30 episodes

Can This Work in a Small Church? is hosted by Karl Vaters, a small church pastor and author of several books including Small Church Essentials.
Each episode looks at a specific church leadership topic from a small church perspective.
We'll describe how smaller congregations need to approach most aspects of ministry differently than big churches do, but the goal will always be to find practical answers as we follow Christ's mission together.

Can This Work In A Small Church‪?‬ Karl Vaters

    • Religion & Spirituality
    • 4.9 • 18 Ratings

Can This Work in a Small Church? is hosted by Karl Vaters, a small church pastor and author of several books including Small Church Essentials.
Each episode looks at a specific church leadership topic from a small church perspective.
We'll describe how smaller congregations need to approach most aspects of ministry differently than big churches do, but the goal will always be to find practical answers as we follow Christ's mission together.

    Ending Human Trafficking, with Dr. Sandra Morgan

    Ending Human Trafficking, with Dr. Sandra Morgan

    Karl Vaters interviews Dr. Sandie Morgan, co-author of the new book, Ending Human Trafficking.
    In this episode we talk about how healthy churches are uniquely positioned to help prevent human trafficking, including:

    What signs to look for in people who may be vulnerable

    How to partner with other agencies and law enforcement

    How to set proper policies

    Why we need to pay more attention to labor trafficking, not just sex trafficking

    How to find resources in our neighborhood


    And so much more, including a take on the biblical story of Elisha and the widow (2 Kings 4) that any pastor can preach from to help your congregation understand the importance of this issue and how to prevent it.
    Dr. Morgan is also the host of the Ending Human Trafficking podcast, and the director of the Global Center for Women and Justice at Vanguard University. She also served by presidential appointment on the Public-Private Partnership Advisory Council to End Human Trafficking.

    Links from this episode:
    Ending Human Trafficking
    Sweat and Toil app
    endinghumantrafficking.org
    gcwj.org
    Sandie Morgan social media: Twitter, Facebook, Instagram

    For a Transcript of this episode visit the Pivot Blog 

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    • 58 min
    The Unexpected Origins of the Church Growth Movement, with Dr. Gary McIntosh

    The Unexpected Origins of the Church Growth Movement, with Dr. Gary McIntosh

    Karl Vaters interviews Dr. Gary McIntosh about Donald McGavran's role as the pioneer of the church growth movement.
    But don’t let the term "church growth movement" stop you from listening. Dr. McIntosh tells us that the origins of church growth are far different than what most of us have been taught recently.
    Some of the misunderstandings he clears up include:

    That it came from the heart of a missionary, not a pastor

    That it was about being cross-cultural, not omni-cultural

    That it was focused as much or more on the impact of smaller congregations than the building of bigger ones


    Donald A. McGavran: A Biography of the Twentieth Centurys Premier Missiologist

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    • 50 min
    Destigmatizing the "M" Word (Marketing) with Austin Savage

    Destigmatizing the "M" Word (Marketing) with Austin Savage

    An interview with Austin Savage about the role of marketing in church leadership, including what marketing is, what it isn’t, and why we need to destigmatize it to use it effectively.
    You may know Austin from the work he did with 95Network.com, including several years co-hosting the 95Podcast with Dale Sellers. Recently, he established Austin Savage & Co. to help churches with creating content and using media in the church.
    In this conversation, Karl and Austin talk about

    The difference between Marketing and promotion/advertising

    How to put the content your church is already creating into the marketplace in creative ways

    How to get started without costing any money


    Links
    Asana
    95network.org
    Austinsavage.co

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    • 47 min
    Why Your Church Needs A Website And Social Media, with Josh Givens

    Why Your Church Needs A Website And Social Media, with Josh Givens

    So, your church has a Facebook page? In a small church, that should be enough of an online presence, right? Wrong.
    It finally happened! The answer to the question, "Can This Work In A Small Church?" isn't "yes"! (Well, not entirely, anyway.) Find out why in this interview with Josh Givens.
    Topics include:

    The importance of getting online

    Why we must stay connected to the people we meet there

    Why we must invest money and time to own online real estate (a website)

    The importance of the pastor’s personal online presence

    How much your church communicates before people step inside the building


    Josh is the Communications Director for Northside Bible Church in Mobile AL, and for 614Ministries.org.

    Links

    NorthsideMobile.org

    Using Photos Online (YouTube video)

    Unsplash.com (Free photos)

    614Ministries.org

    JDGivens.com

    CornerstoneFV.com

    Canva


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    • 46 min
    Rural Church Rescue, with Jon Sanders

    Rural Church Rescue, with Jon Sanders

    An interview with Jon Sanders, the founder of SmallTownBigChurch.com, co-host of the EntrePastors podcast and author of Rural Church RESCUE: A Call to Restore Healthy Churches to Rural North America.
    Jon and Karl talk about how Jon used the principles he learned as a firefighter to help churches better understand how to do ministry that matters. The parallels between the roles of firefighter and pastors are vivid, and the lessons are clear.
    Subjects include the need for a clear mission and vision, the need to adapt, and the necessity of training and working as a team.
    Links:
    Rural Church RESCUE: A Call to Restore Healthy Churches to Rural North America
    Calendly
    Smalltownbigchurch.com
    EntrePastors podcast

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    • 52 min
    A Christian's Guide To The Gender Revolution, with Dr. Vince Gil

    A Christian's Guide To The Gender Revolution, with Dr. Vince Gil

    Karl Vaters interviews Dr. Vincent E. Gil, the author of A Christian's Guide Through the Gender Revolution: Gender, Cisgender, Transgender, and Intersex (Cascade Publishing, 2021.) .
    Dr. Gil taught human sexuality and counseled at a conservative Christian college for 38 years. He has been a consultant on sexual issues for church leaders and denominations, and is himself a licensed minister.
    This is a sensitive subject that often causes division, or gets ignored due to some of the complexity and concerns. In this conversation, Karl and Dr. Gil talk about how to understand the current “gender moment,” and negotiate a better way than taking sides on issues.
    Karl and Dr. Gil address issues of concern to pastors, and provide a dialogue on how to approach varied sex/gender concerns in congregants and beyond.
    (Our apologies for a technical issue. In the front half of the podcast there are several times when you can hear a thumping in the background while Dr. Gil is talking. We have done our best to limit it, but we were not able to remove it.)
     
    Links:
    Dr. Gil’s Webpage: drvincegil.com.
    Dr. Gil’s recent book: A Christian's Guide through the Gender Revolution: Gender, Cisgender, Transgender, and Intersex (2021). Available in Hardcover, paperback and Kindle editions at Amazon.

    For a Transcript of this episode visit the Pivot Blog 

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    • 1 hr 6 min

Customer Reviews

4.9 out of 5
18 Ratings

18 Ratings

Apostle84 ,

6 stars… no really

Karl is a gift to small church pastors. I’m sorry to say I didn’t catch this from the beginning, but now I get to binge 2 months worth at once. That means more great moments like Darth Vader wielding a dog brush. Lots of guys have been championing small church over the last 5 years, but Karl was the original. Thankful God has enabled him.

Pastor James Turnes ,

So needed!

Karl Vaters has his finger on the pulse of a small church. Make sure to check out his book The Grasshopper Myth. Changed my view of what the small church is. Great stuff!

Mdehnert82 ,

Finally!

This is great. I love the premise. Big churches are good and have their place, but solutions for a big church and a small church are different. Thank you for making this.

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