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Welcome to the Canadian Church Leaders Podcast, hosted by Jason Ballard. We are committed to serving church leaders and their teams by sharing conversations focused on pastoral leadership. Each episode features honest and thoughtful interviews with key voices from Canada and beyond. We want you to be inspired and encouraged as you hear the stories of hundreds of churches alongside the learnings of those who are leading today.

Canadian Church Leaders Podcast CCLN

    • Religion & Spirituality
    • 4.8 • 13 Ratings

Welcome to the Canadian Church Leaders Podcast, hosted by Jason Ballard. We are committed to serving church leaders and their teams by sharing conversations focused on pastoral leadership. Each episode features honest and thoughtful interviews with key voices from Canada and beyond. We want you to be inspired and encouraged as you hear the stories of hundreds of churches alongside the learnings of those who are leading today.

    Incubator Sessions: In England with Pete Hughes, Simon Ponsonby, Tim May & Others

    Incubator Sessions: In England with Pete Hughes, Simon Ponsonby, Tim May & Others

    In today’s episode, we share some highlights from our time in England with our Church Leaders Incubator. This cohort of 17 young, senior leaders in Canada got to connect with pastors and church teams over a 5 day trip as part of their 2 year journey in the program. Hear some of their reflections from the sessions and how it impacted them at a personal level. 

    To learn more about the Church Leaders Incubator or to apply for our January 2023 Intake, head to ccln.ca/incubator

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    • 37 min
    Incubator Sessions: Mark Sayers on Self Actualization as Idolatry, Spiritual Authority, the Priestly Call to Sacrifice, and Stewarding Soft Power

    Incubator Sessions: Mark Sayers on Self Actualization as Idolatry, Spiritual Authority, the Priestly Call to Sacrifice, and Stewarding Soft Power

    Mark Sayers joined an online session with our Church Leaders Incubator back in the Fall where he explored a variety of topics on pastoral leadership and prophetically spoke into where he believes the Spirit is moving the church in the coming years.

    Bio | Mark Sayers is a cultural commentator, writer, and speaker. He is passionate about spiritual renewal and the future of the church. Mark is the author of a number of books, including Disappearing Church, Facing Leviathan, and Reappearing Church. Mark is the senior leader of Red Church in Melbourne, Australia. He is also one of the hosts of the Rebuilders podcast. Mark lives in Melbourne, Australia, with his wife, Trudi, his daughter, Grace, and twin boys, Hudson and Billy.

    Thanks to Compassion Canada for sponsoring today’s episode. You can learn more about partnering with them as a church here.

    Register for our Preaching Seminar with Darrell Johnson on June 3rd here. 

    Show Notes:


    Mark Sayers: Non Anxious Presence Book
    Red Church
    Intercessor - Rees Howells

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    • 1 hr 7 min
    Incubator Sessions: Darren Rouanzoin on Preparing for What’s Next by Disrupting Comforts, Identifying Compromise & Consecrating Oneself

    Incubator Sessions: Darren Rouanzoin on Preparing for What’s Next by Disrupting Comforts, Identifying Compromise & Consecrating Oneself

    In today’s episode, we bring you into a conversation Jason hosted for our Church Leaders Incubator with Darren Rouanzoin. Amongst our group of young, senior leaders, Jason and Darren wade into conversations on what a Spirit filled church looks like, the need for personal holiness as pastors, and how to build a covenantal community. 

    Bio | Darren Rouanzoin lives in Long Beach, California, with his wife Alex and their two boys, Ezra and Amos.  Darren is the founding pastor of Garden Church, a community in the heart of one of the most diverse cities in the US. He is passionate about leading people to know and experience the extravagant generosity of God and the abundant life Jesus brings here and now.

    Thanks to the Canadian Bible Society for supporting this episode. Learn more about their Bible Course here. 

    Show Notes:


    Garden Church
    Darren’s Website

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    • 59 min
    Gordon Smith on How Individuals, Churches, and Pastors Can Discover Their Calling & Find Hope in Exile

    Gordon Smith on How Individuals, Churches, and Pastors Can Discover Their Calling & Find Hope in Exile

    Gordon Smith joins Jason to dive into topics like calling, ecclesiology, secularism, and having hope for the next season as pastors and leaders. 

    Bio | Gordon T. Smith (PhD, Loyola School of Theology, Ateneo de Manila University) is the president of Ambrose University and Seminary in Calgary, Alberta, where he also serves as professor of systematic and spiritual theology. He is an ordained minister with the Christian and Missionary Alliance and a teaching fellow at Regent College, Vancouver, British Columbia. He is the author of many books, including Institutional Intelligence, Courage and Calling, Called to Be Saints, and Evangelical, Sacramental, and Pentecostal.

    Show Notes:


    Gordon Smith website
    Ambrose University 
    Gordon Smith’s books 
    Parker Palmer - The Courage to Teach
    Alec Hill - Just Business

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    • 48 min
    Glenn Packiam on Overcoming Division in Your Church, the Invitation in Vocational Uncertainty & the Resilient Pastor

    Glenn Packiam on Overcoming Division in Your Church, the Invitation in Vocational Uncertainty & the Resilient Pastor

    Glenn Packiam was last on the podcast in mid 2020 with Jason, so we were excited to have him back on and to hear about his latest book, The Resilient Pastor. Partnering with Barna, Glenn dives into research on the state of pastors and churches and what it will take to lead your church in a rapidly changing world.

    Bio | Glenn Packiam (Doctor of Theology and Ministry, Durham University) is associate senior pastor at New Life Church in Colorado Springs, and lead pastor of one of its eight congregations, New Life Downtown. A Senior Fellow at Barna Group, a visiting fellow at St. John’s College at Durham University, and an adjunct professor at Denver Seminary, Glenn is the author of several books, including The Resilient Pastor, Blessed Broken Given, and Worship and the World to Come.

    He is also an ordained priest with the Anglican Church of North America, speaks regularly at conferences, and has appeared on numerous podcasts and radio shows. Glenn and his wife, Holly, live in the shadow of the Rocky Mountains with their four children.

    Show Notes:


    The Resilient Pastor - Glenn Packiam's book 
    New Life Church
    Glenn’s Website
    Soul Sanctuary Church Story

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    • 51 min
    Winn Collier on How the Life, Presence & Posture of Eugene Peterson Speaks to Pastors Today

    Winn Collier on How the Life, Presence & Posture of Eugene Peterson Speaks to Pastors Today

    One of the most influential voices in western evangelicalism in recent history has been pastor Eugene Peterson. Known especially for his paraphrase of the Bible, “The Message”, his writings, preaching, and pastoral life have touched the lives of millions. In today's episode, Jason sits down with Winn Collier, who recently released the authorized biography of Eugene called “A Burning in My Bones”. 

    Bio | In addition to A Burning in My Bones, Winn Collier has authored four books (Restless Faith, Let God: The Transforming Wisdom of François Fénelon, Holy Curiosity, and Love Big, Be Well) and contributed to numerous other volumes. He has written for multiple periodicals including Christianity Today, Christian Century, Relevant, and the Washington Post.

     A pastor for twenty-five years, Winn was the founding pastor of All Souls Charlottesville in Virginia. He now directs the Eugene Peterson Center for Christian Imagination at Western Theological Seminary in Michigan. He holds a PhD from the University of Virginia, where he focused on the intersection of religion and literary fiction. Winn and his wife, Miska, a spiritual director, live in Holland, Michigan, with their two sons.

    Show Notes:


    Working the Angles - Eugene Petersen
    Eugene Peterson Center for Christian Imagination
    A Burning In My Bones - Eugene Peterson 

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    • 53 min

Customer Reviews

4.8 out of 5
13 Ratings

13 Ratings

KSchwahn1 ,

Shaping Vision

As a leader of young people in the NW United States, these conversations are powerful in shaping my vision of cultural renewal in the Post-Christian world. Amazing guests, engaging conversation, practical implication. Love this podcast 🙌🏼

VCYoungAdults ,

So brilliant and needed!

This podcast is full of incredible world-class leaders with a real depth of wisdom and vision for faithfully following Jesus in church leadership. You’re going to want to follow this closely.

JedidiahAJ ,

Relevant and Inspiring

If there was ever a time for a collection of voices from the body of Christ it’s NOW. Jason is an incredible host and you can feel him leaning into each conversation. This is honest. It’s real. It’s inspiring. It’s relevant! If you are a church leader, Worth your time.

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