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An Apple based podcast covering the last 7 - 10 days in the world of Apple news, reviews, rumours, roundups, guides and anything else that catches our eyes in the world of tech.

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An Apple based podcast covering the last 7 - 10 days in the world of Apple news, reviews, rumours, roundups, guides and anything else that catches our eyes in the world of tech.

    Essential Apple Podcast 293: Where goes A.I.?

    Essential Apple Podcast 293: Where goes A.I.?

    After a bit of a cock up last week which was completely Simon’s fault (and he’s very very sorry about it) Simon does a solo show because Nick is otherwise engaged... Simon has thoughts on AI after more adventures with generative tools, fun tunes from Suno, some with lyrics by Simon, Copilot generated images (some with AI weirdness) and a whip around some of the news stories...

    MISSION TO SEAFARERS APPEAL

    The Mission to Seafarers is looking for donations of old, but working, smartphones and internet capable tablets to give seafarers far from home a way to talk to friends and family
    If you have any old smartphones or tablets cluttering your cupboard and drawers why not donate them to this worthy cause? If you are in the UK contact Vicar@felixparish.com or your nearest Mission to Seafarers Centre, or if you live outside the UK simply visit missiontoseafarers.org.

    Why not come and join the Slack community? You can now just click on this Slackroom Link to sign up and join in the chatter!

    Recorded 14th April 2024


    On this week's show
    NICK RILEY

    Spligosh in the Slack
    Sutton Park Circuit church worship on YouTube
    Nick’s church stream videos on You Tube

    AI – Tunes, Images and Thoughts

    Making Music with Suno.ai and images from Copilot Designer
    You can find all my AI music here
    Best place to look at my AI images is in the Slack



    APPLE

    Apple’s Worldwide Developers Conference returns June 10, 2024 – Apple
    The first gaming emulators are now on the iOS App Store and one has already been pulled – TechRadar
    Apple Vietnam operations expanded, in Chinese diversification – 9to5Mac
    How to edit PDF files on Mac: Pixelmator Pro is the easiest way – BGR
    Apples Self Service Repair Program Will Finally Let You Use Second Hand Parts – TechPP
    Apple's iOS 17.4 browser choice is under fire, despite increased adoption increases – iMore
    Apple quietly added Qi2 charging to the iPhone 12 – The Verge

    SECURITY & PRIVACY

    iPhone Lockdown Mode explained as mercenary spyware attacks target users – Lad Bible

    VINNE & THE SQUIRRELS VS THE ANALYSTS

    Apple's M4 plans could make the latest MacBooks outdated already – TechRadar

    WORTH A CHIRP / ESSENTIAL TIPS

    How To Reduce Photo File Sizes On Your iPhone – SlashGear
    Fix ‘Cannot Be Opened Because the Developer Cannot Be Verified’ Error on Mac – TechPP
    How to Remove Line Under Battery on iPhone – TechPP

    JUST A SNIPPET
    For things that are not worth more than a flypast


    'I bought fake Apple Airpods on Amazon - I was shocked at what actually arrived' – The Mirror
    Newer AirPod 2 and AirPod Pro ones still available on Amazon!




    Essential Apple Recommended Services:

    All Things Secured – Online security made simple by Josh Summers.
    Pixel Privacy – a fabulous resource full of excellent articles and advice on how to protect yourself online.
    Doug.ee Blog for Andy J’s security tips.
    Ghostery – protect yourself from trackers, scripts and ads while browsing.
    Simple Login – Email anonymisation and disposable emails for login/registering with
    33mail.com – Never give out your real email address online again.
    AnonAddy – Disposable email addresses
    Sudo – get up to 9 “avatars” with email addresses, phone numbers and more to mask your online identity. Free for the first year and priced from $0.99 US / £2.50 UK per month thereafter... You get to keep 2 free avatars though.
    ProtonMail – end to end encrypted, open source, based in Switzerland. Prices start from FREE... what more can you ask?
    ProtonVPN – a VPN to go with it perhaps? Prices also starting from nothing!
    Comparitech DNS Leak Test – simple to use and understand VPN leak test.
    Fake Name Generator – so much more than names! Create whole identities (for free) with all the information you could ever need.
    Wire and on the App Stores – free for personal use, open source and end to end encryted messenger and VoIP.
    Pinecast – a fabulous podcast hosting service with costs that start from nothing.

    • 52 min
    Essential Apple Podcast 292: AI image search with CYME

    Essential Apple Podcast 292: AI image search with CYME

    This week Simon and Nick are joined by Mattieu Kopp co-founder and CTO of CYME.io, makers of Avalanche (a tool for migrating photo libraries from App to App), plus Peakto, Find My Snaps, and since we recorded this Peakto for Lightroom, which are amazing AI/ML powered tools for searching and organising your photos in clever and interesting ways. After discussing that they all take a wander through some of the news from the week, including an M series chip flaw and a medical world’s first.

    MISSION TO SEAFARERS APPEAL

    The Mission to Seafarers is looking for donations of old, but working, smartphones and internet capable tablets to give seafarers far from home a way to talk to friends and family
    If you have any old smartphones or tablets cluttering your cupboard and drawers why not donate them to this worthy cause? If you are in the UK contact Rev. Andrew Dotchin Vicar@felixparish.com or your nearest Mission to Seafarers Centre, or if you live outside the UK and would like to help, simply visit missiontoseafarers.org and make a donation.

    Why not come and join the Slack community? You can now just click on this Slackroom Link to sign up and join in the chatter!

    Recorded 10th March 2024


    On this week's show
    NICK RILEY

    Spligosh in the Slack
    Sutton Park Circuit church worship on YouTube
    Nick’s church stream videos on You Tube

    MATTHIEU KOPP

    Links to all their product info, socials and blog at CYME.io

    APPLE

    United States v. Apple (Complaint) – Hardcore Software
    U.S. versus Apple: A first reaction – Six Colors
    Various comments by John Gruber – Daring Fireball


    Here's why Apple is negotiating with Google on AI partnership – iMore
    Apple 'accidentally' updates every AirTag in the world at the same time – iMore
    Entertainment expert claims "nobody's watching Apple TV Plus" – [iMore]
    What's a Steve Jobs signed business card worth? How about $181,183 – 9to5Mac

    TECHNOLOGY & SCIENCE

    Pig kidney transplanted into living person for first time – CNN
    Watch This Humanoid Robot Talk and Complete Tasks Thanks to OpenAI Tech – PC Mag

    SECURITY & PRIVACY

    Vulnerability found in Apples Silicon M-series chips – and it cant be fixed – Mashable
    There’s a vulnerability in Apple’s Mac chips –and the fix might be as bad as the flaw – MSN
    Unpatchable vulnerability discovered in Apple M1, M2 and M3 chips – Tom’s Guide



    JUST A SNIPPET
    For things that are not worth more than a flypast


    Check Out This Functional 3D Printed Macintosh – MacRumors


    Essential Apple Recommended Services:

    All Things Secured – Online security made simple by Josh Summers.
    Pixel Privacy – a fabulous resource full of excellent articles and advice on how to protect yourself online.
    Doug.ee Blog for Andy J’s security tips.
    Ghostery – protect yourself from trackers, scripts and ads while browsing.
    Simple Login – Email anonymisation and disposable emails for login/registering with
    33mail.com – Never give out your real email address online again.
    AnonAddy – Disposable email addresses
    Sudo – get up to 9 “avatars” with email addresses, phone numbers and more to mask your online identity. Free for the first year and priced from $0.99 US / £2.50 UK per month thereafter... You get to keep 2 free avatars though.
    ProtonMail – end to end encrypted, open source, based in Switzerland. Prices start from FREE... what more can you ask?
    ProtonVPN – a VPN to go with it perhaps? Prices also starting from nothing!
    Comparitech DNS Leak Test – simple to use and understand VPN leak test.
    Fake Name Generator – so much more than names! Create whole identities (for free) with all the information you could ever need.
    Wire and on the App Stores – free for personal use, open source and end to end encryted messenger and VoIP.
    Pinecast – a fabulous podcast hosting service with costs that start from nothing.

    Essential Apple is not affiliated with or paid to promote any of these services... We recommend services that we use ourselves

    • 1 hr 30 min
    Essential Apple Podcast 291: WWW is 35 years old!

    Essential Apple Podcast 291: WWW is 35 years old!

    On this show: the World Wide Web turned 35, Nick still has hacker issues, Sonoma bugs, Vision Pro used in neuro surgery, hints that Apple are ramping up on their AI works and more. As ever Simon and Nick have a natter about it all.

    MISSION TO SEAFARERS APPEAL

    The Mission to Seafarers is looking for donations of old, but working, smartphones and internet capable tablets to give seafarers far from home a way to talk to friends and family
    If you have any old smartphones or tablets cluttering your cupboard and drawers why not donate them to this worthy cause? If you are in the UK contact Rev. Andrew Dotchin Vicar@felixparish.com or your nearest Mission to Seafarers Centre, or if you live outside the UK and would like to help, simply visit missiontoseafarers.org and make a donation.

    Why not come and join the Slack community? You can now just click on this Slackroom Link to sign up and join in the chatter!

    Recorded 10th March 2024


    On this week's show
    NICK RILEY

    Spligosh in the Slack
    Sutton Park Circuit church worship on YouTube
    Nick’s church stream videos on You Tube

    APPLE

    The World Wide Web just turned 35 years — and please, stop calling it the Internet – TechRadar
    Vision Pro used in surgery for the first time "to eliminate human error“ – 9to5Mac
    Apple reports AI training breakthrough – Philip Elmer‑DeWitt
    Apple buys startup DarwinAI, adds staff to its AI division, Bloomberg reports – Reuters
    A wrinkle in lawmakers’ plans for TikTok: Finding a willing buyer – CNN
    New macOS Sonoma update is reportedly taking down printers as well as USB Hubs – TechRadar
    Oracle Warns macOS 14.4 Can Cause Java to Terminate Unexpectedly – MacRumors
    Apple is now assembling the 6.1-inch iPhone 15 in Brazil – 9to5Mac
    iOS 18 could bring hearing aid functionality to AirPods Pro – Cult of Mac
    Leaked Apple roadmap hints at iPhone SE 4, foldable iPhone, and AR glasses – TechRadar
    Apple developed chip equivalent to four M2 Ultras for Apple Car – 9to5Mac
    Building Under Regulation – Hardcore Software by Steven Sinofsky

    SECURITY & PRIVACY

    GarageBand update comes with an important security patch – 9to5Mac
    Do an iPhone's 'Journaling Suggestions' Settings Reveal Your Name and Location? – Snopes

    WORTH A CHIRP / ESSENTIAL TIPS

    How to Fix iPhone Messages Indexing [2024] – TechPP


    Essential Apple Recommended Services:

    All Things Secured – Online security made simple by Josh Summers.
    Pixel Privacy – a fabulous resource full of excellent articles and advice on how to protect yourself online.
    Doug.ee Blog for Andy J’s security tips.
    Ghostery – protect yourself from trackers, scripts and ads while browsing.
    Simple Login – Email anonymisation and disposable emails for login/registering with
    33mail.com – Never give out your real email address online again.
    AnonAddy – Disposable email addresses
    Sudo – get up to 9 “avatars” with email addresses, phone numbers and more to mask your online identity. Free for the first year and priced from $0.99 US / £2.50 UK per month thereafter... You get to keep 2 free avatars though.
    ProtonMail – end to end encrypted, open source, based in Switzerland. Prices start from FREE... what more can you ask?
    ProtonVPN – a VPN to go with it perhaps? Prices also starting from nothing!
    Comparitech DNS Leak Test – simple to use and understand VPN leak test.
    Fake Name Generator – so much more than names! Create whole identities (for free) with all the information you could ever need.
    Wire and on the App Stores – free for personal use, open source and end to end encryted messenger and VoIP.
    Pinecast – a fabulous podcast hosting service with costs that start from nothing.

    Essential Apple is not affiliated with or paid to promote any of these services... We recommend services that we use ourselves and feel are either unique or outstanding in their field, or in some cases are just the best value for money in our opinion.

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    • 1 hr 14 min
    Essential Apple Podcast 290: Spats, Hacks & A.I.

    Essential Apple Podcast 290: Spats, Hacks & A.I.

    On the show this time, Nick got hacked! Apple and Epic get into another spat, in which they both came off looking stupid, and childish... Simon and Nick have been playing with A.I. image tools. Apple made modifications to its new EU rules, a man has recovered over 200 Apple Watches from lakes in Illinois and Donny is disappointed in his Zagg pencils for iPads, and of course some other stuff too!

    MISSION TO SEAFARERS APPEAL

    The Mission to Seafarers is looking for donations of old, but working, smartphones and internet capable tablets to give seafarers far from home a way to talk to friends and family
    If you have any old smartphones or tablets cluttering your cupboard and drawers why not donate them to this worthy cause? If you are in the UK contact Rev. Andrew Dotchin Vicar@felixparish.com or your nearest Mission to Seafarers Centre, or if you live outside the UK and would like to help, simply visit missiontoseafarers.org and make a donation.

    Why not come and join the Slack community? You can now just click on this Slackroom Link to sign up and join in the chatter!

    Recorded 10th March 2024


    On this week's show
    NICK RILEY

    Spligosh in the Slack
    Sutton Park Circuit church worship on YouTube
    Nick’s church stream videos on You Tube

    APPLE

    Apple reverses course and clears way for Epic Games to set up rival iPhone app store in Europe – The Independent
    M3 MacBook Air has this one major upgrade Apple didn't advertise – Tom's Guide
    Apple confirms the MacBook Air M3 won't be a fingerprint magnet – TechRadar


    Apple releases MacOS Sonoma 14.4 with a whopping 64 bug fixes – ZDNet
    Apple could be planning a giant, foldable MacBook that doubles as your iPad – TechRadar
    Apple's Box Office Misfires: Are Napoleon, Flower Moon, Argylle Worth it? – Variety
    Apple’s last-minute App Store changes come with a catch – The Verge
    What’s the most popular Mac in the US? Here’s what one study says – 9to5Mac
    HomePod 17.4 Lets Siri Learn Your Default Music Service – iDrop News
    There is no excuse for failing to action Spotify HomePod support – 9to5Mac


    Alternative iOS App Stores Only Work for 'Grace Period' When Traveling – MacRumors
    Apple removes big barrier for rival iPhone app stores – Cult of Mac

    TECHNOLOGY & SCIENCE

    Google is following Apple's lead by adding new developer fees in the EU – Engadget
    Why the hell would Google promise seven years of updates? – Android Central

    WORTH A CHIRP / ESSENTIAL TIPS

    This Simple Trick Helps Stop Your iPhone Apps Tracking You – Living Etc
    I review laptops for a living and this is now the MacBook I recommend – Tom’s Guide
    Zagg Pencil wears out in a day – Donny in the Slackroom

    JUST A SNIPPET
    For things that are not worth more than a flypast


    Over 200 Apple Watches recovered from Illinois lakes by metal detectorist – 9to5Mac
    Colorware delivers a retro makeover with limited edition 'Apple Number 2 Pencil' – 9to5Mac


    Essential Apple Recommended Services:

    All Things Secured – Online security made simple by Josh Summers.
    Pixel Privacy – a fabulous resource full of excellent articles and advice on how to protect yourself online.
    Doug.ee Blog for Andy J’s security tips.
    Ghostery – protect yourself from trackers, scripts and ads while browsing.
    Simple Login – Email anonymisation and disposable emails for login/registering with
    33mail.com – Never give out your real email address online again.
    AnonAddy – Disposable email addresses
    Sudo – get up to 9 “avatars” with email addresses, phone numbers and more to mask your online identity. Free for the first year and priced from $0.99 US / £2.50 UK per month thereafter... You get to keep 2 free avatars though.
    ProtonMail – end to end encrypted, open source, based in Switzerland. Prices start from FREE... what more can you ask?
    ProtonVPN – a VPN to go with it perhaps? Prices also starting from nothing!
    Comparitech DNS Leak Test – simple to use and understand VPN leak test.
    Fake Name Generator –

    • 1 hr 33 min
    Essential Apple Podcast 289: So long Apple car… We never knew you at all!

    Essential Apple Podcast 289: So long Apple car… We never knew you at all!

    This week Simon has a new microphone so hopefully the sound will be a little better. Meanwhile apparently the “Titan has Fallen”, the Apple car project is “officially” dead, Vision Pro returns are no worse than any other Apple product, there is new Post Quantum crytographic protection coming for iMessage, and more! Simon and Nick set to and try to make sense of it all...

    MISSION TO SEAFARERS APPEAL

    The Mission to Seafarers is looking for donations of old, but working, smartphones and internet capable tablets to give seafarers far from home a way to talk to friends and family
    If you have any old smartphones or tablets cluttering your cupboard and drawers why not donate them to this worthy cause? If you are in the UK contact Rev. Andrew Dotchin Vicar@felixparish.com or your nearest Mission to Seafarers Centre, or if you live outside the UK and would like to help, simply visit missiontoseafarers.org and make a donation.

    Why not come and join the Slack community? You can now just click on this Slackroom Link to sign up and join in the chatter!

    Recorded 3rd March 2024


    On this week's show
    NICK RILEY

    Spligosh in the Slack
    Sutton Park Circuit church worship on YouTube
    Nick’s church stream videos on You Tube

    APPLE

    The Apple Car project is reportedly dead – Engadget
    Crash of the Titan: a short history of Apple’s doomed car project – The Verge
    Apple Car project cost Apple $10 billion over a decade of work – AppleInsider
    In loving memory of the Apple Car – Creative Bloq


    Apple Vision Pro return rate is about the same as the iPhone 15 Pro – AppleInsider
    Apple TV+ to get the most exciting sci-fi TV series to be greenlit in years – T3.com
    Apple Wont Remove Home Screen Web Apps From iOS After All – PC Mag UK
    Apple Adds M3 Macs to Its Do-It-Yourself Repair Program – iDrop News
    Ridley Scott’s ‘Napoleon’ movie is now streaming on Apple TV+ – 9to5Mac
    Apple ID could get a branding makeover to Apple Account – Cult of Mac
    Gurman: No Apple Event Planned for Upcoming iPads and Macs – MacRumors
    Apple hit with class action lawsuit over iCloud’s 5GB limit – 9to5Mac
    Zoom Pulls the Plug on Older Versions of iOS – PC Mag UK
    Netflix Subscribers Can No Longer Pay Through Apple’s App Store – MacTrast

    TECHNOLOGY & SCIENCE

    Windows 11 borrowing Apple’s ‘iPhone as a webcam’ feature for Android – 9to5Mac
    No physical buttons, but the bottom of the trackpad still clicks.
    Tap-drag to drag*.
    Three finger swipe up reveals all windows and desktops.
    *The the tap-drag gesture is tragically flawed, however, as it does not have any form of drag lock, so you have to be able to complete the drag in the available area of the trackpad. Which is nowhere near as big as Apple’s.



    SECURITY & PRIVACY


    Blog - iMessage with PQ3: The new state of the art in quantum-secure messaging at scale – Apple



    Dougee Says:
    iMessage lacked post-compromise security.
    In the Signal protocol, your communication keys are constantly updated and “ratcheted” forwards. This means that a compromised phone/backup won’t be useful for long. You’ll replace the stolen keys within a few minutes. In iMessage this wasn’t true: public keys were long-lived.
    The new update adds periodic rekeying using elliptic curve cryptography, to ensure that compromised keys quickly become useless, both in the future and for decrypting past messages. This closes an important threat vector.
    Along with key transparency, this makes iMessage a state-of-the-art cryptographic protocol.
    Even with those improvements, the remaining problem is that elliptic curve crypto is not secure against future quantum computing advances. This doesn’t matter today, but if such computers are built in the future, they could be used to decrypt past conversations.
    So Apple has made two changes in this update.



    Frequent elliptic curve rekeying.



    Second “post quantum secure” algorithm: Kyber.


    This algorithm rekeys as well, but a litt

    • 1 hr 12 min
    Essential Apple Podcast 288: Happy Birthday Steve

    Essential Apple Podcast 288: Happy Birthday Steve

    This week Simon and Nick consider Steve’s birthday and, sadly, two years of war in the Ukraine, plus Post Quantum Cryptography, Apple’s first folding device, some Apple TV+, and an Apple Ring?
    Apologies if the sound is still a little below par, Simon’s new mic didn’t arrive in time for this recording, but hopefully all will be well by the next show.

    MISSION TO SEAFARERS APPEAL

    The Mission to Seafarers is looking for donations of old, but working, smartphones and internet capable tablets to give seafarers far from home a way to talk to friends and family
    If you have any old smartphones or tablets cluttering your cupboard and drawers why not donate them to this worthy cause? If you are in the UK contact Rev. Andrew Dotchin Vicar@felixparish.com or your nearest Mission to Seafarers Centre, or if you live outside the UK and would like to help, simply visit missiontoseafarers.org and make a donation.

    Why not come and join the Slack community? You can now just click on this Slackroom Link to sign up and join in the chatter!

    Recorded 25th February 2024


    On this week's show
    NICK RILEY

    Spligosh in the Slack
    Sutton Park Circuit church worship on YouTube
    Nick’s church stream videos on You Tube

    APPLE

    Steve Jobs Would Have Celebrated His 69th Birthday Today – MacRumors
    Here's how much it costs Apple to make the $3,500 Vision Pro – 9to5Mac
    Critical Mac And iPhone Security Warning—Stop Doing These 3 Things Now – Forbes
    ‘iMessage With PQ3: The New State of the Art in Quantum-Secure Messaging at Scale’ – Daring Fireball
    New iMessage PQ3 Encryption Protocol Protects Against Post-Quantum Attacks – TidBITS
    Apple’s own descriotion of what they’re doing - Apple


    iPhone 15 owners are still having Bluetooth problems – almost 6 months after launch – Tom's Guide
    New Rumor Suggests An Apple Ring Could Be ‘Imminent’ – iDrop News
    Apple's first folding device won't be an iPhone – iMore
    Apple chipmaker moving ahead toward 2nm processors in 2025 – Cult of Mac
    Exclusive: Apple Maps to get a big boost in the UK – iMore
    MASTERS OF THE AIR Is Apple TV+s Most Watched Series Launch Ever – [GeekTyrant]https://geektyrant.com/news/masters-of-the-air-is-apple-tvs-most-watched-series-launch-ever-which-is-great-news)
    Apple TV Plus space thriller Constellation divides opinion – iMore
    Apple's hit sci-fi show is finally set to resume filming following production delays – GamesRadar

    WORTH A CHIRP / ESSENTIAL TIPS

    Sorry But You Need To Stop Using This Old School Phone Hack To Dry Your Phone – HuffPost UK
    Apple debunks common charging myth that people claim could harm your battery – UNILAD
    15 Cool Apple Watch Features You're (Probably) Not Using – iDrop News
    10 iPhone pro tips that are actually helpful – BGR


    Essential Apple Recommended Services:

    All Things Secured – Online security made simple by Josh Summers.
    Pixel Privacy – a fabulous resource full of excellent articles and advice on how to protect yourself online.
    Doug.ee Blog for Andy J’s security tips.
    Ghostery – protect yourself from trackers, scripts and ads while browsing.
    Simple Login – Email anonymisation and disposable emails for login/registering with
    33mail.com – Never give out your real email address online again.
    AnonAddy – Disposable email addresses
    Sudo – get up to 9 “avatars” with email addresses, phone numbers and more to mask your online identity. Free for the first year and priced from $0.99 US / £2.50 UK per month thereafter... You get to keep 2 free avatars though.
    ProtonMail – end to end encrypted, open source, based in Switzerland. Prices start from FREE... what more can you ask?
    ProtonVPN – a VPN to go with it perhaps? Prices also starting from nothing!
    Comparitech DNS Leak Test – simple to use and understand VPN leak test.
    Fake Name Generator – so much more than names! Create whole identities (for free) with all the information you could ever need.
    Wire and on the App Stores – free for perso

    • 1 hr 27 min

Customer Reviews

5.0 out of 5
11 Ratings

11 Ratings

Evanking527 ,

Funny, entertaining, and positive

I live in the US and found your show through Apple News. I now listen to your show every week and enjoy its nice blend of funny moments with current events in technology. I also want to point out the positive nature of the show, since many others don't have the jovial feel as this one does on Apple Podcasts. I find myself smiling at the overall happy nature of the show, and I feel well informed by the end. I have been listening since August, and I look forward to hear what you have to say this September and onward.

teresahummel ,

So glad the crew is back

I was sorely missing the Mac and Forth show when Mark agreed to change from his Rampant Mumblings to Essential Apple. (thanks Mark!) It's great fun to hear you all talking Apple stuff again. The humor is greatly appreciated as I sit in traffic on my way to and from work. One of my favorite podcasts.

Ron.P ,

the new mac and forth show

This show is a great place to find out what is going on in the world of apple. With almost the entire crew from the mac and forth show there it was great. Even the same sound board. Great job.

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