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Jim and Mark use the insane ramblings of a tiny-handed narcissist to explain logical fallacies. Each episode we focus on a single logical fallacy and, using examples from Trump, UK politics and pop culture, explore how and why it fools people, how to avoid committing it yourself, and how to counter it in an argument.

Fallacious Trump Jim & Mark

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Jim and Mark use the insane ramblings of a tiny-handed narcissist to explain logical fallacies. Each episode we focus on a single logical fallacy and, using examples from Trump, UK politics and pop culture, explore how and why it fools people, how to avoid committing it yourself, and how to counter it in an argument.

    Moral Equivalence (Redux) FT#147

    Moral Equivalence (Redux) FT#147

    In the one hundred and forty seventh episode we take another look at the Moral Equivalence Fallacy, starting with Trump comparing January 6 insurrectionists with BLM protestors, Dinesh D'Souza comparing Trump to Navalny, and Matthew Dowd comparing sexual assault to mishandling emails.
    In Mark's British Politics Corner we look at Shelagh Fogarty comparing silence over ministerial misdeeds to hiding in a fridge, and Rishi Sunak and Sam Armstrong equating pro-Palestinian protestors with war criminals, and .
    In the Fallacy in the Wild section, we check out examples from Halt and Catch Fire, Criminal Minds, and The I.T. Crowd.
    Jim and Mark go head to head in Fake News, the game in which Mark has to guess which one of three Trump quotes Jim made up.
    Then we talk about Trump's insane Presidential Records Act defense in his Florida trial.
    And finally, we round up some of the other crazy Trump stories from the past week.
    The full show notes for this episode can be found at https://fallacioustrump.com/ft147 
    You can contact the guys at pod@fallacioustrump.com, on Twitter @FallaciousTrump, or facebook at facebook.com/groups/fallacioustrump


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    • 1 hr 36 min
    Obfuscation - FT#146

    Obfuscation - FT#146

    In the one hundred and forty sixth episode we explore the Obfuscation Fallacy, starting with Trump badly clarifying his support for Putin, Trump's Doctors pretending he wasn't given supplemental oxygen when being treated for COVID, and Kevin McCarthy denying something nobody accused him of.
    In Mark's British Politics Corner we look at Boris being suitably vague about his plans to run for leader and his missing WhatsApp messages, Mark Harper and Graham Stuart being unclear repeatedly about whether Lee Anderson and Frank Hester said racist things.
    In the Fallacy in the Wild section, we check out examples from That Mitchell & Webb Look, Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home, and Shrek the Third.
    Jim and Mark go head to head in Fake News, the game in which Mark has to guess which one of three Trump quotes Jim made up.
    Then we talk about what's going on with Trump's various court cases.
    And finally, we round up some of the other crazy Trump stories from the past week.
    The full show notes for this episode can be found at https://fallacioustrump.com/ft146 
    You can contact the guys at pod@fallacioustrump.com, on Twitter @FallaciousTrump, or facebook at facebook.com/groups/fallacioustrump


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    • 1 hr 25 min
    Affirming the Consequent - FT#145

    Affirming the Consequent - FT#145

    In the one hundred and forty fifth episode we explore the Affirming the Consequent Fallacy, starting with Trump claiming more COVID proved their testing was better, Fake News was perfect for CNN, and the Democrats were damaging the country.
    In Mark's British Politics Corner we look at Liberal Democrat MP Munira Wilson questioning Matt Hancock's motives for abolishing Public Health England and Lard Marland defending Tory donor Frank Hester against accusations of racism.
    In the Fallacy in the Wild section, we check out examples from ALF, Cheers, and Monty Python and the Holy Grail.
    Jim and Mark go head to head in Fake News, the game in which Mark has to guess which one of three Trump quotes Jim made up.
    Then we talk about Biden's SOTU and Katie Britt's response, and all the other court thingies which went badly for Trump since last we spoke.
    And finally, we round up some of the other crazy Trump stories from the past week.
    The full show notes for this episode can be found at https://fallacioustrump.com/ft145
    You can contact the guys at pod@fallacioustrump.com, on Twitter @FallaciousTrump, or facebook at facebook.com/groups/fallacioustrump


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    • 1 hr 20 min
    Denying the Antecedent - FT#144

    Denying the Antecedent - FT#144

    In the one hundred and forty fourth episode we explore the Denying the Antecedent Fallacy, starting with Trump's lawyers claiming he's immune, Trump claiming Mueller had no evidence against him, and Rep. Debbie Lesko trying to 'gotcha' Robert Mueller.
    In Mark's British Politics Corner we look at Margaret Thatcher claiming the source of satisfaction is hard work, Kier Starmer claiming George Galloway wouldn't have won in Rochdale if they'd had a candidate, and Robert Jenrick claiming immigrants can't integrate into society if there's too many of them.
    In the Fallacy in the Wild section, we check out examples from Little Miss Sunshine, Animaniacs, and American Dad.
    Jim and Mark go head to head in Fake News, the game in which Mark has to guess which one of three Trump quotes Jim made up.
    Then we talk about the Supreme Court taking up Trump's immunity case, and all the other court thingies which went badly for Trump since last we spoke.
    And finally, we round up some of the other crazy Trump stories from the past week.
    The full show notes for this episode can be found at https://fallacioustrump.com/ft144
    You can contact the guys at pod@fallacioustrump.com, on Twitter @FallaciousTrump, or facebook at facebook.com/groups/fallacioustrump


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    • 1 hr 22 min
    Playing Politics - FT#143

    Playing Politics - FT#143

    In the one hundred and forty third episode we explore the Playing Politics Fallacy, starting with Trump blaming the border security related shutdown on Democrats and accusing them of blocking funding for the Paycheck Protection Program before we hear Jim Jordan, Ted Cruz and Bill Eiger avoid the gun control debate by clutching their pearls about Democrats politicizing mass shootings.
    In Mark's British Politics Corner we look at Rishi Sunak repeatedly accusing Kier Starmer of playing politics to deflect attention from all the playing politics that Rishi is doing, then hear Jacob Rees-Mogg attack UNICEF for feeding poor British children.
    In the Fallacy in the Wild section, we check out examples from The Shield, Don't Look Up, and The West Wing.
    Jim and Mark go head to head in Fake News, the game in which Mark has to guess which one of three Trump quotes Jim made up.
    Then we talk about the $355 million that Trump is now required to pay New York and all the other court thingies which went badly for Trump since last we spoke.
    And finally, we round up some of the other crazy Trump stories from the past week.
    The full show notes for this episode can be found at https://fallacioustrump.com/ft143
    You can contact the guys at pod@fallacioustrump.com, on Twitter @FallaciousTrump, or facebook at facebook.com/groups/fallacioustrump


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    • 1 hr 45 min
    Schrödinger's Idiot - FT#142

    Schrödinger's Idiot - FT#142

    In the one hundred and forty second episode we explore the Schrödinger's Idiot Fallacy, starting with Trump deflecting criticism for asking Russia to hack Hillary's emails, suggesting people inject disinfectant and getting Biden's name wrong.
    In Mark's British Politics Corner we look at 30p Lee Anderson joking about people wanting to go to Bradford, and Avanti West Coast not being serious enough about their bonus structure.
    In the Fallacy in the Wild section, we check out examples from Peep Show, Kevin Can F**k Himself, The Simpsons, and Andrew Tate.
    Jim and Mark go head to head in Fake News, the game in which Mark has to guess which one of three Trump quotes Jim made up.
    Then we talk about the $83.3 million that Trump is now required to pay E Jean Carroll.
    And finally, we round up some of the other crazy Trump stories from the past week.
    The full show notes for this episode can be found at https://fallacioustrump.com/ft142
    You can contact the guys at pod@fallacioustrump.com, on Twitter @FallaciousTrump, or facebook at facebook.com/groups/fallacioustrump


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    • 1 hr 35 min

Customer Reviews

4.6 out of 5
52 Ratings

52 Ratings

state your case ,

So entertaining

Saw you two at Skepticamp when I went to QED and thoroughly enjoyed your talk. I’m going through the backlog of episodes now and, while TFG’s voice makes me nauseated, this show is worth the drawback of having to listen to him spew nonsense.

Smsdry ,

Fake News is a hilarious segment

It’s truly difficult to guess which quote is fake, and hilarious to hear which quotes are real. And I’ve learned more about making logical arguments when having discussions with others.

aristole503 ,

Trump was a provocateur

Trump was a provocateur sent to increase tribalism, demonized dissent and destroy domestic tranquility. His obnoxiousness was by design. The tell was when he was running and people were protesting corporate tycoons running for president- he said “ get him punch him in the face”- text book provocateur. He wasn’t fighting the elites, he was working for them, a reality tv star, a provocateur playing the role of a president.

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