give medical, psychological or professional advice nor do they intend for the podcast, any communication on behalf of BJDW or otherwise to be a substitute for such. Additionally, the views and opinions expressed in any mention of and/or linked resources are those of the authors/owners of those resources and do not necessarily reflect the views or opinions of the But Jesus Drank Wine podcast team or guests of the show.
     
     #ChangingPerceptions #NoShame #AlcoholAndDrugs #SubjectiveLabels #getconnected #staycurious #changeyourthinkingchangeyourdrinking #sobriety #alcoholfree #soberliving #alcoholfreelife #thisnakedmind  #lovelifesober #imnotsoberimfree #getconnected  #grayareadrinking #grayareadrinking #butjesusdrankwine #staycurious #changeyourthinkingchangeyourdrinking #christianandsober #christianity #authenticliving #journeytosobriety #wineandotherstories #vulnerabilityinrecovery

    • 44 min

Customer Reviews

5.0 out of 5
46 Ratings

46 Ratings

siestowel ,

We need more talk about Jesus like this!

I absolutely loved it the episode with Caroline Dooner. It rang so true to me! I loved the explanation of new age stuff. I wasn’t aware of the depth of all of that and how far it’s taken and how satanic it can get. I love hearing others talk about God and Jesus ☺️ we need that in the world so badly 🤍

Grateful and thankful listener ,

A lifesaver

Meade and Christy are having genuine conversations about the benefits of living alcohol free while acknowledging how radical it would have seemed to them years ago. This is the podcast that Christian women need in their life if they are trying to figure out how to be true in their faith walks while living in todays drinking culture. It’s supportive, honest, and literally changed my life.

RL_Kingwood ,

Best episode yet!

Your episode with Pastor David on shame is your best yet. You are uncovering so much truth and after the hundreds of podcasts I listened to and all the books, there is so much new stuff in this podcast. I’m so grateful for you both and your work. Thank you!!!

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