The coronavirus has laid bare fundamental problems with our society, and activists are seizing on this moment of collective social consciousness. They're rethinking what organizing, protest and social change look like in a locked-down world. Our guest is Patrisse Cullors, a leader of the movement to reform L.A. jails and co-founder of Black Lives Matter. [Advertisement] This L.A. Times podcast is presented to you by Blue Shield of California. The fight is tough, but so are you. Thank you, front line.