Scaling Japan Podcast

Episode 96: Getting to 50 B2B Clients in Japan Through Partnerships with Shay Khosrowshahi

Most foreign SaaS companies struggle to land even a handful of enterprise clients in Japan.

Shay Khosrowshahi helped scale Ulife to 50+ B2B customers in just 18 months, largely through strategic partnerships.

In this episode of the Scaling Japan Podcast, we break down how he did it.

Shay is the co-founder of NXL and former Managing Director of Ulife APAC. After a 100M investment, he was sent to Japan to launch and scale the business in one of the most credibility-driven markets in the world.

We explore what partnerships really mean in Japan, how to align incentives with distribution partners, and why most founders underestimate the level of commitment required to succeed here.

Shay shares tactical insights on discovery calls, partner qualification, internal champions, cultural misalignment, and how to create momentum that compounds over time.

If you are a SaaS founder, CRO, or GTM leader entering Japan, this episode offers a practical partnership blueprint grounded in real execution.

In This Episode, We Cover:

  • What a partnership actually means in the Japanese market

  • Distribution partners vs strategic alliances

  • Why hunger and ambition matter more than brand size

  • The 70/30 discovery framework for qualifying partners

  • How to forecast revenue impact to align incentives

  • Managing harmony culture while still driving urgency

  • Why early wins create long-term momentum

  • When to double down or exit a partnership

  • Why getting direct customers first gives you leverage

Guest Appearance:

🔗 Shay Khosrowshahi LinkedIn

🌐 NXL : www.yournextlevel.io

Show Notes :

00:01 Introduction to Shay and his Japan scaling journey

02:09 Defining partnerships in the Japan context

03:11 Types of partnerships that worked

06:39 How to vet partners and why hunger matters

10:47 The 70/30 discovery call framework

17:21 Training partners and building internal champions

29:20 Cultural hurdles and harmony-driven challenges

38:21 Measuring partnership health beyond revenue

45:32 Final advice on commitment in Japan

46:31 Why direct traction strengthens partnership leverage

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