45 episodes

Cash Flow. You love it. You want it! We’re all seeking it, but what’s the best way to generate it?
Google Cash Flow and get instantly overwhelmed.
With so much noise and marketing hype out there, how do you know which approach is the best for you?

We’ve wrestled with massive amounts of research, opinions and experimentation trying to find the best methods. Now we’re on a mission to find the best methods and give you all the dirty details - Fight Club style!

In our signature Fight Club matchups, we bring together the heavyweights of business and investing to debate the risks, rewards and the inside scoop on the best ways to generate life-changing cash flow that can put you on the path to financial freedom. And after battling it out in the arena over 3 rounds, we crown the Champion.

We alternate Fight Club matchups by going In the Champion’s Corner, where we’ll discover what it takes to forge a champion. Mindset, high performance habits, best-in-class behaviors and more of what it takes to be successful – in your finances and in life.

So whether it’s passive income, real estate, side hustles or cash-flowing business ventures, we’re bringing you all the details in the most informative and entertaining show on the airwaves.

Join us to see who’ll reign supreme! Who will take home the title of Cash Flow Fight Club Champion. And the 1st rule of the Cash Flow Fight Club – hit subscribe and don’t miss even 1 battle among the titans of Cash Flow. It’s going to be epic!

Cash Flow Fight Club Mike and Ligia Deaton

    • Business
    • 5.0 • 6 Ratings

Cash Flow. You love it. You want it! We’re all seeking it, but what’s the best way to generate it?
Google Cash Flow and get instantly overwhelmed.
With so much noise and marketing hype out there, how do you know which approach is the best for you?

We’ve wrestled with massive amounts of research, opinions and experimentation trying to find the best methods. Now we’re on a mission to find the best methods and give you all the dirty details - Fight Club style!

In our signature Fight Club matchups, we bring together the heavyweights of business and investing to debate the risks, rewards and the inside scoop on the best ways to generate life-changing cash flow that can put you on the path to financial freedom. And after battling it out in the arena over 3 rounds, we crown the Champion.

We alternate Fight Club matchups by going In the Champion’s Corner, where we’ll discover what it takes to forge a champion. Mindset, high performance habits, best-in-class behaviors and more of what it takes to be successful – in your finances and in life.

So whether it’s passive income, real estate, side hustles or cash-flowing business ventures, we’re bringing you all the details in the most informative and entertaining show on the airwaves.

Join us to see who’ll reign supreme! Who will take home the title of Cash Flow Fight Club Champion. And the 1st rule of the Cash Flow Fight Club – hit subscribe and don’t miss even 1 battle among the titans of Cash Flow. It’s going to be epic!

    E43: A Business Coaching 1-2 Punch: Faster Success with Atomic Coaching

    E43: A Business Coaching 1-2 Punch: Faster Success with Atomic Coaching

    Are you an entrepreneur or business owner struggling with mindset barriers or operational challenges? In this episode, mindset experts Adam Hurd and Tom Marino share insights on mindset mastery, overcoming common entrepreneur challenges, and their unique collaborative coaching approach. 
    Learn their strategies for overcoming limiting beliefs and achieving life harmony through Atomic Business Coaching. Hear real client success stories and how small daily tasks built one man's confidence, growing his business revenues exponentially. 
    Here are some power takeaways from today’s conversation:
    00:00
    04:24 - More about Adam and Tom
    09:43 - Finding harmony through purpose
    15:52 - A look into their business process flow
    18:15 - The value of dual perspectives in coaching
    19:10 - Strategy for bringing clarity to clients
    19:50 - The philosophy behind Atomic Business Coaching's approach
    24:40 - The reality of uneven contribution in partnerships
    45:26 - Embracing the reality of failure for success
    48:15 - Embracing the reality that entrepreneurship is hard work 
     
    Episode Highlights:
    [12:16] Finding Harmony Through Purpose
    Tom and Adam don't believe in the concept of work/-life balance, as it sets an unrealistic standard of perfectionism. They aim to help people experience harmony by aligning their actions with their deepest motivations.
    [13:41] Stepping Into Discomfort to Achieve Growth
    Tom and Adam help clients expand beyond limitations by thoughtfully challenging comfort zones. They explain how their coaching brings people outside safe routines. But they don't leave clients to face new fears alone. They walk alongside, guiding clients through uncertainty. This supportive process builds momentum so businesses and lives can progress powerfully.
    [15:52] Iterative Process Design for Optimal Client Outcomes
    Tom and Adam have carefully designed their coaching process through iterative testing and refinement. They ensure systems can be understood by all skill levels, even children. Their 90-day trials and regular evaluations have optimized a distinct yet complementary workflow - Adam focuses on strategy while Tom addresses mindsets. This delivers value to clients.
    [19:10] Gaining Clarity Through the "Believe-Behave-Become" Methodology
    Tom and Adam utilize a methodology called "Believe-Behave-Become" with their clients. First, they work to help clients gain a true belief that they can accomplish their goals. Once that belief is established, they assist with behaving following this newfound confidence. If clients believe and behave a certain way, they will then become who they envision. This staged approach aims to bring clarity around priorities and actions needed to achieve business and personal success.
    [24:40] The Reality of Uneven Contribution in Partnerships
    Tom explains that no relationship, including business partnerships, can truly be 50/50 split. People give differently depending on their capabilities. Some days one partner may only have 20% to contribute while the other covers 80%. The key is flexibility to go back and forth in levels of participation. This understanding is important for partnerships to function effectively over time, as circumstances change for each individual.
    [45:26] Embracing the Reality of Failure for Success
    Adam notes that even the most accomplished entrepreneurs fail 70% of the time. Being willing to take more risks and fail more than competitors separates the highly successful. This mindset is key for entrepreneurs, as experimenting, learning from mistakes, and continually trying new approaches lead to long-term growth.
    Resources Mentioned:
    Atomic Business Coaching

    • 57 min
    E42: Earning Millions from Land Development with Brandon Cobb

    E42: Earning Millions from Land Development with Brandon Cobb

    Real estate offers so much variety and many ways to earn outstanding returns, build wealth and generate passive income. Discover how adversity can spark success in real estate. In this episode, Brandon Cobb discusses his unexpected firing that led him to entrepreneurship. Now the owner of real estate firm HBG Capital, Brandon shares strategies for land acquisition, development approvals, and syndicating deals with investors. Plus, Brandon shares his outlook on real estate risks in 2024 and his goals to end veteran homelessness through development.
    Here are some power takeaways from today’s conversation:
    00:00
    02:43 - Brandon’s background in sales and sports medicine
    06:40 - Getting fired and deciding to pursue entrepreneurship
    11:18 - Strategies for land acquisition, development approvals, and syndicating deals
    20:10 - Addressing the supply imbalance for first-time homebuyers
    21:09 - Leveraging technology and relationships to find development sites
    33:45 - Syndicating land deals with investors to fund development projects
    42:11 - Daily mindset practices and advice for handling adversity
    44:15 - Outlook on 2024 real estate risks and goals to end veteran homelessness
     
    Episode Highlights:
    [04:54] An Unexpected Career Pivot and Path to Real Estate
    Brandon began his career in medical device sales, enjoying his work in sports medicine. However, he was unexpectedly fired from his job one sunny Friday afternoon. Shocked and confused, Brandon decided to pursue entrepreneurship. He started a life coaching business and met his now business partner at a real estate meetup. Together, they invested in real estate deals in Colorado Springs.
    [20:10] Addressing the Supply Imbalance for First-Time Homebuyers
    Brandon discusses the growing opportunity in affordable housing development to address the supply imbalance for first-time homebuyers. He notes that 33% of home buyers are millennials seeking their first home, yet less than 10% of homes built cater to their price point. This creates a major supply and demand issue. Brandon also touches on how this presents opportunities for build-to-rent strategies due to the affordability of housing needed by this growing demographic.
    [27:03] Leveraging Technology and Relationships to Find Development Sites
    Brandon discusses his strategies for identifying land parcels for development. This includes using tools like LandGlide to map suitable properties and building relationships with local brokers and municipalities. He explains how to present initial concept plans to get verbal approvals before engaging engineers. 
    [33:45] Syndicating Land Deals with Investors to Fund Development Projects
    Brandon syndicates land development deals with investors to fund projects. He raises capital from private investors and structures deals to purchase land through syndications. This allows Brandon to acquire land upfront while mitigating risk through equity funding rather than taking on debt.
    Resources Mentioned:
    HBG Capital
    LandGlide

    • 54 min
    E41: Learn the best way to fund real estate deals - Private Money vs. Investor Capital

    E41: Learn the best way to fund real estate deals - Private Money vs. Investor Capital

    This episode of Cashflow Fight Club features two great models for building a successful real estate empire: private lending with Jay Conner and syndication with Jen and Stacy Konkey. 
    Jay shares how he financed over 500 single family rehab deals by educating private lenders on the benefits of backing his projects, providing passive investors high returns. Meanwhile, Jen and Stacy talk about how they have acquired and operated over 2,500 multifamily units by strategically raising capital from accredited investors through various structures like joint ventures and 506C funds. 
    Both models showcase effective ways to leverage other people's money and acquire assets at scale, proving the adage that OPM is the true superpower of real estate.
    Here are some power takeaways from today’s conversation:
    00:00
    01:14 - Two great models to build your real estate empire
    02:25 - About Jay Conner and Jen & Stacy Conkey
    14:49 - Jay’s approach of raising private money through teaching investors
    20:12 - Jen and Stacy’s approach to raising capital and scaling
    28:12 - Eyeing new opportunities based on strategy and the economy
    36:57 - Setting return expectations 
    43:08 - How Jay controls the terms for private lenders
     
    Episode Highlights:
    [01:14] Two Great Models to Build Your Real Estate Empire
    Using passive investors' capital - Investors' money can be pooled together via a syndication to make down payments on assets by taking a limited partnership stake. The remainder comes from bank loans. This model leverages the power of syndication to purchase and operate assets like apartment buildings and mobile home parks.
    100% funding using private money - One or a few individuals provide the full capital to purchase assets outright, requiring no bank or financing. This direct private funding model is often used for house flipping, where a property is purchased, renovated, and quickly resold for profit.
    [14:49] How Jay Raised $2.15 Million in Private Money by Teaching Investors
    After losing bank financing in 2009, Jay Connor knew he needed to change his funding strategy. Rather than desperately pitching deals to investors, he chose to educate his network on private lending. This approach allowed investors to understand the opportunity and proactively commit funds. Within 90 days, Jay’s new "teacher hat" mindset successfully attracted $2.15 million from individuals simply by leading with knowledge, not salesmanship.
    [20:12] A Mindset Shift in Raising Capital
    Jen and Stacy discussed their evolution in raising capital over the years. Starting from her initial struggles securing funds for small deals, Stacy shared how her mindset shifted from feeling like she was asking for money to recognizing many people have capital sitting idle and desire real estate exposure. This helped Stacy view capital raising as providing an opportunity for passive investors rather than needing funds herself. The pair has since helped many new investors overcome similar hurdles by reframing the ask as giving others a chance to put their money to work.
    [36:57] Setting Return Expectations
    Jen discussed the typical returns investors can expect when investing in deals with her and Stacy. While stabilized assets alone offer lower cash-on-cash returns around 5-8%, they target properties that also have value-add potential to increase cash flow and property value. This allows them to provide average annual returns on investment of 11.5-13.5% including eventual sale proceeds. 
    Resources Mentioned:
    Jay Conner
    Jen & Stacy Conkey

    • 53 min
    E40: Content Creators Clash: Coach Danny D vs Chay Fight to Create the Best Content

    E40: Content Creators Clash: Coach Danny D vs Chay Fight to Create the Best Content

    Video virtuosos Danny “Coach Danny D” DelVecchio and Chay Nott go head to head in the ultimate marketing showdown! 
    These two creative entrepreneurs know the power of video content but have very different approaches. Danny helps clients easily create video content for LinkedIn using virtual interviews, while Chay handles full physical production for e-commerce brands. 
    Tune in to see who emerges victorious in this epic clash of video business models!
    Here are some power takeaways from today’s conversation:
    00:00
    01:05 - Introducing for Danny and Chay
    05:25 - Dan and Chay’s career backgrounds
    13:18 - Round 2: Current business models for video content creation
    16:47 - How Danny’s virtual studio works
    25:23 - Round 3: Startup cost, challenges, and returns
    39:50 - Strategies for finding clients
    45:25 - Price points and finding their teams
     
    Episode Highlights:
    [05:25] About Dan and Chay
    Chay had no prior experience with cameras but used the pandemic downtime to intensely learn photography and videography skills on YouTube. He gained experience through many free early jobs of varying quality. Danny comes from a sales background and had an early podcast that taught him social media marketing. The podcast failed its second time, but he pivoted to coaching and saw opportunities in video content creation for clients.
    [13:18] Round 2: Their Current Business Models for Video Content Creation
    Danny runs a virtual studio model, conducting research-based interviews with clients and handing off editing. He shares pricing ranges from $1,000 for a starter package, up to $8,000 for premium clients. Chay handles full physical production for e-commerce brands, managing all aspects from locations to post-production. He works with brands doing $2.5-3M annually and prices his packages from $5,000-10,000 depending on content needs. Danny finds most clients through organic LinkedIn engagement, while Chay leverages the platform plus word-of-mouth and location-based Instagram hashtags.
    [25:23] Round 3: Startup Cost, Challenges, Risks, and Returns
    Danny and Chay both note client budget constraints and finding competent freelance help as the major challenges they face in running their video companies.  Danny shares that clients often see video as a luxury rather than a necessity. Chay has invested more heavily in equipment due to physical production needs. While each has considered hiring employees, risks remain. They've relied on social media and referrals to build contractor networks. Dan and Chay are both optimistic that quality video content could deliver high returns in building brands and sales if marketed effectively.
    Resources Mentioned:
    Danny’s website: https://www.coachdannyd.com

    • 1 hr 10 min
    E39: How to Protect Your Real Estate Investments with Jeremy Goodrich

    E39: How to Protect Your Real Estate Investments with Jeremy Goodrich

    Are you looking to maximize returns while protecting your commercial real estate investments? 
    In this episode of In the Champion’s Corner, commercial real estate and insurance expert Jeremy Goodrich discusses the ins and outs of CRE investing. Jeremy shares his unique journey from elementary school teacher to insurance advisor for large CRE portfolios. He offers invaluable insights into risk management strategies, agency compliance, and navigating the changing insurance landscape. 
    Learn how to properly assess insurance needs for deals, avoid costly surprises at closing, and maximize returns over the long run. Tune in to hear Jeremy's advice on partnering with the right insurance professional, setting clear standards, and achieving financial freedom through entrepreneurship. 
    Here are some power takeaways from today’s conversation:
    00:00
    01:39 - Jeremey’s career background
    03:45 - The value of prioritizing risk management
    06:57 - Understanding agency compliance requirements
    09:57 - Finding the right insurance agent
    12:07 - The cost of cheap insurance
    16:47 - Insurance rate increases and their impact on multifamily property investments
    20:29 - Insurance claims and losses due to hail damage
    29:21 - How local factors impact underwriting deals
    35:13 - A mindset shift towards financial freedom
    43:12 - The keys to running a business successfully with your spouse
     
    Episode Highlights:
    [03:45] Prioritizing Risk Management and Tenant Safety for Optimal Returns
    Jeremy emphasizes the importance of leading a discussion around risk management when engaging investors as an insurance advisor. He wants to ensure the safety of tenants, properties, and the investor's finances. By taking a proactive approach to risk management, an investor can achieve a better return on their sleep by knowing their assets are protected, as well as a better overall ROI. 
    [06:57] Understanding Agency Compliance Requirements
    Jeremy discusses agency compliance for Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac loans. Inexperienced agents sometimes provide cheap estimates without understanding guidelines. This often causes problems at closing. Jeremy ensures compliance upfront to avoid any insurance issues delaying the closing process, emphasizing that agents need experience with agency debt to submit compliant policies for a seamless closing.
    [09:57] Finding the Right Insurance Agent for Your CRE Needs
    When assessing which insurance agent is right, Jeremy recommends they be a specialist in commercial real estate who understands the industry from both an investing and advisory perspective. It's important they can explain complex insurance concepts simply and have relationships with multiple carriers so they can access the best options for clients rather than being limited to one company. Trust also plays a key role, as investors need to feel confident relying on an agent's expertise and recommendations.
    [12:07] The Cost of Cheap Insurance
    Jeremy shares a story of a client who chose a cheaper insurance policy over his own more expensive quote, saving $15,000 annually but having major coverage gaps. The property suffered a $500,000 loss from a fire six months later, and the client only received a $150,000 payout versus the near $500,000 they would have gotten with Jeremy's policy due to its more robust coverage. This illustrates how opting for a low price can end up costing significantly more in the long run if a claim occurs.
    [29:21] How Local Factors Impact Underwriting Deals
    When underwriting deals, it's important to understand how local insurance market dynamics in a specific area may impact costs. Jeremy notes factors like weather events, replacement costs, and litigation environment can vary significantly between regions. Properly assessing these local considerations is crucial for accurately gauging insurance expenses when underwriting a property in a given market.
    Resources Mentioned:
    https://creclarity.com/ 

    • 52 min
    E38: Ground-Up Development vs. Renovations: Which Is the Best Investment?

    E38: Ground-Up Development vs. Renovations: Which Is the Best Investment?

    In this episode, real estate investors Brandon Cobb and Alec Beardhall go head-to-head to compare the alternative investment opportunities of land development versus multifamily real estate. Brandon highlights the flexibility and multiple exit options of land investing whereas Alec notes the tax benefits and passive income potential of multifamily deals. 
    Hear how Brandon forces value through rezoning vacant parcels while Alec increases rents and occupancy on apartment complexes. Get the inside scoop on these alternative investment strategies and learn which model comes out on top.
    Here are some power takeaways from today’s conversation:
    00:00
    02:23 - Brandon and Alec’s backgrounds
    10:14 - How apartment syndication works
    14:29 - Four strategies for forcing land value growth
    19:00 - The benefits of pre-selling developed land
    22:32 - Ways to find their best deals
    25:30 - Benefits: Land investing vs. multifamily investing
    39:00 - The importance of investor experience
    41:37 - Multifamily and development operations and investor communications
    Episode Highlights:
    [10:16] How Apartment Syndication Works
    Alec explains how High Country Capital Partners does apartment syndication: they bring their own capital plus investor funds to purchase large apartment complexes. This allows individual investors to own real estate without hassles. They focus on "light value add" deals from 50-480 units, typically from 1980-2010. Investors receive 7-10% annual cash flow plus an equity payout when the property is later sold/refinanced.
    [14:29] Four Strategies for Forcing Land Value Growth
    Brandon outlines four ways to force appreciation in vacant land and extract value:
    Force-depreciate the value of the land through entitlements like rezoning, then sell it to another developer for a profit.
    Get the land entitled with utilities/infrastructure in place, then contract and pre-sell it to an end buyer who provides a down payment to fund development.
    Develop the land yourself by building homes or commercial properties to sell.
    Develop it and hold it as a build-to-rent community, using a multifamily-style business model to generate ongoing rental income.
    [25:30] The Benefits of Land Investing
    Flexibility with multiple exit strategies like reselling to another developer or building and selling homes individually. This provides more options than renting out an apartment complex long-term. 
    Forced appreciation locks in land value upfront before purchasing. This protects investors from market forces that could impact a multifamily property, like rising interest rates.
    Investors can control 100% of the investment with no debt until development begins. This allows projects to be paused if needed rather than relying on bank financing.
    Land value is secured through entitlements and engineering work done ahead of time by the sponsor. This de-risks the investment compared to taking on a multifamily property requiring renovations.
    [30:27] The Benefits of Multifamily Investing
    Alec highlights two main benefits of investing in multifamily real estate:
    Cashflow: Investors receive a passive, recurring return of 6-8% through quarterly distributions. This provides ongoing income without needing to actively manage the property.
    Tax benefits: Large tax breaks are available through depreciation deductions and cost segregation studies. These can help offset other sources of income for investors. The government incentivizes multifamily investing through these tax advantages.
    Resources Mentioned:
    Alec Beardall and Multifamily Investing: High Country Capital Partners
    Brandon Cobb: HBG Capital 
    For a free e-book: Education Recourses - HBG Capital

    • 57 min

Customer Reviews

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6 Ratings

Chay Nott ,

Fantastic Format!!

As a guest on this show, this format strikes top great conversation between multiple different business owners and perspectives! A cool listen for anyone who wants to find an interesting business to dive into.

DannyDVR ,

Such a Cool Concept!

I recently discovered Cashflow Fight Club and was blown away by the concept of having two business owners in the same niche square off in competition for the better business model. It’s also flawlessly executed by the hosts by Mike and Ligia. Their questions are relevant and helpful to any listener who wants to level up their business. ✌️

KBHHCG ,

This show is a must listen!

Incredible guests, stellar content, and the host are the most amazing people. Whether you’re listening to level up your investment strategies, or need a healthy dose of inspiration to climb to the next level of success in your business, you will find it here.

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