The Edge of Infinity

Infinity AI | Hosted by Lina Avancini Colucci
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Will AI change the world? Everyone agrees that AI will change a lot about society, but no one knows exactly how. My name is Lina Colucci and I got my PhD from MIT and Harvard. I talk to other AI founders, engineers, and researchers who are building the future of artificial intelligence. Together, we predict the ways AI will shape our world both in the near-term and as we project out to infinity. Join us and let's imagine the future of AI together.

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  1. Ep. 4 The secret to unlocking unstructured, visual data | Cody Coleman (CEO, Coactive AI)

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    Ep. 4 The secret to unlocking unstructured, visual data | Cody Coleman (CEO, Coactive AI)

    In this episode I talk with Cody Coleman, the founder and CEO of Coactive AI. Unstructured data is the future. But actually harnessing its power is an overwhelming proposition. Coactive makes it easy for companies to understand and leverage the unstructured data sitting in their servers… starting with images and videos and eventually expanding beyond.  Cody is an inspiring human being. He was born in prison while his mom was incarcerated, and then went on to study at MIT for undergrad and Stanford for his PhD. Inspired by his legendary advisor, Prof. Matei Zaharia, co-founder of Databricks, Cody founded Coactive AI at the end of his PhD. His life mission is showing that anyone can be successful regardless where they come from.  We chat about Cody’s journey, Coactive’s technical approach, and, as always, our predictions for AGI and the future of AI. Hope you enjoy! *** Time Stamps 1:50 Cody’s early life journey: being born in prison, being put into foster care, and then getting into MIT 4:20 Video games as an escape and how he picked Computer Science as a major 6:15 Imposter syndrome and arriving at MIT  8:00 Story of my life: “You’re smart, you’ll figure it out” - Discovering he was dyslexic  9:45 Why did Cody get a PhD?  13:30 Existential crisis in PhD year 3 and the mental shift that turned it around  20:00 The sparknotes of Cody’s PhD research at Stanford 30:20 The initial inspiration for Coactive: embeddings all the way back in 2017! 37:00 What are customers doing with Coactive?  46:00 Project out to infinity: What does the world look like because of Coactive?  51:00 How Coactive works in the internet of the future?  56:20 Have we achieved AGI? Why or why not?  1:02:20 Where we’ll see signs AGI first?  1:05:25 As a black man in engineering and the startup world, what’s Cody’s self talk around being a minority?  1:17:45 How Cody approaches goal setting 1:23:25 Asks of the audience *** Links to resources mentioned in this episode:  Cody’s TEDx Talk: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stxJMsxxxtA  Cody’s PhD research part 1: https://ddkang.github.io/papers/dawnbench-nips17.pdf, https://arxiv.org/pdf/1911.02549   Cody’s PhD research part 2: https://arxiv.org/pdf/2007.00077  Embeddings at Pinterest 2019: https://medium.com/pinterest-engineering/unifying-visual-embeddings-for-visual-search-at-pinterest-74ea7ea103f0  Embeddings at Meta 2018: https://engineering.fb.com/2018/10/15/ai-research/dynamic-meta-embeddings/  “Free Guy” movie: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt6264654/  “The 3 Body Problem” Book Series: https://www.amazon.com/Three-Body-Problem-Cixin-Liu/dp/0765382032  *** Cody’s Accounts:  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/codyaustun/  Twitter: https://x.com/codyaustun  Coactive AI: https://www.linkedin.com/company/coactiveai/  Lina’s Accounts:  Twitter: https://twitter.com/lina_colucci LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lina-colucci/ *** The Edge of Infinity: Imagining the Future of AI Will AI change the world? Everyone agrees that AI will change a lot about society, but no one knows exactly how. My name is Lina Colucci. I founded Infinity AI and got my PhD from MIT and Harvard. I talk to other AI founders, engineers, and researchers who are building the future of artificial intelligence. Together, we predict the ways AI will shape our world both in the near-term and as we project out to infinity. Join us and let’s imagine the future of AI together.

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    Ep 3. Our approach to AI is broken | George Morgan

    In this episode we talk with George Morgan who is the founder and CEO of Symbolica AI. Symbolica is a moonshot AI company. George believes the way that AI models are trained today is fundamentally broken and will not lead us to AGI. Symbolica is taking a completely different approach that will make models orders of magnitude faster, cheaper, and with additional reasoning capabilities.  George is also a fascinating human being and this episode is packed with stories about Elon Musk, Andrej Kaparthy, the Sony QRIO robot, and much more. Of course, we also chat about our predictions on AGI and the future of AI.  Hope you enjoy my conversation with George!  Time Stamps 02:30 The 20-year robot saga that took George to Japan  10:55 What’s wrong with AI models today?  16:40 What does it mean to represent things symbolically instead of statistically?  20:20 Symbolica does not have labels, only data 25:10 The manifold hypothesis  29:44 What is online learning?  34:58 Symbolica’s moonshot goals  38:04 What will be Symbolica’s ChatGPT moment?  39:51 George’s path to Tesla (including dropping out of college and writing an email to Elon Musk!) 44:35 Why it’s stressful to work for Elon Musk  47:21 Why George disagrees with Andrej Kaparthy  51:35 The difference between being a founder and an employee (this is the #1 lesson George learned from Elon)  55:50 George’s definition of AGI  57:35 Common issues with LLMs: they mimic human behavior, but don’t let that fool you  01:01:28 Lina’s different take on LLMs’ abilities  1:04:02 George’s counter-argument  1:09:09 Our discussion about a quote from “The Beginning of Infinity” (see below) * * * “Even if chatbots did at some point start becoming much better at imitating humans (or at fooling humans), that would still not be a path to AI. Becoming better at pretending to think is not the same as coming closer to being able to think. [...] A non-AI program cannot fake AI. ” — David Deutsch, “The Beginning of Infinity” * * * Links to Resources mentioned in this episode: Sony QRIO Robot: https://spectrum.ieee.org/qrio-the-robot-that-could  Tesla Self-Driving Team: https://www.tesla.com/AI  Elon Musk: https://twitter.com/elonmusk  Andrej Kaparthy: https://twitter.com/karpathy  Paper about “The Reversal Curse in LLMs - LLMs trained on "A is B" fail to learn "B is A”: https://arxiv.org/abs/2309.12288  Paper where GPT4 explains neurons in GPT2: https://openai.com/research/language-models-can-explain-neurons-in-language-models  Symbolica AI: https://www.symbolica.ai/  * * * George’s accounts  Twitter: https://twitter.com/vr4300  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/georgemorgan2/  Symbolica AI: https://twitter.com/symbolica_ai     Lina’s Accounts Twitter: https://twitter.com/lina_colucci LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lina-colucci/ * * * The Edge of Infinity: Imagining the Future of AI Will AI change the world? Everyone agrees that AI will change a lot about society, but no one knows exactly how. My name is Lina Colucci. I founded Infinity AI and got my PhD from MIT and Harvard. I talk to other AI founders, engineers, and researchers who are building the future of artificial intelligence. Together, we predict the ways AI will shape our world both in the near-term and as we project out to infinity. Join us and let’s imagine the future of AI together.

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    Ep 2. OpenAI has always been a bit different | Evan Morikawa

    In this episode, we talk with Evan Morikawa who leads Applied Engineering at OpenAI. Evan's team is responsible for all the backend, frontend, and inference infrastructure for all of OpenAI's products from ChatGPT to the APIs to DALLE. OpenAI is one of the most important companies in the world and they are on track to be one of the - if not the first - inventor of AGI. OpenAI recently divided the Applied Engineering group into multiple different teams but, at the time of launch of ChatGPT and DALLE, Evan managed all (!) the applied engineers at the company. Hope you enjoy my conversation with Evan - one of the people who brought ChatGPT into the world. --- Full show notes can be found here: https://blog.infinity.ai/ep-2-openai-has-always-been-a-bit-different-evan-morikawa-f43ddfe02b4c --- Time Stamps 02:21 Remembering ChatGPT launch day 08:31 What Evan's team (Applied Engineering) does at OpenAI 12:44 The craziest time at OpenAI 14:24 Was he surprised by the reception of GPT4? made less of a splash than ChatGPT? 16:11 What's the balance between shipping things versus doing R&D? 18:38 What Evan has learned from Sam Altman 23:29 The difference between being an employee versus a founder 26:53 The future of SW engineering given AI and tools like CoPilot 31:42 Is GPT4 AGI? Evan's definition of AGI is interesting. 33:59 How will we know we've gotten there? 35:15 Lina's definition of AGI 39:25 Are we missing any fundamental pieces that are needed to get to AGI? 41:33 What is Olin College and why you should go there 47:54 Advice for early career folks who want to get a job at OpenAI 53:04 Evan's advice for balancing career and kids 1:00:00 Favorite paper from the past 6 months 1:00:03 Our discussion about a quote from "The Beginning of Infinity" (see below) --- "We have a duty to be optimistic. […] An optimistic civilization is open and not afraid to innovate, and is based on traditions of criticism." - David Deutsch, "The Beginning of Infinity" --- Evan's Accounts Twitter: https://twitter.com/E0M LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/evanmorikawa/ Lina's Accounts Twitter: https://twitter.com/lina_colucci LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lina-colucci/ --- THE EDGE OF INFINITY: Imagining the Future of AI Will AI change the world? Everyone agrees that AI will change a lot about society, but no one knows exactly how. My name is Lina Colucci. I founded Infinity AI and got my PhD from MIT and Harvard. I talk to other AI founders, engineers, and researchers who are building the future of artificial intelligence. Together, we predict the ways AI will shape our world both in the near-term and as we project out to infinity. Join us and let's imagine the future of AI together.

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    Ep 1. The AI will see you now | Prof. Akshay Chaudhari

    Akshay Chaudhari is a Professor at Stanford University where he leads the Medical Intelligence for Medical Imaging group. Akshay is a leader in applying deep learning to medical imaging and works across modalities from MRI to X-rays to CT as well as other sensors. We have a far ranging conversation from leveraging GenAI to train medical classifiers to where the future of computer vision is going. Hope you enjoy! Full Show Notes (transcript + links to all resources): https://blog.infinity.ai Time stamps 02:30 Stable Diffusion to generate synthetic images of chest x-rays (and then training on those images!) 10:21 Using deep learning to speed up MRI scans 15:06 Why MRI is the most beautiful modality of all time (Note: Both Akshay and Lina may be a little biased…) 23:38 Ideas to make use of the massive datasets that sit in hospital data warehouses today (e.g. abdominal CTs from the ER) 25:20 Will radiologists exist in the future? 30:28 What Akshay is jealous about from the natural image CV community 36:67 Where the future of computer vision is going 49:19 Favorite papers from the past 6 months 57:29 Advice for newcomers into the AI space 61:48 Tips for staying up to date with the firehose of AI advancements 1:03:34 Reflect on quote from "The Beginning of Infinity" * * * Akshay’s Accounts Twitter: https://twitter.com/Dr_ASChaudhari Lab Website: https://med.stanford.edu/mimi.html Google Scholar: https://scholar.google.com/citations?user=08Y4NhMAAAAJ&hl=en LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/akshaychaudhari/ * * * Lina’s Accounts Twitter: https://twitter.com/lina_colucci LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lina-colucci/ * * * This Episode's Quote from "The Beginning of Infinity" "It is inevitable that we face problems, but no particular problem is inevitable. We survive and thrive by solving each problem as it comes up. And since the human ability to transform nature is limited only by the laws of physics, none of the endless stream of problems will ever constitute an impassable barrier."  - David Deutsch, "The Beginning of Infinity"

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Will AI change the world? Everyone agrees that AI will change a lot about society, but no one knows exactly how. My name is Lina Colucci and I got my PhD from MIT and Harvard. I talk to other AI founders, engineers, and researchers who are building the future of artificial intelligence. Together, we predict the ways AI will shape our world both in the near-term and as we project out to infinity. Join us and let's imagine the future of AI together.

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