This episode, we are in Kamas, Utah. Population 2,234. The cattle in Kamas may outnumber people. It's also a surprising and delightful rural hotspot. We are sitting down with Tera and Byron Ames, who unpack all kinds of great intel about being in business together. From learning how to understand each other’s moods and not take them personally, to dealing with the pay cut that comes from suddenly leaving a fat job and being in business for yourself, this was a great time with lots of laughs and pathos. But where does the Grateful Dead t-shirt collection come into this equation? And how does it affect three young kids to see their parents argue professionally over the dinner table? This is a conversation with lots of love, insight and business acumen.