
65 episodes

Eight or Sixteen Mark Ellis Reviews
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4.6 • 9 Ratings
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Rob and Mark are Apple and tech enthusiasts who like nothing more than a good old muse, moan and laugh about the latest happenings from Apple. Tune in to hear them talk through the latest news, rumours and releases (it's a bit like having a couple of pints down the pub - this isn't Newsnight).
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“Things that look like other things”
In this episode, Rob and Mark talk skateboards, Porsches, Jeff Bezos' face, and an unfortunate turn of events for Nothing.
Links
Correction from Rob: Louise did in fact know the open source alternative to Thunderbolt (Oculink) and had posted it in the chat, I just didn’t see it!
Ali Abdaal Lightmode Keyboard:
https://www.lightmode.com/products/coral-orange
Sigma 16mm F1.4 lens:
https://www.sigma-global.com/en/lenses/c017_16_14/
Justin Hawkins Rides Again:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4LC0qZiNew
Nothing/Sunbird security catastrophe:
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2023/11/nothings-imessage-app-was-a-security-catastrophe-taken-down-in-24-hours/
JerryRigEverything / Casetify debacle:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byfWscC87Vg
Sensei macOS monitoring app (alternative to iStatMenus):
https://cindori.com/sensei
Ayaneo AM01 mini PC that looks like a retro Mac:
https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/ayaneo-retro-mini-pc-creator-of-mini-pc-2-0-era#/
Ayaneo Slide:
https://ayaneo.com/product/AYANEO-SLIDE.html
GPD Win4 handheld PC that looks like a PS Vita:
https://www.gpd.hk/gpdwin4
GPD GPU Oculink dock:
https://www.gpd.hk/gpdg1graphics
8bitdo retro bluetooth controllers:
https://www.8bitdo.com/apple/
NuPhy keyboards:
https://nuphy.com
Aqara FP2 Presence Sensor:
https://www.aqara.com/eu/product/presence-sensor-fp2/
SwitchBot Hub 2:
https://uk.switch-bot.com/products/switchbot-hub-2
Rob’s new shelf:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0BN1FG971
Rob’s 90-degree XLR adaptors to fix the front-facing jacks on the Moto M2:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0BZ5SP6JV
Rob’s new KVM switch that can do 5K2K:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0C5WPR68H
Rob’s new comedically large QB12 Subwoofer in Gloss White:
https://www.qacoustics.co.uk/q-acoustics-qb12.html
Free Satellite SOS extended for iPhone 14 users (who registered their device prior to Nov 15) for another two, or two years from date of activation for new purchasers
https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2023/11/apple-extends-emergency-sos-via-satellite-for-an-additional-free-year/
Banking Data in Apple Wallet now live for UK users:
https://www.apple.com/uk/newsroom/2023/11/new-apple-pay-feature-helps-users-access-account-information-more-conveniently/
Spatialify beta for encoding iPhone Spatial Video for Quest 3:
https://testflight.apple.com/join/EEFFsOzJ
Bobby Fingers’ Jeff Bezos Rowing Boat
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGhcSupkNs8
If you'd like to get in touch with Rob and Mark, you can email them at contact@eightorsixteen.com.
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”Hello, Mark!”
In this episode, Rob and Mark discuss Mark's multiple trips to Battersea Power Station, the fallout from the M3 iMac video, and more - although there's an unlikely star of the show in this one, too (and probably a future co-host).
Links
Nothing Chats:
https://nothing.tech/pages/nothing-chats
Sunbird:
https://www.sunbirdapp.com
Beeper (hosted):
https://www.beeper.com
Beeper (self-hosted):
https://github.com/beeper/self-host
Blue Bubbles (self-hosted):
https://bluebubbles.app
Apple allegedly supporting RCS messaging standard next year:
https://9to5mac.com/2023/11/16/apple-rcs-coming-to-iphone/
NothingOS 2.5 Beta available:
https://nothing.community/d/2812-nothing-os-25-open-beta-2-phone-2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHWj6XNE5ZM
Sonos leaked email where CEO mentions move into headphones:
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-11-16/sonos-plans-to-cut-jobs-as-it-prepares-push-into-headphones?leadSource=uverify wall
Sonos bought an audio component miniaturisation expert Mayht last year:
https://investors.sonos.com/news-and-events/investor-news/latest-news/2022/Sonos-Announces-Acquisition-of-Mayht-Holding-BV/default.aspx
Sonos rugged speaker for the outdoors:
https://www.sonos.com/en-gb/shop/roam
Qualcomm’s S7 and S7 Pro headphone chips that allow lossless streaming over Wi-Fi:
https://www.qualcomm.com/news/releases/2023/10/qualcomm-s7-and-s7-pro-gen-1-sound-platforms-unleash-next-level-
Humane AI Pin:
https://hu.ma.ne
OnePlus Open foldable:
https://www.oneplus.com/uk/open
DJI Pocket 3:
https://www.dji.com/osmo-pocket-3
Sony Alpha A9 III:
https://www.sony.co.uk/electronics/interchangeable-lens-cameras/ilce-9m3
Steam Deck OLED:
https://www.steamdeck.com/en/
Bobo VR M3 Pro upgraded strap for Quest 3:
https://www.bobovr.com/products/bobovr-m3-pro
If you'd like to get in touch with Rob and Mark, you can email them at contact@eightorsixteen.com.
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”It doesn’t help that you’re upside down”
In this episode, Rob and Mark dissect the 'Scary Fast' Apple event. And Rob spends the entire recording upside down in Streamyard. Brilliant.
Links
Apple Hallowe’en Event replay:
https://events-delivery.apple.com/2409nbcxymeynatwojbbrjuhryomtudb/m3u8/vod_index-oXZvssLWyjfQDEQuVuCBHPWDywaNEipk.m3u8
Mark’s Pre-event livestream replay:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mm3O4gTzYWQ
Braided Space Black MagSafe 3 Charging Cable:
https://www.apple.com/shop/product/MUVQ3AM/A/usb-c-to-magsafe-3-cable-2-m-space-black
Apple’s Polishing Cloth supports the new M3 Macs and continues to be the most compatible product they sell (scroll down and check out the hilarious Compatibility section):
https://www.apple.com/shop/product/MM6F3AM/A/polishing-cloth
Resident Evil Village now available for iPhone 15 Pro with A17 Pro (and iPads with M chips) with 60% off sale to celebrate the launch:
https://apps.apple.com/us/app/resident-evil-village/id6450980545
If you'd like to get in touch with Rob and Mark, you can email them at contact@eightorsixteen.com.
Eight or Sixteen is a Mark Ellis Media Limited production: https://markellisreviews.com -
“I’ve got a silly little teapot”
In today's show, Rob and Mark discuss the new Pixel stuff, Rob's exciting new purchases, to go naked or not with the iPhone 15 Pro Max, and a silly little teapot.
Links
Jeremy Clarkson’s beer:
http://hawkstone.co
Braun Thermoscan Thermometer:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Braun-Thermoscan-7-IRT6520-Thermometer/dp/B00NVMIO02
Apple Watch Ultra Pip-Boy reference:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pip-Boy
Spigen Classic C1 Bondi Blue iMac G3-esque Case:
https://www.spigen.com/products/iphone-15-series-case-classic-c1-magfit
Mark’s Marshall Earbuds Review:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWNanvge-Ww
Quest 3 - use this link for £23 store credit (full disclosure, I also get £23 store credit):
https://www.meta.com/referrals/link/actuallyquitenicerob
I Expect You to Die game - use this link for 25% off (full disclosure, I get £4 store credit):
https://www.oculus.com/appreferrals/actuallyquitenicerob/1987283631365460/
First Encounters Mixed Reality game (where stuff takes over your living room, bursting through the walls and jumping on your sofa):
https://www.meta.com/en-gb/experiences/6236169136472090/
BoboVR M3 Pro upgraded Quest 3 head strap and battery pack for heavy users:
https://twitter.com/bobovr_official/status/1711340031514947865
Backbone One Controller:
https://playbackbone.com/gb/products/backbone-one-usb-c/
Bose SoundLink Mini II bluetooth speaker:
https://www.bose.co.uk/en_gb/products/speakers/portable_speakers/soundlink_mini_ii_special.html#v=soundlink_mini_ii_special_triple_black
Yamaha YSP-2200 old skool soundbar:
https://uk.yamaha.com/en/products/audio_visual/sound_bar/ysp-2200/index.html
Rob’s silly little teapot:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B073GHBJFD
Life-sized Monopoly:
https://www.monopolylifesized.com
If you'd like to get in touch with Rob and Mark, you can email them at contact@eightorsixteen.com.
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“We all need a bendy hinge”
In this episode, Mark reveals his thoughts on the iPhone 15 Pro Max, Rob updates Mark on the tech events he's missed (and explains why they weren't very exciting) and, for the fist and last time ever, a deckchair is discussed. Enjoy.
Links
Mark’s S23 Ultra/iPhone 15 Pro Max sample shot comparison where one looks like it’s been touched up with crayon:
https://twitter.com/mellisreviews/status/1707049033406054730
Action Button supercharged with Shortcuts:
https://x.com/vittortech/status/1705757332456505428
Toolbox Pro lives!
https://snailedit.dev/2023/08/25/alex-hay-apps.html\\
Duck Luge:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0C1BW91XH
CMF by Nothing (smartwatch, wireless earbuds, 65W GaN charger):
https://intl.cmf.tech
Amazon Event Replay:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uH24S9wzcQ0
Echo Frames Smart Glasses:
http://echoframes.com
Panos Panay leaves Microsoft for Amazon to head up Echo division:
https://www.aboutamazon.com/news/company-news/panos-panay-joins-amazon-devices-and-services
Microsoft Event Replay:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYUEQ0SyOyE
Dell 24” articulated touch display
https://www.dell.com/en-uk/shop/dell-24-touch-usb-c-hub-monitor-p2424ht/apd/210-bhsk/monitors-monitor-accessories
Meta Event Replay:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q09j-y05Prw
Meta/Ray Ban Smart Glasses:
https://www.ray-ban.com/uk/discover-ray-ban-meta-smart-glasses/clp
Rob’s stupid T5 MagSafe conversion project:
Cool metal MagSafe sticker:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B097CGPZV3/
Cheap MagSafe sticky-backed metal ring:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0BHLH2BKX
Really short USB-C to USB-C cable:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B086YYWL4T/
iPhonedo did it already:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9AvvpkIHbs
Apple USB-C SD Card reader:
https://www.apple.com/uk/shop/product/MUFG2ZM/A/usb-c-to-sd-card-reader
Logitech’s £259 deckchair:
https://www.logitechg.com/en-gb/products/gaming-furniture/playseat-challenge-x-sim-racing-seat.challenge-x-g-edition.html
If you'd like to get in touch with Rob and Mark, you can email them at contact@eightorsixteen.com.
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”How do you explain that to your nan?”
In this episode, Rob and Mark dissect the iPhone 15 announcement (while Mark does his level best to stop his dog, Eddie, from whining and barking throughout). Well done on the edit, Richard.
Links
First ever Mark Ellis Reviews livestream with Mark, Patrick Rambles, Alex Gear and Tech, and Rob’s reaction to the Apple Event:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VG2mG2NY3hA
France ban iPhone 12:
https://www.anfr.fr/liste-actualites/actualite/temporary-withdrawal-from-the-market-of-the-iphone-12-for-non-compliance-with-eu-regulation
Rogue Amoeba’s Audio Hijack (and other audio tools) now Sonoma compatible:
https://rogueamoeba.com/audiohijack/
If you'd like to get in touch with Rob and Mark, you can email them at contact@eightorsixteen.com.
Eight or Sixteen is a Mark Ellis Media Limited production: https://markellisreviews.com
Customer Reviews
This podcast is great company for long drives!
I always enjoy listening to Rob and Mark’s conversations. Optimistic and yet always rooted in reality. And this week’s pre-shopping holiday advice was so useful! A lovely podcast I look forward to listening to every other weekend.
Bore me to death…
As they say about many Apple products, “I’m not that keen on it.” You’ll get better information faster reading Medium, iDrop, or any other Apple-centric articles. This show moves at the speed of slow and debunks the myth that English accents are attractive.