Dismantling White Supremacy with Jill Nagle

Olive You Whole

A lot of white people are quite hesitant to start a conversation about white supremacy. Either they don’t know how to get started or they’re nervous about the backlash of being anti-racist from Black people or other races. 

In this episode, Jill Nagle, the co-owner of Evolutionary Workplace, joins us to discuss how we can dismantle the white supremacy mythology. Jill makes this important point of how white supremacy only hijacks part of our humanity. It corrupts our willingness and ability to look at hard truths. Whiteness only exists socially, because there is no biological basis for the distinction among races. We all belong to one race – and that’s the human race! 

This problem is rooted in history and we are still carrying it in our bodies until this day. But we end up arguing, polarizing, and canceling each other – instead of reckoning with history, and all the trauma, abuse, and pain – so we could all heal as one.

When I asked Jill about what a successful life looks like to her, she said that she finds success in acting with integrity, showing up for people she loves, and catalyzing transformation that helped the world evolve into a safer, more loving, understanding, and compassionate place. 

In this episode, you will hear:

  • What is white supremacy mythology
  • The different connotations of supremacy
  • The dangers that come from white supremacy
  • Why people are resistant to dismantling white supremacy
  • Undoing the harmful effects of white supremacy within our white bodies
  • Ways that white people can help dismantle white supremacy

Subscribe and Review

Have you subscribed to our podcast? We’d love for you to subscribe if you haven’t yet. 

We’d love it even more if you could drop a review or 5-star rating over on Apple Podcasts. Simply select “Ratings and Reviews” and “Write a Review” then a quick line with your favorite part of the episode. It only takes a second and it helps spread the word about the podcast.

Supporting Resources:

  • My Grandmother's Hands: Racialized Trauma and the Pathway to Mending Our Hearts and Bodies by Resmaa Menakem https://amzn.to/3oD9ItS (affiliate)
  • Dying of Whiteness: How the Politics of Racial Resentment Is Killing America's Heartland by Jonathan M Metzl https://amzn.to/3S9uBuf (affiliate)
  • https://www.evolutionaryworkplace.com/
  • https://jillnagle.medium.com/

Episode Credits

If you like this podcast and are thinking of creating your own, consider talking to my producer, Emerald City Productions. They helped me grow and produce the podcast you are listening to right now. Find out more at https://emeraldcitypro.com Let them know I sent you.

To listen to explicit episodes, sign in.

Stay up to date with this show

Sign in or sign up to follow shows, save episodes, and get the latest updates.

Select a country or region

Africa, Middle East, and India

Asia Pacific

Europe

Latin America and the Caribbean

The United States and Canada