Federal power vs. federalism: Gov. Kevin Stitt’s moment on the national stage | Oklahoma Memo Podcast

This week: Ryan Welton sits down with Grant Hermes (Make It Make Sense with Grant Hermes) to unpack a fast-moving national story with Oklahoma fingerprints — and the bigger questions it raises about federal power, state authority, and civil liberties.

What we cover

1. Why Gov. Kevin Stitt’s role as chair of the National Governors Association matters

2. The White House meeting controversy and why Stitt publicly pushed back

3. The “governors are different” dynamic — why red and blue governors sometimes close ranks

4. Federalism in plain English: who controls what — and why it’s flaring up again

5. The new masking debate: protesters, legislation, and why identification rules aren’t applied evenly

6. A discussion of voting-law proposals and what critics argue are the real downstream effects

Mentioned in the episode

1. Grant’s newsletter: Things You Forgot From Civics Class

2. Grant’s new newsletter: Make It Make Nonsense

3. The Make It Make Sense podcast (search: “MIMSpod”)

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3. https://mimsnewspod.substack.com/

4. https://www.youtube.com/@MIMSnewspod