But Really, How Are You‪?‬ CoryAnn Kleinhaus

This is the final episode for this season! Endings can bring up mixed emotions: sadness, excitement, grief, anticipation, and gratefulness to name a few. Some endings happen intentionally and some are without choice. Whether that’s leaving a job, ending a relationship, selling a home, or even moving, we can end well by intentionally thinking how we would like to exit. Ending well makes room for new beginnings.
In episode 40, we speak with Debbie Laaser on ending well and starting new beginnings. She shares how to recognize when it may be time to end a season, the emotions that may arise, and how to do it with intentionality. This emptying out process creates room for what’s next in our lives. When we feel stuck in our current circumstances, Debbie explains that sometimes it’s about making the next right choice, rather than figuring out the entire plan. It is through listening to ourselves that we can know when to move on and how to discover what will truly give us a sense of joy and fulfillment.
If you are trying to figure out how to end well or what may be next, this is a great episode for you! Thanks for joining us this season on But Really, How Are You?
Key Takeaways
Debbie’s thoughts about the topic -- Ending wellSome beliefs that come along with ending things or being at the stand-still for herWhat she thinks people feel when they are on a stand-still or stuckOn knowing when to change thoughts and beliefs vs. changing what is happening in lifeBeliefs that influence decisions in life for herOn the importance of paying attention to emotions and their messageDebbie’s story on moving on and finding joyThe list that Debbie recommends to aid in finding joyHer thoughts on how to end things wellKnowing when to end a relationship and how to end it in a healthy way for herOn sadness as a healthy part of ending thingsThe benefit of ending things well for her in the long runHer view on the next small steps to pay attention to ending things wellA conversation on finding the next right house and denying self of joyLessons she learned from the book Big MagicHer belief that helped her find joyCorryAnn’s final thanks to close season 1Link
Debbie Laaser on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/debra-laaser-5b640514/Book
Big Magic by Elizabeth Gilbert - https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/24453082-big-magicBio:
Debbie Laaser, M.A., LMFT is a licensed marriage and family therapist and was involved in recovery with her husband, Mark, for over thirty years. After Mark’s passing in 2019, she became the Director of Faithful & True. Debbie has facilitated therapy groups and counseled relationally betrayed wives for over 20 years. She is the author of Shattered Vows and co-author with Mark of Seven Desires and A Toolkit for Growth: Practical Recovery Tools for Individuals and Couples.  Debbie’s recent research project, “Posttraumatic Growth in Relationally Betrayed Women” was published in the Journal of Marital and Family Therapy.

Over the past few years, there has been growing popularity around the practices of mindfulness, meditation, and yoga. Curious about the life changing effects these practices had on so many, researchers began to question if there really was scientific evidence to support these practices. Dr. Sara Lazar was one of these individuals who wanted solid evidence that these practices produced changes in the brain.
In Episode 39, we discuss with Dr. Sara Lazar about her research in the effects of mindfulness, meditation, and yoga. She shares about specific areas of the brain that these practices affect, and how they truly reduce our brain's response to things like stress and pain. Dr. Lazar shares that these benefits go beyond the individual by helping to cultivate greater compassion for others as well. Listen to this episode if you want to learn how mindfulness, meditation, and yoga impact your emotional well-being!
Key Takeaways
A little bit about Sara and her workThe important structures of the brain that she found through her neuro-imaging researchSome brain areas that follow the default mode network as explained by SaraHer view on what brain area is affected by stress and howWhat she found out in her researchWhat types of meditation correlates with better outcomesHer research findings on reducing symptomsHer research on pain and how people experience it How she thinks mindfulness affects pain and its applicability to chronic pain She talks about mindfulness in laborHer study on fear conditioning concerning the pain that people experienceThe effects of doing meditation frequently for herHer view on practicing mindfulness with movementHer explanation on how yoga affects the structures of the brainHer study on TaichiHow yoga helps in developing self-compassion and other resources for herHow she thinks yoga can lead to developing compassion for othersHer opinion on how meditation and other practices build better resilienceHow body awareness ties with yoga and other practices and its importance for herHer recommendations on how people can begin their yoga journeyHer piece of mind on incorporating sensory deprivation in mindfulnessHer tips on doing self-compassion and equanimity  Link
Lazar Lab - https://scholar.harvard.edu/sara_lazar/homeGreen Circle Initiatives - https://www.greencircleinitiatives.com/but-really-how-are-youApp
As Well - https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.greencircleinitiatives.aswell&hl=en&gl=USBio:
Sara W. Lazar, PhD is an Associate Researcher in the Psychiatry Department at Massachusetts General Hospital and an Assistant Professor in Psychology at Harvard Medical School. The focus of her research is to elucidate the neural mechanisms underlying the beneficial effects of yoga and meditation, both in clinical settings and in healthy individuals. She is a contributing author to Meditation and Psychotherapy (Guilford Press). She has been practicing yoga and mindfulness meditation since 1994. Her research has been covered by numerous news outlets including The New York Times, USA Today, CNN, and WebMD, and her work has been featured in a display at the Boston Museum of Science.

When emotions arise, oftentimes we try to figure out how to fix them, rather than asking what they are trying to tell us. However, our emotions are not separate from or intelligence or logic. In fact, emotions are messengers telling us about what we may need or events to pay attention to. 
In Episode 38, we speak with Karla McLaren on the purpose of emotions. She explains the importance of connecting with them and how it benefits our well-being. Karla dives into the specific messages that anger, sadness, grief, anxiety, frustration, happiness and hope are telling us. Karla also researches empathy, and she shares her model of how true empathy works. By the end of this episode, you will learn that emotions aren’t something that need to be fixed, but instead they need to be understood. If you want to grow in your understanding of emotions, this is the episode for you! 
Key Takeaways        
Karla’s work and the things that she doesHer explanation on what emotions are and what it tellsHow she thinks emotions are related to intelligence and logicOn connecting with emotionsThe benefits of investigating emotions for herHer view on how emotions workThe effects of working in an unhealthy work or social environment for herSharing her communication practices for workers to create small areas of engagementHer view on what empathy is Her explanation of the six aspects model of empathyHer opinion on what sadness and grief are and what it tells usWhat frustration vs anger is for herHow can people work on handling anger for herWhat hope and happiness are for herHow she thinks understanding emotions help us deal with life differentlyHer four families of emotions to knowing emotionsHow understanding emotions helps in handling problems for herHow she thinks people tune in to empathy despite feeling fatigueThe message that she wants to leave with the listenersLink
Karla McLaren on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/karla-mclaren-m-ed-17b947a2/Karla McLaren on Twitter - https://twitter.com/KarlaMcLarenKarla McLaren Website - https://karlamclaren.com/As Well App - https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.greencircleinitiatives.aswell&hl=en_IN&gl=USGreen Circle Initiatives Website - https://www.greencircleinitiatives.com/ Book
Practices for Embracing Anxiety by Karla McLaren M.Ed. -  https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/52079401-practices-for-embracing-anxietyPower of Emotions at Work by Karla McLaren M.Ed. - coming out in August 2021Bio:
Karla McLaren, M.Ed. is an award-winning author, social science researcher, and empathy pioneer. Her lifelong work focuses on her grand unified theory of emotions, which revalues even the most “negative” emotions and opens startling new pathways into self-awareness, effective communication, and healthy empathy.
Karla is the author of Embracing Anxiety: How to Access the Genius of this Vital Emotion (2020), The Dynamic Emotional Integration® Workbook (2018), The Art of Empathy: A Complete Guide to Life’s Most Essential Skill (2013), and many audio learning programs and online courses.

This week’s episode is the second part of The Enneagram mini-series. This tool is useful for understanding ourselves, our roles, how we relate to one another, and how we find our place in the world.
In Episode 37, we  explore with Leslie Root how the enneagram affects our relationships. We will learn about the positives and pitfalls of each enneagram type, and how we can deepen our relational understanding with each particular personality type, growing greater compassion towards those around us. This translates directly to our relationship with our children, and Leslie gives parents some great advice as they navigate family life. If you are interested in learning how the enneagram can help improve your relationships, give this episode a listen! 
Key Takeaways        
What Leslie does and incorporating enneagram in her workWhat made her choose enneagram in her practiceOn understanding how enneagram types helps in forming relationshipsWhat the attachment theory isWhat enneagram types she thinks pair up togetherHer view on the positive and pitfalls of enneagram typesOn wings, instinct, and subtypes in getting enneagram type variationsHer advice to do a discovery session with experts in knowing the enneagram typeHer description of the nine enneagram typesHer view on building relationships through understanding the enneagram typesWhen she thinks the enneagram type fully evolvesHow enneagram affects love relationships for herOn enneagram types as the shortcut in understanding people and relationshipsResources she recommendsAbout her online workshop in discovering enneagram typesLink
Leslie Root on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/lrootEnneagram unlimited on Facebook - https://web.facebook.com/groups/318602159249453/?_rdc=1&_rdr Book
The wisdom of the enneagram by Russ Hudson – https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/311053.The_Wisdom_of_the_Enneagram Podcast
Leslie Root Podcast - http://leslierootcounseling.com/podcast Bio:
Leslie Root LMFT is a certified sex and love addiction, RLT, PIT, Enneagram trained therapist who loves to work with clients on discovering their true north in life and love relationships. In addition to her therapy work, Leslie trains coaches and therapists on using the enneagram in their work and personal lives. To learn more about Leslie and her program offerings feel free to visit her website at leslierootcounseling.com or join the enneagram facebook group at facebook.com/groups/enneagramunlimited

From the moment a child is born, they are shaped by the world outside themselves. However, if you look at a young child, it is evident that they have their own unique personality. Because of this, various personality typing tools have evolved to help a person understand one’s self and others better. 
The Enneagram has its roots in ancient tradition, and has become a modern way to synthesize various personality types. The Enneagram outlines only nine personality types; however, this seemingly simple system is quite complex when you look below the surface. 
In Episode 36, we invited Enneagram Coach Ramona Reid to provide a broad overview of the Enneagram types. Ramona shares the importance of the Enneagram, how groups of Enneagram types operate in similar ways, and how we can approach understanding our own Enneagram type. Whether this is familiar or your first time hearing about the Enneagram , this episode will provide you with a better understanding of yourself and others. 
Key Takeaways
Ramona’s journey to getting into the enneagramHer view on what enneagram isOn understanding enneagram for emotional wellbeingHow she correlates somatic experience of emotion and the enneagram typesHer explanation on the nine enneagram types according to the centres of intelligenceHow she distinguishes what enneagram type a person isHer recommended resources on the enneagramHer view on understanding the enneagram types to help people understand things betterHow she uses enneagram to analyze what a person needs in a situationHow she uses enneagram in relationshipsHow enneagram helps in searching for life’s purpose or meaning for herLinks
Ramona Reid on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/ramona-reid-103187b1/Ramona Reid on Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/rooreid/Enneagram Institute - https://www.enneagraminstitute.com/Holistic Revolution Radio Shows - http://www.mynashvillecenter.com/Green Circle Initiatives - https://www.greencircleinitiatives.com/but-really-how-are-youBook
The Body Keeps the Score by  Bessel van der Kolk M.D. - https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/18693771-the-body-keeps-the-scoreThe Brain-Based Enneagram by Jerome D. Lubbe - https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/51977642-the-brain-based-enneagramThe Honest Enneagram by Sarajane Case - https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/52152562-the-honest-enneagramThe Wisdom of the Enneagram by Don Richard Riso and Russ Hudson - https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/311053.The_Wisdom_of_the_EnneagramPodcast
The Sleeping at Last Podcast - https://sleepingatlast.podbean.com/Enneagram Worldwide - https://enneagramworldwide.com/ App
As Well - https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.greencircleinitiatives.aswell&hl=en&gl=US

Oftentimes, when we think of being creative, we associate it with a form of art or creating a product. But being a creative person is more about how we think than what we produce. And living a creative life can affect every aspect from relationships, to problem solving, or self expression. 
 
In this episode, we talk with Dr. Terri Goslin-Jones about creativity and how it impacts our emotional well-being. She helps define what everyday creativity is and how it can change the way we view life. Creativity is something that we can practice and grow in, and through this also grow as a person. Creativity can help us find challenging solutions or transition during big life changes. Getting in touch with our creative side can help us get in touch with our inner landscape. Give this episode a listen to learn more!

Key Takeaways
A little about Terri and her work What creativity is for herTerri’s definition of everyday creativityHow creativity crosses psychology and wellness for herHow she sees life without creativityChanging people internally through creativity for herOn the importance of opening up to creativityUsing creativity in teaching psychology or working with people for herThe effects of living creatively to a person’s well-being for herOn creativity in relationshipsHer idea of helping people through creativity to move in different stages of lifeOn creativity as a productHow to discover creativity for herHer view on using creativity to overcome difficultiesOn mindfulness creativity and collaborationHow she uses creativity to make changes in lifeHer opinion on creating yourself through creativityTerri’s tips on opening the creativity boxHer view on starting simple with creativity On using meditation and sounding Her thoughts on everyone’s creative potentialLink
Dr. Terri Goslin-Jones Website - https://terrigoslin-jones.com/Dr. Terri Goslin-Jones on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/terri-goslin-jones-ph-d-981438/Bio:
In my private practice as a workplace psychologist, I work with individuals and groups. I also work as a psychology professor and teach coursework and supervise research on creativity studies.  
My business mission is to Discover the Wonder of People at Work™. My core belief is that work becomes more meaningful when creativity is nurtured through the expression of a person’s unique gifts, talents, and perspectives. My coaching creates a path for growth, change, and personal renewal. Prior to consulting, I spent my career working as a Director / VP of Human Resources.
Personal Interests:  
I am passionate about living a life that is meaningful, authentic, creative and will make a difference to my family, friends, clients and colleagues. I am committed to family life, expressive arts, gardening, and a love for life-long learning, physical fitness, spirituality, and international travel. 
 
Education: 
Ph.D., Psychology, Saybrook University, Pasadena, CA 
Dissertation focus: Creativity and the Workplace 
M.A., Personnel and Counseling, Miami University-Ohio 
B.A., Psychology, Western Michigan University