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Decoder is a new show from The Verge about big ideas — and other problems. Verge editor-in-chief Nilay Patel talks to a diverse cast of innovators and policymakers at the frontiers of business and technology to reveal how they’re navigating an ever-changing landscape, what keeps them up at night, and what it all means for our shared future.

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Decoder is a new show from The Verge about big ideas — and other problems. Verge editor-in-chief Nilay Patel talks to a diverse cast of innovators and policymakers at the frontiers of business and technology to reveal how they’re navigating an ever-changing landscape, what keeps them up at night, and what it all means for our shared future.

    How Jeep is going electric, with CEO Christian Meunier

    How Jeep is going electric, with CEO Christian Meunier

    This week we are talking to Jeep CEO Christian Meunier – and there’s a lot to talk about. Jeep just announced its second hybrid electric vehicle in the US, the Grand Cherokee 4xe. It also announced a plan for its first electric car in 2023, and to have EVs across the line by 2025, which is very soon. And it’s now part of a huge global car company called Stellantis.
    So I wanted to know: why start with hybrids, instead of jumping straight to EVs? What does it mean to be the CEO of a brand like Jeep inside of of a huge international company like Stellantis? How does the Jeep team make decisions about features and technology, and how much do they have to defer to a larger parent company? And what does it mean for Jeep, one of the most iconic American car brands, to be part of a huge global company now?
    Christian and I talked about all of that, as well as how the chip shortage is affecting Jeep, what cars will look like in 2040, and Jeep’s use of the name “Cherokee” in 2021.
    Yeah, this interview goes places.

    Links:
    The first plug-in hybrid Jeep Grand Cherokee is here
    Tested: 2021 Jeep Wrangler 4xe Complicates a Simple Machine
    2021 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited Rubicon 4xe: A Hybrid That Comes Up Short
    The electric Mustang Mach-E takes Ford in a whole new direction
    Jeep Badge of Honor App
    Jeep EV Day video

    Episode Transcript

    Credits:
    Today’s episode was produced by Creighton DeSimone, Alexander Charles Adams, and Andrew Marino. And we are edited by Callie Wright. Our music is by Breakmaster Cylinder. 
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    • 1 hr 14 min
    How Amazon runs Alexa, with Dave Limp

    How Amazon runs Alexa, with Dave Limp

    My guest today is Dave Limp, the senior vice president of devices and services at Amazon – or, more simply, the guy in charge of Alexa. Dave’s group at Amazon also includes the Kindle e-reader, the Ring and Blink security camera systems, the Eero wifi router, and a host of other products that connect to Amazon services. 
    We wanted to know what the business behind Alexa looks like — Amazon sells Echo products at basically break even, it runs the Alexa for all of them for free, and it employs thousands of engineers who work on it. How does that make money? How might it make money in the future? How should we think about Alexa competing with other smart assistants, and for what kinds of business? The answers were not what you’d expect.

    Links:
    Why the global chip shortage is making it so hard to buy a PS5
    Amazon's new Ring Alarm Pro combines a security system with an Eero Router
    Say Hello to Astro, Alexa on wheels
    Amazon is now accepting your applications for its home surveillance drone
    Amazon Glow is a video chat gadget with built-in games to keep kids engaged
    Amazon’s new Echo Show 15 is meant to hang on your wall
    Amazon’s new Kindle Paperwhite adds a bigger screen, longer battery life, and USB-C
    Amazon starts making its own TVs with new Fire TV Omni and 4-Series
    Amazon Fire TV Stick 4K Max review: the one to buy
    How to connect Alexa to Spotify, Apple Music, and more
    Amazon's race to create the disappearing computer

    Transcript: https://www.theverge.com/e/22483986

    Credits:
    This episode was produced by Creighton DeSimone, Alexander Charles Adams, and Andru Marino. And we are edited by Callie Wright. Our music is by Breakmaster Cylinder. 
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    • 1 hr 17 min
    Land of the Giants: This Changes Everything

    Land of the Giants: This Changes Everything

    In Land of the Giants: The Apple Revolution, Recode’s Peter Kafka explores the company that changed what a computer is — and then changed what a phone is. From its beginnings as a niche personal computer company, Apple became the preeminent maker of consumer tech products, a cultural trendsetter, and the most valuable company in the world. And along the way, it changed the way we live.

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    • 33 min
    Waymo co-CEO Tekedra Mawakana on how to get self-driving taxis to the mall

    Waymo co-CEO Tekedra Mawakana on how to get self-driving taxis to the mall

    Waymo is working on self-driving taxis. Which is a huge deal. Ridesharing apps like Uber and Lyft have remade cities, allowed people to give up their cars, and generally connected the buttons you push on your phone to real things happening in the world more directly than almost any other app. Nilay Patel talked to Tekedra Mawakana, co-CEO of Waymo, about expanding Waymo’s service to other cities, the hurdles in place, and how she thinks the company will make money over time. We also talked about the regulatory issues the industry faces as it tries to roll out self-driving more broadly, and whether things like Tesla’s “full self driving” are confusing the issue or helping it. 
    This was a really fun conversation made even better because we recorded it live, on stage at Code Conference.

    Links:
    Meet the self-driving brains working with Tesla and Ford https://www.theverge.com/22627847/argo-ai-bryan-salesky-decoder-interview-lyft-self-driving
     
    Ford CEO Jim Farley on building the electric F-150 -- and reinventing Ford 
    https://www.theverge.com/2021/5/20/22444294/ford-f150-lightning-pickup-truck-jim-farley-interview
     
    Waymo CEO John Krafcik steps down, replaced by two co-CEOs https://www.theverge.com/2021/4/2/22364317/waymo-ceo-john-krafcik-stepping-down-self-driving-cars-google-alphabet
     
    Riding in Waymo One, the Google spin-off’s first self-driving taxi service https://www.theverge.com/2018/12/5/18126103/waymo-one-self-driving-taxi-service-ride-safety-alphabet-cost-app
     
    Waymo starts offering autonomous rides in San Francisco https://www.theverge.com/2021/8/24/22639226/waymo-san-francisco-rides-self-driving-service
     
    Tesla opens ‘Full Self-Driving’ beta software to more customers https://www.theverge.com/2021/9/26/22693610/tesla-opens-full-self-driving-beta-software-more-customers
     
    Waymo’s self-driving cars are now available on Lyft’s app in Phoenix https://www.theverge.com/2019/5/7/18536003/waymo-lyft-self-driving-ride-hail-app-phoenix
     
    Google is spinning off its self-driving car program into a new company called Waymo https://www.theverge.com/2016/12/13/13936782/google-self-driving-car-waymo-spin-off-company
     
    Car companies will have to report automated vehicle crashes under new rules https://www.theverge.com/2021/6/29/22555666/nhtsa-autonomous-vehicle-crash-report-data

    Transcript:
    https://www.theverge.com/e/22472717

    Credits:
    Host - Nilay Patel
    Lead Producer - Creighton DeSimone
    Associate Producer - Alexander Charles Adams
    Sr Audio Director - Andrew Marino
    Editor - Callie Wright
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    • 36 min
    John Carreyrou’s final chapter on the Theranos scandal

    John Carreyrou’s final chapter on the Theranos scandal

    Nilay Patel talks to John Carreyrou about his reporting on Theranos from his Wall Street Journal articles that broke the scandal in 2015 to his podcast covering the trial of Elizabeth Holmes today.

    Links:
    Bad Blood: The Final Chapter https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/bad-blood-the-final-chapter/id1575738174

    Theranos’ greatest invention was Elizabeth Holmes https://www.theverge.com/22656190/theranos-elizabeth-holmes-wire-fraud-trial-founder-myth

    Elizabeth Holmes is on trial for fraud over her time at Theranos https://www.theverge.com/22684354/elizabeth-holmes-trial-wire-fraud-theranos

    Apple Podcasts launches in-app subscriptions https://www.theverge.com/2021/4/20/22381980/apple-podcasts-app-subscriptions-new-design

    Hot startup Theranos has struggled with its blood-test technology https://www.wsj.com/articles/theranos-has-struggled-with-blood-tests-1444881901

    *Tesla’s Autopilot was engaged when Model 3 crashed into truck, report states https://www.theverge.com/2019/5/16/18627766/tesla-autopilot-fatal-crash-delray-florida-ntsb-model-3
     
    Uber halts self-driving tests after pedestrian killed in Arizona https://www.theverge.com/2018/3/19/17139518/uber-self-driving-car-fatal-crash-tempe-arizona
     
    Elizabeth Holmes “was in charge” of Theranos, says Gen. Mattis https://www.theverge.com/2021/9/22/22689083/elizabeth-holmes-trial-james-mattis-testimony-theranos-fraud
     
    Theranos reaches settlement with investor Partner Fund Management https://techcrunch.com/2017/05/01/theranos-reaches-settlement-with-investor-partner-fund-management/
     
    Transcript:
    https://www.theverge.com/e/22461304

    Decoder is a production of The Verge, and part of the Vox Media Podcast Network. Today’s episode was produced by Creighton DeSimone, Alexander Charles Adams, and Andrew Marino. And we are edited by Callie Wright. Our music is by Breakmaster Cylinder. 
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    • 1 hr 2 min
    How F*ck You Pay Me is empowering creators

    How F*ck You Pay Me is empowering creators

    We talk a lot about the creator economy here on Decoder and one thing we’ve learned from all those conversations is that the creator economy is a market just like any other, with supply and demand, but that it’s also a market that is absolutely starved of information. So today I’m talking to Lindsey Lee Lugrin, the co-founder and CEO of a new platform called F**k You Pay Me, which is an all-time great company name. FYPM is an app for creators to review and compare brand deals: what brands are paying, what it’s like to work with them, and whether people would work with them again. It’s kind of like Glassdoor or Yelp for influencers.

    Links
    The quirks and features of YouTube car reviews with Doug DeMuro https://www.theverge.com/22637871/doug-demuro-car-reviews-youtube-decoder-interview

    Advertising is complicated, but Melissa Grady is very good at it https://www.theverge.com/22174582/decoder-podcast-interview-cadillac-cmo-melissa-grady-advertising

    YouTube chief product officer Neal Mohan on the algorithm, monetization, and the future for creators https://www.theverge.com/22606296/youtube-shorts-fund-neal-mohan-decoder-interview

    The App With the Unprintable Name That Wants to Give Power to Creators https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/02/technology/fypm-creators-app-pay.html

    Introduction to smart contracts 
    https://ethereum.org/en/developers/docs/smart-contracts/

    The golden age of YouTube is over 
    https://www.theverge.com/2019/4/5/18287318/youtube-logan-paul-pewdiepie-demonetization-adpocalypse-premium-influencers-creators


    Transcript
    https://www.theverge.com/e/22448278
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    • 1 hr 5 min

Customer Reviews

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0010010 ,

High Quality

Nilay is a superb interviewer. He obviously comes in prepared and informed, but he is willing to let a conversation flow and move in any direction if it’s interesting or relevant.

They pick interesting guests, but the conversations are more wide ranging than you would think from the episodes titles.

Tanker57 ,

FYPM was a good episode

L3 was a good guest and I’m positive will be a great CEO one day. She’s not quite polished yet but she has passion for making her niche in life the best it can be for her clients. I really enjoyed the interview and I thought Nilay was appropriately respectful of L3’s nervousness or inexperience. Keep up the good work and best to FYPM and team.

Tom Ressler ,

Nilay is great!

The host is superb, interesting guests, and interviews are informative and entertaining

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