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Emerging Form is a podcast about the creative process in which a journalist (Christie Aschwanden) and a poet (Rosemerry Wahtola Trommer) discuss creative conundrums over wine. Each episode concludes with a game of two questions in which a guest joins in to help answer questions about the week's topic. Season one guests include poets, novelists, journalists, a song writer, a circus performer, a sketch artist and a winemaker.

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Emerging Form is a podcast about the creative process in which a journalist (Christie Aschwanden) and a poet (Rosemerry Wahtola Trommer) discuss creative conundrums over wine. Each episode concludes with a game of two questions in which a guest joins in to help answer questions about the week's topic. Season one guests include poets, novelists, journalists, a song writer, a circus performer, a sketch artist and a winemaker.

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    Episode 28 Bonus: Extended interview with Holiday Mathis

    Episode 28 Bonus: Extended interview with Holiday Mathis

    Photo: A Holiday Mathis horoscope. [This thing you’re trying to accomplish cannot be accomplished as a linear pursuit. It’s a holistic process. So when you' feel yourself drawn “off track,” maybe you’re actually just working things from a different angle.]

    In this bonus episode, we continue our conversation with horoscope writer Holiday Mathis, who also happens to be a multi-platinum songwriter whose songs have been recorded by Miley Cyrus, Emma Roberts and many others. We talk about the difference between writing horoscopes and lyrics, more about attending to and chasing the muses, and about the essential quality of openness. 

    Holiday Mathis

    Holiday’s daily, syndicated horoscopes

    Christie’s blog, I know that astrology is b******t, but I can’t stop reading my hororscope

    The Book of Laughter and Forgetting by Milan Kundera

    Rosemerry’s poem about her birthday horoscope last year

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    • 15 min
    Episode 28: The daily grind with Holiday Mathis

    Episode 28: The daily grind with Holiday Mathis

    How do you “reduce the drag” and make yourself the most available to daily output in your creative practice? To help with ideas, we turn to Holiday Mathis, who has written over eight million words in her daily, syndicated horoscopes. Talk about learning how to negotiate the daily grind! In this episode, we talk about how improvisation rules help in daily discipline, about Holiday’s muses and how she serves them and great advice from a soap opera actor. We talk ambition, how she got her start, and the role of the reader vs. the process of the writer. It’s a light-hearted, metaphor-rich, treasure trove of advice for creatives of all kinds. 

    Holiday Mathis writes the syndicated daily horoscope column for hundreds of newspaper publications internationally including The Los Angeles Times, The Washington Post, and in her hometown, The Tennessean. She is working on the Guinness Book World Record for the most consecutively published words by a single author in newspapers, having currently been published every day since 2005. Mathis is also a multi-platinum songwriter whose songs have been recorded by Miley Cyrus, Emma Roberts and many others. She lives in Franklin, Tennessee with her husband, daughter and two Shih Tzus. 

    Holiday Mathis

    Today’s horoscopes by Holiday

    Some of Mathis’s songs

    Christie’s blog post about Mathis: I Know Astrology is B******t, But I Can’t Stop Reading My Horoscope

    Rosemerry’s poem about her birthday horoscope last year

    Koko the gorilla muse

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    • 27 min
    Episode 27 bonus: A Day in the Life of Kayleen Asbo

    Episode 27 bonus: A Day in the Life of Kayleen Asbo

    “Marvelous things happen when you follow your heart’s truth … open doorways you can’t imagine.” So says our special guest Kayleen Asbo in this special bonus episode with the amazing Kayleen Asbo, cultural historian, composer, musician, writer and teacher. We talk about her “pillars of the day,” and her “bookends,” plus habits she has for cultivating beauty and creating anchors in an itinerant life, plus things she wishes she’d known before that she trusts now--especially about reckless generosity.

    Kayleen Asbo

    Christie’s upcoming workshop, Level Up: business planning for freelancers

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    • 13 min
    Episode 27: Creative Communities with Kayleen Asbo

    Episode 27: Creative Communities with Kayleen Asbo

    “Find what you long for and be brave and vulnerable enough to offer it to the world.” So says Kayleen Asbo, our featured guest on this episode of Emerging Form in which we speak about how to foster and shape creative community. Asbo is a cultural historian, composer, musician, writer and teacher who weaves myth, music, psychology, history and art with experiential learning. We talk about passion, about ways to help a group find juice, about how a group leader can encourage trust and intimacy, as Asbo says, by leading “with your own breaking open heart.” At their best, creative communities refresh, encourage, support and inspire us--and offer us discipline. This episode is full of thoughts and tips on everything from creating commitment to how to create intimacy online.

    Kayleen Asbo holds master's degrees in music (piano performance), mythology and psychology. She has been a faculty member at the Pacifica Graduate Institute and the San Francisco Conservatory of Music, and the Osher Life Long Learning Institutes at UC Berkeley, Sonoma State University and Dominican University. She teaches on a wide array of topics, ranging from Jungian Depth Psychology to Dante to the History of Classical Music. As theCreative Director and Resident Mythologist for Mythica, Asbo used to spend three months a year leading workshops and retreats in sacred sites in Europe and has turned her treasury of pictures and stories from these pilgrimages into online "Virtual Pilgrimages."

    Kayleen Asbo

    Virtual Pilgrimages

    To learn more about Christie’s freelancing workshops, visit https://christieaschwanden.com/workshops/ or email Christie@nasw.org

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    The Hero of the Imogene Pass Race

    --Rosemerry Wahtola Trommer

    When I think of encouragement,

    I think of Jack Pera,

    who stood every year

    at the top of Imogene Pass—

    in snow, in sun, in sleet, in fog.

    On race day, a thousand plus runners

    would reach the top,

    weary, having climbed

    over five thousand feet in ten miles,

    and Jack, he would hold out his hand

    and pull each of us up the last foot,

    launching us toward the long downhill finish.

    I remember how surprised I was

    the first time, and grateful,

    grateful to feel him reaching for me,

    grateful to feel his powerful grip

    yanking me up through the scree.

    “Good job,” he’d say to each one of us,

    cheering us though we were sweaty

    and drooling and panting and spent.

    After that first race, I knew to look for him

    as I climbed the last pitch,

    trying to make out his form

    at the top of the ridge.

    And there was. Every time.

    “Good job,” he’d say

    as he made that last steep step

    feel like flight.

    There are people who do this,

    who hold out their hand,

    year after year,

    to help those who need it.

    There are people who carry us

    when we feel broken,

    if only for a moment.

    When I heard today Jack had died,

    I couldn’t help but imagine

    an angel waiting there above him

    as he took his last breath,

    an angel with a firm grip and a big smile

    holding out a hand, pulling him through that last effort,

    telling him, “Good Job, Jack. Good job.”

    And may he have felt in that moment

    the blessing of that encouragement,

    totally ready to be launched into whatever came next.

    Good job, Jack Pera. Good job.

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    • 38 min
    Episode 26 Bonus: A day in the life of Amy Irvine

    Episode 26 Bonus: A day in the life of Amy Irvine

    In this bonus episode of Emerging Form, our guest Amy Irvine surprises us right away when we ask to describe her writing practice. “Erotic,” she says. Find out what that means, and how you, too, might want to find your way toward that answer. We also talk about terrible writing advice from a therapist, Amy’s workspace, and the advice she would give her younger self. 

    Mary Carr on Sacred Carnality

    Amy Irvine

    Air Mail: Letters of Politics, Pandemics & Place

    Desert Cabal

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    • 12 min
    Episode 26-Finding creative flow with Amy Irvine

    Episode 26-Finding creative flow with Amy Irvine

    Sometimes, a project just comes together in the most organic, meant-to-be way, and nothing can stop it. What’s that like? We explore that experience in this episode with our guest, Amy Irvine, who co-wrote Air Mail: Letters of Politics, Pandemics & Place with our previous guest, Pam Houston. We’ll talk about how the form emerged--what began as an epistolary exercise became a fully fledged book. We’ll talk about how creative endeavors can create friendships. We also talk about her previous book, Desert Cabal, about backlash against women writers and more. 

    Amy Irvine won the Orion Book Award and Colorado Book Award for her memoir, Trespass: Living at the Edge of the Promised Land Her next book, Desert Cabal: A New Season in the Wilderness, is a feminist response to Edward Abbey’s Desert Solitaire, and one of Orion’s “25 Most-Read Stories of the Decade.” It was also added to Outside Magazine’s Adventure Canon and named by Backpacker as one of its New Wilderness Classics. During the pandemic, Irvine co-authored Air Mail: Letters of Politics, Pandemics & Placewith Pam Houston; the book is forthcoming in October 2020, as is Amy’s latest essay for Orion: “Close to the Bone.” Irvine teaches in the Mountainview Low-Residency MFA program at Southern New Hampshire University. In addition to frequently teaching for Orion Magazine, she has taught at Western Colorado University, the Free Flow Institute, Whitman College’s Semester in the West, the University of Utah’s Environmental Humanities Program at Rio Mesa, and Fishtrap’s Outpost. Irvine lives and writes off-grid on a remote mesa in southwest Colorado, just spitting distance from her Utah homeland.

    Amy Irvine

    Air Mail: Letters of Politics, Pandemics & Place

    Desert Cabal

    Desert Solitaire

    Pam Houston

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    • 35 min

Customer Reviews

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28 Ratings

28 Ratings

Cindy.Kuzma ,

Inspirational and aspirational

I’m a journalist who writes about running and science and I’ve always admired Christie Aschwanden’s work. Listening to her in conversation with a poet has brought a whole new perspective to her work, and my own—and introduced me to new ideas and formats I never would have contemplated. I truly appreciate the way they’ve navigated the pandemic and the social unrest afterward, too. I respect their choice to take a summer break but I’ll be eagerly awaiting their return.

laurajoycedavis ,

A wonderful refuge for creatives in this time of chaos

Christie and Rosemerry do a wonderful job of showcasing the work of other artists in a way that helps us all navigate the disappointments and joys of art and life. Their thoughtful curation of these conversations is a gift to us all, especially in a time when we need to be reminded of the beauty and good in this world. It took a pandemic for me to find them, but I'm so grateful that I did!

SherryBelul ,

Makes me smile ... and think!

I love this podcast! I always feel as if they are sitting in my living room with me, sipping wine and talking about all things creative. I love how these episodes bring me to life. I love how they make me think about new angles on creativity and form. I love the joy and enthusiasm!

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