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Episode 160 – A Chat With Grzegorz Ziółkowski Hallway Chats
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Show Notes
This episode of Hallway Chats is a little different from previous episodes. Recently Cate and Topher had the opportunity to go to WordCamp Europe in Porto, Portugal, where we had some literal hallway chats. This 4one is with Grzegorz Ziółkowski.
Piccia’s Site: https://gziolo.pl/
Twitter | @gziolo
Episode Transcript
Topher: All right. So tell me your name.
Greg: My name is Greg Ziolkowski. But I go by Greg because it’s just easier for everyone.
Topher: Yes. Yeah. All right. And now what do you do?
Greg: So I work at Automattic and I also do work full time on WordPress Core, and in particular Gutenberg Project. And it’s been five years since I started contributing to Gutenberg.
Topher: Oh, very beginning.
Greg: I mean, not start. Like a few months after that. Exactly, you know, five years ago at WordCamp Europe was that first probably demonstration of that. So like three months after that I joined the team. I was working internally at Automattic with the whole community on-
Topher: So were hired to work on Gutenberg or you moved to Gutenberg?
Greg: No. I asked to be moved to Gutenberg.
Topher: Oh, you moved. You asked.
Greg: Yeah. I mean, I just like, asked, “How can I be part of the project?”
Topher: That’s one of the things I’ve always liked about Automattic.
Greg: I also did some contribution to other products. And it worked, and here I am.
Topher: Great. And you’re still happy with it?
Greg: Yes, I am. It took a lot of time to realize the vision. We are slowly getting to the point where it’s something that was like planned. It’s so great to see all the talks showing, all the power of the paradigm of logs, how it works, you know, seeing the excitement about new development over block patterns, block themes.
Topher: That’s really cool. Is there a particular part that you worked on?
Greg: Oh, so you know, it’s been five years, so it’s been different things that are-
Topher: What are you working on now?
Greg: Right now, also the last two months I spent as a co-lead for editor test for WordPress 6.0 release. It’s always like more about making sure that everything gets properly moved from the Gutenberg plugin to WordPress Core. But, you know, it changes. I work a lot with the ways how people can build blocks. And that applies to API’s that are exposed to both the core but also to all extenders they’re plugging out, you know, team out also. And also have to develop tools that make it easier. You know, like the transition from PHP to Java it’s quite a journey.
Topher: It is.
Greg: So we are trying to make it more straightforward so that people can-
Greg: That’s great.
Topher: …start, like plays that and end slowly, learn how to tackle double. Any sort of like what you had in the past with PHP, like when people started, they didn’t know PHP.
Topher: Right.
Greg: But also you could play, tweak things in PHP back then. I’m also PHP developer. My first job was in PHP.
Show Notes
This episode of Hallway Chats is a little different from previous episodes. Recently Cate and Topher had the opportunity to go to WordCamp Europe in Porto, Portugal, where we had some literal hallway chats. This 4one is with Grzegorz Ziółkowski.
Piccia’s Site: https://gziolo.pl/
Twitter | @gziolo
Episode Transcript
Topher: All right. So tell me your name.
Greg: My name is Greg Ziolkowski. But I go by Greg because it’s just easier for everyone.
Topher: Yes. Yeah. All right. And now what do you do?
Greg: So I work at Automattic and I also do work full time on WordPress Core, and in particular Gutenberg Project. And it’s been five years since I started contributing to Gutenberg.
Topher: Oh, very beginning.
Greg: I mean, not start. Like a few months after that. Exactly, you know, five years ago at WordCamp Europe was that first probably demonstration of that. So like three months after that I joined the team. I was working internally at Automattic with the whole community on-
Topher: So were hired to work on Gutenberg or you moved to Gutenberg?
Greg: No. I asked to be moved to Gutenberg.
Topher: Oh, you moved. You asked.
Greg: Yeah. I mean, I just like, asked, “How can I be part of the project?”
Topher: That’s one of the things I’ve always liked about Automattic.
Greg: I also did some contribution to other products. And it worked, and here I am.
Topher: Great. And you’re still happy with it?
Greg: Yes, I am. It took a lot of time to realize the vision. We are slowly getting to the point where it’s something that was like planned. It’s so great to see all the talks showing, all the power of the paradigm of logs, how it works, you know, seeing the excitement about new development over block patterns, block themes.
Topher: That’s really cool. Is there a particular part that you worked on?
Greg: Oh, so you know, it’s been five years, so it’s been different things that are-
Topher: What are you working on now?
Greg: Right now, also the last two months I spent as a co-lead for editor test for WordPress 6.0 release. It’s always like more about making sure that everything gets properly moved from the Gutenberg plugin to WordPress Core. But, you know, it changes. I work a lot with the ways how people can build blocks. And that applies to API’s that are exposed to both the core but also to all extenders they’re plugging out, you know, team out also. And also have to develop tools that make it easier. You know, like the transition from PHP to Java it’s quite a journey.
Topher: It is.
Greg: So we are trying to make it more straightforward so that people can-
Greg: That’s great.
Topher: …start, like plays that and end slowly, learn how to tackle double. Any sort of like what you had in the past with PHP, like when people started, they didn’t know PHP.
Topher: Right.
Greg: But also you could play, tweak things in PHP back then. I’m also PHP developer. My first job was in PHP.
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