Decidedly I Decision Tips for Business Owners

Sanger Smith and Shawn Smith
Decidedly I Decision Tips for Business Owners

Defeating bad decision-making for family business owners, so you can improve their health, wealth, and relationships.

  1. 11H AGO

    She Grew Up Trapped on a Boat And Became a Global CEO | Suzanne Heywood’s Untold Story // Ep 165 REPLAY

    What if your childhood was a prison disguised as adventure? In this gripping episode of Decidedly, Suzanne Heywood shares the shocking true story of growing up trapped on a sailboat for nearly a decade—with no friends, no school, and no way out. Her parents set off to “follow Captain Cook,” but what began as a three-year journey turned into a cult-like isolation across the oceans. At just 16, Suzanne made a bold escape, taught herself through mail-order courses, and earned a place at Oxford University. Today, she’s the COO of Exor—one of Europe’s most powerful holding companies. 🎧 Suzanne reveals: The psychological toll of her unconventional upbringing What it took to escape and reinvent her life How education became her lifeline Her philosophy on decision-making and leadership Why resilience—not privilege—is the ultimate advantage If you’ve ever felt stuck in someone else’s story, this conversation will remind you: your life is yours to rewrite. CHAPTERS 00:00 Intro: Defeating Bad Decision-Making in Life andBusiness  00:50 When Sanger Lived on Ramen  03:13 Introducing Suzanne Heywood  04:21 Suzanne’s Family’s Decision to Sail Around theWorld  06:37 Early Childhood Questions About the Voyage  09:00 Suzanne’s Father’s Motivation for the Voyage  11:25 Questionable Parental Decisions 13:41 Dangers and Limited Food on the Boat  16:04 Life at Sea: Loneliness, Limited Friendships, andSchooling  18:28 Food Shortages 20:46 Stuck on the Boat 23:10 A Manipulated “Vote” to Keep Sailing 32:55 Education as Suzanne’s Escape from the Boat  40:01 Limited Communication and CorrespondenceChallenges  47:08 Sacrifices Made to Pursue Education  49:33 Struggles of University Life and Financial Hardships  51:56 Suzanne’s Reflections on Parental Choices andFinancial Strain  57:26 Suzanne Heywood’s Decision-Making Tip for Business Owners  57:48 Key Takeaways  59:47 Message from the Producer   CONNECT WITH US ⁠⁠www.decidedlypodcast.com⁠⁠ ⁠Watch this episode on YouTube⁠ Subscribe on ⁠⁠YouTube⁠ Join us on ⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠: @decidedlypodcast Join us on ⁠⁠Facebook⁠⁠ Shawn’s ⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠: @shawn_d_smith Sanger’s ⁠Instagram⁠⁠: @sangersmith    Thank you to Shelby Peterson of Transcend Media for editing and post-production of the Decidedly podcast.   SANGER’S BOOK: ⁠⁠A Life Rich with Significance: Transforming Your Wealth to Meaningful Impact⁠⁠   SHAWN’S BOOK: ⁠⁠Plateau Jumping: What to Change When Change Is What You Want⁠⁠   MAKING A FINANCIAL DECISION? At ⁠⁠Decidedly Wealth Management⁠⁠, we focus on decision-making as the foundational element of success, in our effort to empower families to purposefully apply their wealth to fulfill their values and build a thriving legacy.  LEARN MORE: ⁠⁠www.decidedlywealth.com⁠⁠   SUBSCRIBE TO THE NEWSLETTER:⁠⁠ https://visitor.r20.constantcontact.com/manage/optin?v=001aeU_pPBHJPNJWJBdVbaci6bjGIuEJurH12xHBWDEVT_NxyCadMd7wLSZjcEZglkSjDjehuIbTHD8nABOIdV69ctfYpSzg24RCIytetBUrlIPPKgaGzjGZ8DkM0Wp1LMjbErcYUur7PbZGjeVo4gyXlz821AoJGZR⁠⁠      CONNECT WITH SUZANNE HEYWOOD Website: ⁠www.suzanneheywood.com⁠ LinkedIn:⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/suzanneheywood⁠ Facebook: ⁠www.facebook.com/suzanne.heywood⁠ Instagram: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/suzanneheywood1⁠ Suzanne Heywood’s story is anything but typical. At just seven years old, she was pulled from her home and set adrift on a small yacht with her family, facing ten years of brutal storms, danger, and isolation on the world’s most unforgiving oceans. It’s a tale of grit and survival that shaped her into the powerhouse she is today. Now a respected business leader, Suzanne is here to share her wild, unfiltered journey, captured in her memoir, Wavewalker.

    1h 14m
  2. JUL 2

    Ep. 187: Deciding to Communicate Like a Leader: Coaching, Trust, and the Questions That Change Everything with Abigail Doust

    What if the key to better decisions, stronger relationships, and real leadership… isn’t having the right answers, but asking better questions? In this episode of Decidedly, we sit down with Abigail Doust—coach, trainer, speaker, and lifelong student of communication—to unpack the underrated power of listening, how to navigate hard conversations, and why most people are asking the wrong questions in business and in life. From her background in theater and pastoral care to coaching high-performing teams, Abigail reveals why great communication starts with self-awareness, emotional intelligence, and knowing what not to say. If you've ever found yourself fumbling through a conversation, giving too much advice, or wondering how to actually connect—this one’s for you. KEY TOPICS What most people get wrong about “good communication” How to ask open-ended questions that unlock real insight Practical coaching tools for entrepreneurs, leaders, and parents How to communicate with different personality types Why “Tell me more” is the most underused phrase in business How to create trust without saying much at all The psychology behind reflective listening Tips for navigating conflict with emotional intelligence When to use coaching vs. consulting in a conversation CHAPTERS 00:00 Introduction 01:05 Embracing Uncertainty and Taking Risks 04:10 The Art of Asking Better Questions 04:56 The Power of Words and Communication 17:45 Understanding Personality Types in Communication 28:51 The Power of 'Tell Me More' 29:43 Understanding Different Perspectives on Freedom 31:22 Reflective Listening and Effective Communication 32:19 The Importance of Open-Ended Questions 35:36 Unpacking Intrinsic Motivation 38:46 Building Trust Through Deep Questions 50:37 The Value of Authenticity in Business 51:47 Decision-Making Tips for Business Owners CONNECT WITH US www.decidedlypodcast.com  Join us on Instagram: www.instagram.com/decidedlypodcast  Join us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/decidedlypodcast  Shawn’s Instagram: www.instagram.com/shawn_d_smith  Sanger’s Instagram: www.instagram.com/sangersmith MAKING A FINANCIAL DECISION? At Decidedly Wealth Management, we focus on decision-making as the foundational element of success, in our effort to empower families to purposefully apply their wealth to fulfill their values and build a thriving legacy. LEARN MORE www.decidedlywealth.com SUBSCRIBE TO OUR WEEKLY DECISION-MAKING TIP EMAIL Join us every Wednesday for more strategies to DEFEAT bad decision-making - one episode at a time! CONNECT WITH ABIGAIL Website: https://equippingforimpact.com/  Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/EquippingforImpact/   Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/equippingforimpact/?hl=en  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/abigail-doust-impact/  Abigail Doust is a certified coach, speaker, author, and trainer dedicated to equipping leaders to lead with impact. With a background in communication, theater, and pastoral care, she brings a unique blend of heart and strategy to her coaching and training. Abigail works with individuals, teams, and marriages to foster growth, deepen connection, and navigate meaningful change. She’s an ICF Associate Certified Coach, DISC Consultant, and passionate lifelong learner. When she’s not coaching, Abigail enjoys musicals, long walks, great coffee, and spending time with her husband and their four kids.

    56 min
  3. JUN 23

    Ep. 186: Deciding to Hike Your Own Hike: Lessons from the Trail About Business, Belonging, and Becoming

    What does a 500-mile trek through Spain, a rain-soaked trail in Scotland, and a solo summit in Colorado have to do with building a meaningful life or business? In this episode, we share the unexpected lessons learned from long-distance hikes, Ironman races, and conversations on the trail — and how they mirror the journey of entrepreneurship, leadership, and self-discovery. From the spiritual silence of the Camino de Santiago to the muddy mess of the West Highland Way, this isn’t just a story about hiking — it’s about purpose, progress, and the people who walk beside us (or don’t). If you’ve ever felt like the finish line didn’t fulfill you… this one’s for you. KEY TOPICS “Hike your own hike”: What this means for life, business, and ignoring the noise Why the journey is the reward — not the goal or the finish line What hiking in the rain teaches us about embracing discomfort The real reason entrepreneurs hesitate to sell their businesses How solitude reveals what you’re actually chasing The power of walking with the right people, not just anyone The Camino de Santiago’s secret economy, sacred history, and soul-deep meaning How to follow the right signs — and know when someone else’s path isn’t yours CHAPTERS 00:00 Introduction 00:51 Hiking in Scotland: The West Highland Way 02:18 Hiking Etiquette and Annoyances 03:28 Conquering Colorado's Fourteeners 07:51 The Spiritual Journey of the Camino de Santiago 14:44 The History and Experience of the West Highland Way 16:54 Group Hiking Dynamics 20:35 The Pressure to Grow in Business 21:07 Redefining Success: Progress Over Growth 21:50 A Lesson from the Parish Priest 22:56 Zappos' Unique Hiring Practice 23:59 The Importance of Human Connection 27:17 The Journey is the Reward 33:53 Lessons from Hiking 38:31 Embracing Hardship 41:21 Final Thoughts on Hiking and Life CONNECT WITH US www.decidedlypodcast.com  Join us on Instagram: www.instagram.com/decidedlypodcast  Join us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/decidedlypodcast  Shawn’s Instagram: www.instagram.com/shawn_d_smith  Sanger’s Instagram: www.instagram.com/sangersmith MAKING A FINANCIAL DECISION? At Decidedly Wealth Management, we focus on decision-making as the foundational element of success, in our effort to empower families to purposefully apply their wealth to fulfill their values and build a thriving legacy. LEARN MORE www.decidedlywealth.com SUBSCRIBE TO OUR WEEKLY DECISION-MAKING TIP EMAIL Join us every Wednesday for more strategies to DEFEAT bad decision-making - one episode at a time!

    42 min
  4. JUN 18

    Deciding to Make Tough Calls: Leading Well When Stakes are High with Matthew Confer | REPLAY Ep.170

    Are your business decisions driven by instinct, or by strategy? How often do you actually stop to tell the difference? Matthew Confer, the mind behind decision-making simulations used by leading companies, reveals why your gut might betray you, what most leaders get wrong under pressure, and how to sharpen your instincts for critical decisions.   KEY TOPICS The bold move leaders can make to avoid catastrophic mistakes before they happen.Why seeking consensus isn’t the best leadership strategy—and what to do instead.The real reason confident leaders fail under pressure.How keeping receipts on decisions can save your team from chaos.  CHAPTERS 00:00 Intro: Defeating Bad Decision-Making in Life and Business  00:49 Changing Wedding Language: Patriarchy or Progress? 03:06 Can Simulations Make You a Better Leader? 05:32 The Dangerous Default in Team Decisions 06:50 Why Consensus Isn’t Always King 08:01 How Leaders Sabotage Innovation Without Realizing It 10:21 What Really Drives Your Team? 12:40 Adapting Management Styles: The Secret to Better Teams 15:05 Leadership Practice Without the Real-World Risk 17:26 Breaking Through Superficial Motivations 19:30 The Challenge of Scaling a Small Company Culture 21:54 Why Diverse Motivations Strengthen Teams 24:14 Spotting Failure Before It Happens 26:36 The Viral Social Media Campaign Dilemma 29:00 The Cobra Problem: When Solutions Make Things Worse 31:16 The $5 Challenge That Changed Business Strategy 33:33 The Power of Writing Down Decisions 35:53 How Poor Note-Taking Derails Teams 38:32 How Stress Wrecks Decision-Making—And How to Stop It 40:51 Why Your Most Disagreeable Employee Makes the Hard Calls 43:07 Why Failure Is the Best Leadership Teacher 45:32 Building Leadership Confidence in Safe Environments 47:51 When Bravado Backfires in Decision-Making 50:08 Are You Missing Critical Team Feedback? 52:32 What MBA Simulations Reveal About Leadership Gaps 54:51 The Secret Ingredient to Engaging Training Programs 56:53 Matthew Confer’s Decision-Making Tip for Business Owners  58:20 Key Takeaways  59:45 Message from the Producer   CONNECT WITH US ⁠⁠www.decidedlypodcast.com⁠⁠ ⁠WATCH THIS EPISODE ON YOUTUBE⁠ Subscribe on ⁠⁠YouTube⁠ Join us on ⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠: @decidedlypodcast Join us on ⁠⁠Facebook⁠⁠ Shawn’s ⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠: @shawn_d_smith Sanger’s ⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠: @sangersmith   Thank you to Shelby Peterson of Transcend Media for editingand post-production of the Decidedly podcast.   SANGER’S BOOK: ⁠⁠A Life Rich with Significance: Transforming Your Wealth to Meaningful Impact⁠⁠   SHAWN’S BOOK: ⁠⁠Plateau Jumping: What to Change When Change Is What You Want⁠⁠   MAKING A FINANCIAL DECISION? At ⁠⁠Decidedly Wealth Management⁠⁠, we focus on decision-making as the foundational element of success, in our effort to empower families to purposefully apply their wealth to fulfill their values and build a thriving legacy.  LEARN MORE: ⁠⁠www.decidedlywealth.com⁠⁠   ⁠SUBSCRIBE TO THE NEWSLETTER⁠   CONNECT WITH MATT CONFER Website: ⁠https://www.abilitie.com/matthew-confer/⁠ LinkedIn: ⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/matthewconfer/⁠ TEDx Talk:  ⁠https://www.ted.com/talks/matthew_confer_before_you_decide_3_steps_to_better_decision_making?subtitle=en⁠ Learn To Lead Podcast: ⁠https://www.abilitie.com/learn-to-lead-podcast/⁠ Matt Confer is the VP of Strategy at Abilitie, a Leadership Development company based in Austin, Texas that provides immersive business simulations to a global client base that includes over 50 members of the Fortune 500. Abilitie’s leadership programs have been delivered to over 100,000 professionals in more than 30 countries around the world. Matthew has spoken on the topic of decision making at the TEDx Conference with a talk entitled "Before You Decide" that has been viewed over 500,000 times on the TED website.

    1 hr
  5. JUN 11

    Deciding to be Surrounded by Idiots: Thomas Erikson on Personality Types, Self-Awareness, and Better Team Building // Ep. 151 REPLAY

    What if the real reason your team can’t get along... is you? In this mind-shifting episode, international best-selling author and human behavior expert Thomas Erikson (yes, the guy behind Surrounded by Idiots) joins Decidedly to decode how understanding personality types can transform your business, relationships, and leadership style. Using the DISC model—Red, Yellow, Green, and Blue—Thomas explains why some people drive you crazy, how to stop sabotaging your own leadership, and what it really takes to build a thriving, cohesive team. Whether you're scaling a company, leading a team, or navigating family dynamics, this conversation will help you understand yourself and others with clarity, compassion, and maybe a little humor. KEY TOPICS What the DISC personality model really means—and how to identify your type Why you might be the one creating conflict on your team (yep, even with good intentions) How impatience, perfectionism, or avoidance can sabotage decision-making The difference between personality traits and internal motivators—and why both matter in hiring How to build a diverse team without sacrificing unity or performance Why “winning” isn’t always the goal—and what actually keeps people motivated What happens when family and business collide (and how Thomas makes it work) How self-awareness becomes your secret weapon in leadership and life CHAPTERS 00:00 Intro 00:53 Understanding Different Motivations 03:55 Guest Introduction: Thomas Erickson 04:36 The DISC Assessment Explained 11:38 Self-Awareness and Leadership 17:56 Building Effective Teams 21:14 Recruitment and Internal Drivers 26:43 Personal Stories and Reflections 31:04 Balancing Competing Ideas 34:50 The Importance of Motivation in Business 36:35 Constructive Competition 43:21 Defining Success and Legacy 49:10 Aligning Family Business Goals 59:51 Decision Making Tips for Business Owners 01:02:23 Final Thoughts and Takeaways CONNECT WITH US ⁠⁠www.decidedlypodcast.com⁠⁠ Watch this episode on ⁠YouTube⁠! Subscribe on ⁠⁠YouTube⁠⁠ Join us on ⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠: @decidedlypodcast Join us on ⁠⁠Facebook⁠⁠ Shawn’s ⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠: @shawn_d_smith Sanger’s ⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠: @sangersmith SANGER’S BOOK: ⁠⁠A Life Rich with Significance: Transforming Your Wealth to Meaningful Impact⁠⁠ SHAWN’S BOOK: ⁠⁠Plateau Jumping: What to Change When Change Is What You Want⁠⁠  MAKING A FINANCIAL DECISION? At ⁠⁠Decidedly Wealth Management⁠⁠, we focus on decision-making as the foundational element of success, in our effort to empower families to purposefully apply their wealth to fulfill their values and build a thriving legacy.  LEARN MORE: ⁠⁠www.decidedlywealth.com⁠⁠ SUBSCRIBE TO THE NEWSLETTER:⁠⁠ https://visitor.r20.constantcontact.com/manage/optin?v=001aeU_pPBHJPNJWJBdVbaci6bjGIuEJurH12xHBWDEVT_NxyCadMd7wLSZjcEZglkSjDjehuIbTHD8nABOIdV69ctfYpSzg24RCIytetBUrlIPPKgaGzjGZ8DkM0Wp1LMjbErcYUur7PbZGjeVo4gyXlz821AoJGZR⁠⁠    CONNECT WITH THOMAS ERIKSON Website: ⁠https://www.surroundedbyidiots.com/en/⁠ Books: ⁠https://www.surroundedbyidiots.com/en/books/⁠ Instagram: @thomaseriksonwriter  Thomas Erikson is a behaviorist and the bestselling author of the Surrounded By series about human behaviors. The series has been translated into close to 60 languages and has sold over 8 million copies.  His mission is to make people’s lives easier by making them more aware of themselves and helping them better understand what it takes to achieve the best possible communication.  He is a highly sought-after public speaker, giving 120 keynote speeches annually on topics such as human behaviors, self-awareness, narcissism, and leadership.  Thomas is a mentor to top-level executives and entrepreneurs all over Europe. He lives by the simple quote: You can’t change somebody else, but you can change yourself.

    1h 4m
  6. JUN 4

    Deciding to Expose the Fine Print: Government Claims on Medical Products w/ @justtheinserts // Ep. 166 REPLAY

    What if the most important medical information was hiding in plain sight? In this eye-opening replay of Ep. 166, we sit down with Alexandra, the powerhouse behind @justtheinserts, to uncover what pharmaceutical companies and government agencies actually disclose—if you know where to look. From vaccine inserts and adverse reaction data to the legal loopholes that protect drug manufacturers, this conversation digs deep into the fine print most patients never read. Whether you’re a parent making decisions for your kids, a business owner evaluating health policies, or just tired of being in the dark, this episode will give you tools to ask better questions and make more informed choices. KEY TOPICS What a “manufacturer insert” actually is—and why you should always read it Why Alexandra started @justtheinserts (and how one personal experience changed everything) What the FDA and CDC do and don’t tell you about side effects The risks listed for common drugs like DTaP, Vitamin K, and RSV vaccines Why informed consent matters more now than ever How to advocate for yourself and your family in a rushed healthcare system The surprising connection between pharmaceutical marketing and legal immunity How to build the skill of decisional independence in health and business CHAPTERS 00:00 Introduction  06:23 Alexandra's Journey and Instagram Success 11:14 Understanding Medical Inserts 15:43 Personal Experiences with Pharmaceuticals 22:21 Challenges and Criticisms in Medical Research 31:10 Discussing the Book and Training Course 32:10 Informed Consent and Doctor-Patient Dynamics 34:32 Vaccine Shedding and Its Implications 37:44 Breakthrough Infections and Vaccine Efficacy 38:49 Shocking Discoveries in Vaccine Inserts 40:18 Personal Stories and Pharmaceutical Industry Insights 47:22 Navigating Doctor's Recommendations and Informed Consent 54:01 Challenges in the Medical System 01:01:24 Conclusion and Final Thoughts CONNECT WITH US www.decidedlypodcast.com  Join us on Instagram: www.instagram.com/decidedlypodcast  Join us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/decidedlypodcast  Shawn’s Instagram: www.instagram.com/shawn_d_smith  Sanger’s Instagram: www.instagram.com/sangersmith SANGER’S BOOK: ⁠A Life Rich with Significance: Transforming Your Wealth to Meaningful Impact⁠ SHAWN’S BOOK: ⁠Plateau Jumping: What to Change When Change Is What You Want⁠ MAKING A FINANCIAL DECISION? At Decidedly Wealth Management, we focus on decision-making as the foundational element of success, in our effort to empower families to purposefully apply their wealth to fulfill their values and build a thriving legacy. LEARN MORE www.decidedlywealth.com SUBSCRIBE TO OUR WEEKLY DECISION-MAKING TIP EMAIL Join us every Wednesday for more strategies to DEFEAT bad decision-making - one episode at a time! CONNECT WITH ALEXANDRA FROM @JUSTTHEINSERTS Website: https://www.justtheinserts.com Instagram: @justtheinserts Well Considered: A Handbook for Making Informed Medical Decisions: https://www.justtheinserts.com/shop/ Alexandra, the founder of Just the Inserts, provides training and resources for patients and parents to make informed decisions about medical products. Sourced from .gov websites, her book, training course, and website help you make informed medical decisions rooted in knowledge and confidence.

    1h 4m
  7. MAY 29

    Deciding to Get Out of a Rut: Practical Strategies for Getting Unstuck // Ep. 136 REPLAY

    Ever feel like you're spinning your wheels, stuck in the same place despite your efforts? In this episode, hosts Shawn and Sanger delve into the practical strategies to help you break free from life's ruts and reignite your momentum.  Drawing from their extensive experience in decision-making and personal development, they introduce the "5 Levers of Change": Systems, Goals, Habits, Relationships, and Beliefs. Through insightful discussions and real-life examples, you'll discover how to identify which lever to pull to catalyze meaningful change. Whether you're facing stagnation in your career, personal life, or mindset, this episode offers actionable steps to help you move forward with clarity and purpose. If you've ever asked yourself, "How do I get unstuck and make lasting changes?" — this is the episode to press play on. KEY TOPICS Understanding the 5 Levers of Change: Systems, Goals, Habits, Relationships, and Beliefs Recognizing when and how to adjust your goals effectively Implementing the Double Vision Exercise to explore necessary changes Overcoming resistance and embracing belief transformation Leveraging relationships to support your growth journey Practical tactics for goal setting and achieving transformation CHAPTERS 00:00 Introduction  00:53 A Hurried Morning 02:15 Introduction to Plateau Jumping 02:58 The Five Levers of Change 05:08 The Importance of Relationships 06:23 The Missing Lever: Beliefs 08:10 Applying the Five Levers 16:50 Challenging Traditional Goals 25:52 Double Vision Exercise Explained 27:04 Visualizing the Ideal Employee 30:14 Identifying the Easiest Goal 31:25 The Myth of the Harvard Study 35:51 The Power of Belief and Visualization 39:30 Challenging Established Beliefs 47:17 The Importance of Visualization in Goal Setting 48:46 Where to Find the Book 49:04 Closing Remarks and Credits CONNECT WITH US www.decidedlypodcast.com  Join us on Instagram: www.instagram.com/decidedlypodcast  Join us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/decidedlypodcast  Shawn’s Instagram: www.instagram.com/shawn_d_smith  Sanger’s Instagram: www.instagram.com/sangersmith SANGER’S BOOK: ⁠A Life Rich with Significance: Transforming Your Wealth to Meaningful Impact⁠ SHAWN’S BOOK: ⁠Plateau Jumping: What to Change When Change Is What You Want⁠ MAKING A FINANCIAL DECISION? At Decidedly Wealth Management, we focus on decision-making as the foundational element of success, in our effort to empower families to purposefully apply their wealth to fulfill their values and build a thriving legacy. LEARN MORE www.decidedlywealth.com SUBSCRIBE TO OUR WEEKLY DECISION-MAKING TIP EMAIL Join us every Wednesday for more strategies to DEFEAT bad decision-making - one episode at a time!

    50 min
  8. MAY 21

    Deciding to Ask Bigger Questions: Spencer Klavan on Science, Faith & Building a Meaningful Business // REPLAY

    What’s the real point of your business — and your life? In this mind-opening conversation, scholar and cultural commentator Spencer Klavan joins host Sanger Smith to explore one of the most overlooked foundations in entrepreneurship: God. Spencer, associate editor of the Claremont Review of Books and host of Young Heretics, draws from ancient philosophy, Western civilization, and his own theological lens to examine what happens when faith, science, and leadership intersect. Whether you’re leading a company, raising a family, or just trying to figure out why the world feels so off lately — this conversation pulls back the curtain on the real questions we’re all wrestling with. This episode isn’t just philosophical — it’s deeply practical. It's a wake-up call for any leader building something on shaky ground. If you’ve ever asked yourself, “Is there more to this than money, metrics, and growth?” — this is the episode to press play on. KEY TOPICS Why you can’t separate science from theology — and why that matters for leaders today How the Protestant Reformation and the Scientific Revolution were asking the same question: “What is truth?” Why the collapse of secularism is fueling a spiritual hunger in business, culture, and everyday life The rise of AI, the myth of human replacement, and the eternal longing tech can’t fill What Russell Brand, Ion Hirsi Ali, and modern seekers reveal about the return to faith The role of humility in leadership — and how to be the mentor people run to at 2AM Why the telos (final cause) of your company may be the most important question you’re not asking CHAPTERS 00:00 Introduction  01:20 The Role of Theology in Business 03:31 Scientific Revolution and Religion 07:21 Philosophy and Science Intertwined 17:02 Modern Atheism and Its Decline 21:02 Spirituality in Business Leadership 30:01 Defining True Christianity 32:09 Debating the Apostle Creed 33:02 Historical Context of Christian Creeds 34:39 Modern Converts and Cultural Christianity 36:37 Stages of Faith Development 38:56 Challenges in Faith and Personal Responsibility 47:21 The Role of Technology in Faith 53:00 Final Thoughts and Leadership Insights CONNECT WITH US www.decidedlypodcast.com  Join us on Instagram: www.instagram.com/decidedlypodcast  Join us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/decidedlypodcast  Shawn’s Instagram: www.instagram.com/shawn_d_smith  Sanger’s Instagram: www.instagram.com/sangersmith MAKING A FINANCIAL DECISION? At Decidedly Wealth Management, we focus on decision-making as the foundational element of success, in our effort to empower families to purposefully apply their wealth to fulfill their values and build a thriving legacy. LEARN MORE www.decidedlywealth.com SUBSCRIBE TO OUR WEEKLY DECISION-MAKING TIP EMAIL Join us every Wednesday for more strategies to DEFEAT bad decision-making - one episode ata time! CONNECT WITH SPENCER KLAVAN Instagram: @sklavan Facebook: ⁠https://www.facebook.com/SpencerAKlavan/⁠ LinkedIn: ⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/spencer-klavan-0a963631/⁠ ⁠How to Save the West: Ancient Wisdom for 5 Modern Crises⁠ ⁠Light of the Mind, Light of the World: How New Science is Illuminating Ancient Truths About God⁠ The New Jerusalem Substack: ⁠https://thenewjerusalem.substack.com/⁠ Rejoice Evermore Substack: ⁠https://rejoiceevermore.substack.com/⁠ Podcast: ⁠https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/young-heretics/id1513602173⁠  Spencer Klavan is a scholar, associate editor of the Claremont Review of Books, and host of the Young Heretics podcast. A graduate of Yale, he earned his doctorate in ancient Greek literature from Oxford University.   Spencer’s deep understanding of the roots of Western civilization makes him a trustworthy guide for navigating our evolving culture, and what we can do to help. His analysis: The situation is dire. But every crisis we face today we have faced—and surmounted—before.

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