2 hr 13 min

Episode #17 - Famine, Affluence, and Morality Books & Booze

    • Education

Guest: Evan Sandhoefner (blogger, Effective Altruist, and alum of Microsoft & Harvard)
Book: Famine, Affluence, and Morality by Peter Singer
Booze: Ballast Point Sculpin IPA

0:00:00 - Evan and Ballast Point Sculpin
https://sandhoefner.com/
https://twitter.com/EvanSandhoefner?lang=en

0:03:49 - Brian Tomasik, who inspired Evan’s website
https://briantomasik.com/
https://reducing-suffering.org/

0:05:21 - How does Evan handle discussing ethics without sounding like a dick?

0:08:00 - Famine, Affluence, and Morality and the Effective Altruism movement
https://www.utilitarian.net/singer/by/1972----.htm
https://www.ted.com/talks/peter_singer_the_why_and_how_of_effective_altruism?language=en
https://www.centreforeffectivealtruism.org/blog/understanding-cause-neutrality/

0:17:42 - Direct work vs Working to Give
https://80000hours.org/articles/earning-to-give/
https://80000hours.org/career-guide/
https://80000hours.org/2015/07/80000-hours-thinks-that-only-a-small-proportion-of-people-should-earn-to-give-long-term/

0:26:28 - The Most Effective Cocaine Dealer
https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/3DGYg2RxXHgekLGeG/to-save-the-world-don-t-get-a-job-at-a-charity-go-work-on
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trolley_problem

0:30:57 - Utilitarian calculus: Quantifying fuzzy concepts like suffering, happiness, well-being, etc.

0:33:09 - Consciousness, consciousness meters, and aliens
https://www.iep.utm.edu/hard-con/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speciesism
https://waitbutwhy.com/2014/05/fermi-paradox.html

0:42:19 - Moral tug-of-war: The demandingness objection to utilitarianism and Effective Altruism
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demandingness_objection

0:49:53 - Bugs in our brains: Grappling with our flawed moral minds
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/how-risky-is-it-really/201108/statistical-numbing-why-millions-can-die-and-we-don-t-care
https://fs.blog/2017/05/confirmation-bias/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In-group_favoritism
https://www.theverge.com/2017/3/27/15077864/elon-musk-neuralink-brain-computer-interface-ai-cyborgs

0:56:58 - Is ethics self-limiting? Can ethical people be successful?

1:02:11 - Self-deception, and The Elephant in the Brain by Robin Hanson and Kevin Simler
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-serving_bias
https://www.amazon.com/Elephant-Brain-Hidden-Motives-Everyday/dp/0190495995

1:03:56 - Wild animal suffering, selection theory, and cats wearing bells
https://reducing-suffering.org/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R/K_selection_theory
https://www.birdsbesafe.com/

1:17:57 - Domestic animal suffering, unhappy cows, and reducing vs eliminating meat from your diet
https://animalcharityevaluators.org/
https://www.givewell.org/

1:26:53 - Existential risk and the “expected value” of the far future
https://concepts.effectivealtruism.org/concepts/existential-risks/
https://concepts.effectivealtruism.org/concepts/the-long-term-future/
https://www.effectivealtruism.org/articles/ea-global-2018-far-future-of-life/

1:30:42 - Epic Givewell spreadsheet
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1xBKlshqbu6H-uByB2INEaDNPpj_Ulz0WrrFwgrnkXfk/edit#gid=1537947274

1:31:59 - Open philanthropy, hit-based giving, and The Man Who Fed the World
https://www.openphilanthropy.org/blog/hits-based-giving
https://www.amazon.com/Man-Who-Fed-World-Laureate/dp/1930754906

1:41:04 - Slow vs fast Artificial intelligence, giving now vs giving later, the time value of money, and John’s personal reasons for (mostly) giving later
https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/7uJcBNZhinomKtH9p/giving-now-vs-later-a-summary
https://www.investopedia.com/terms/t/timevalueofmoney.asp
https://fs.blog/2013/02/the-psychology-of-human-misjudgement/

1:53:01 - Effective Altruism’s “popularity problem”, growing the movement, and caring vs counting
https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/pcygusgiy6ZabnB93/how-valuable-is-movement-growth

2:

Guest: Evan Sandhoefner (blogger, Effective Altruist, and alum of Microsoft & Harvard)
Book: Famine, Affluence, and Morality by Peter Singer
Booze: Ballast Point Sculpin IPA

0:00:00 - Evan and Ballast Point Sculpin
https://sandhoefner.com/
https://twitter.com/EvanSandhoefner?lang=en

0:03:49 - Brian Tomasik, who inspired Evan’s website
https://briantomasik.com/
https://reducing-suffering.org/

0:05:21 - How does Evan handle discussing ethics without sounding like a dick?

0:08:00 - Famine, Affluence, and Morality and the Effective Altruism movement
https://www.utilitarian.net/singer/by/1972----.htm
https://www.ted.com/talks/peter_singer_the_why_and_how_of_effective_altruism?language=en
https://www.centreforeffectivealtruism.org/blog/understanding-cause-neutrality/

0:17:42 - Direct work vs Working to Give
https://80000hours.org/articles/earning-to-give/
https://80000hours.org/career-guide/
https://80000hours.org/2015/07/80000-hours-thinks-that-only-a-small-proportion-of-people-should-earn-to-give-long-term/

0:26:28 - The Most Effective Cocaine Dealer
https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/3DGYg2RxXHgekLGeG/to-save-the-world-don-t-get-a-job-at-a-charity-go-work-on
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trolley_problem

0:30:57 - Utilitarian calculus: Quantifying fuzzy concepts like suffering, happiness, well-being, etc.

0:33:09 - Consciousness, consciousness meters, and aliens
https://www.iep.utm.edu/hard-con/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speciesism
https://waitbutwhy.com/2014/05/fermi-paradox.html

0:42:19 - Moral tug-of-war: The demandingness objection to utilitarianism and Effective Altruism
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demandingness_objection

0:49:53 - Bugs in our brains: Grappling with our flawed moral minds
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/how-risky-is-it-really/201108/statistical-numbing-why-millions-can-die-and-we-don-t-care
https://fs.blog/2017/05/confirmation-bias/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In-group_favoritism
https://www.theverge.com/2017/3/27/15077864/elon-musk-neuralink-brain-computer-interface-ai-cyborgs

0:56:58 - Is ethics self-limiting? Can ethical people be successful?

1:02:11 - Self-deception, and The Elephant in the Brain by Robin Hanson and Kevin Simler
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-serving_bias
https://www.amazon.com/Elephant-Brain-Hidden-Motives-Everyday/dp/0190495995

1:03:56 - Wild animal suffering, selection theory, and cats wearing bells
https://reducing-suffering.org/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R/K_selection_theory
https://www.birdsbesafe.com/

1:17:57 - Domestic animal suffering, unhappy cows, and reducing vs eliminating meat from your diet
https://animalcharityevaluators.org/
https://www.givewell.org/

1:26:53 - Existential risk and the “expected value” of the far future
https://concepts.effectivealtruism.org/concepts/existential-risks/
https://concepts.effectivealtruism.org/concepts/the-long-term-future/
https://www.effectivealtruism.org/articles/ea-global-2018-far-future-of-life/

1:30:42 - Epic Givewell spreadsheet
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1xBKlshqbu6H-uByB2INEaDNPpj_Ulz0WrrFwgrnkXfk/edit#gid=1537947274

1:31:59 - Open philanthropy, hit-based giving, and The Man Who Fed the World
https://www.openphilanthropy.org/blog/hits-based-giving
https://www.amazon.com/Man-Who-Fed-World-Laureate/dp/1930754906

1:41:04 - Slow vs fast Artificial intelligence, giving now vs giving later, the time value of money, and John’s personal reasons for (mostly) giving later
https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/7uJcBNZhinomKtH9p/giving-now-vs-later-a-summary
https://www.investopedia.com/terms/t/timevalueofmoney.asp
https://fs.blog/2013/02/the-psychology-of-human-misjudgement/

1:53:01 - Effective Altruism’s “popularity problem”, growing the movement, and caring vs counting
https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/pcygusgiy6ZabnB93/how-valuable-is-movement-growth

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