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Welcome to the forge! Ron explores the world of adversity and doing hard things. In a world that has gone soft, here in the forge, we discuss the hard.

Mettle is that uncanny ability to face a demanding situation in a spirited and resilient way and remain calm in the storm.

Each week, he interviews elite athletes, entrepreneurs, business leaders, researchers and academics that have been through the fire and came out the other side, stronger and better for the experience.

Join him as he works to unlock the secrets of how to embrace adversity, cultivate savoring and live our best lives!

Forging Mettle Podcast Ronald Duren Jr

    • Education
    • 4.9 • 14 Ratings

Welcome to the forge! Ron explores the world of adversity and doing hard things. In a world that has gone soft, here in the forge, we discuss the hard.

Mettle is that uncanny ability to face a demanding situation in a spirited and resilient way and remain calm in the storm.

Each week, he interviews elite athletes, entrepreneurs, business leaders, researchers and academics that have been through the fire and came out the other side, stronger and better for the experience.

Join him as he works to unlock the secrets of how to embrace adversity, cultivate savoring and live our best lives!

    080 | Janey McGill | Live great adventure stories

    080 | Janey McGill | Live great adventure stories

    Our guest today is Janey McGill. She has been a lawyer, a soldier and an art dealer. But not at the same time. She is now a filmmaker, an explorer, a speaker and a designer. After years of experimenting and searching for fulfillment she has crafted a life that brings her joy and purpose. 

    She's led a somewhat unconventional life. The ‘things’ society deem important, she often doesn't. Making choices with her heart leads to incredible learning and adventure. The consequences of those decisions and the circumstance of her life prompt much introspection and self-examination.  As she says, "Arguably too much" at times.

    She’s had her back broken from a horse riding accident and came back better. She’s walked hundreds of miles in the pursuit of meaning and giving back. She recently finished filming a documentary about planning and executing the greatest escape to the Arabian desert with a team of eastern and western strangers to deliver a message that we are ‘better together’ regardless of gender, culture or identity…

    This was such a delightful conversation with a delightful soul. Enjoy the show, please drop a rating or review if you feel moved.



    Website: https://www.janeymcgill.com/

    • 1 hr 6 min
    079 | Emilia Elisabet Lahti | The yin and yang of strength and gentleness

    079 | Emilia Elisabet Lahti | The yin and yang of strength and gentleness

    This week we welcome my "SISU sister" to the forge. Elisabet and I have so much alignment around the concepts of doing hard things, overcoming adversity, being tough and staying the course. But to also make room for changing course when needed, softness, gentleness, compassion for yourself and those we lead. You will come away with ideas of how we can be both tough and gentle, and why we should. This is the leadership model of the future. We discuss what it means to honor yourself. And that pushing on is not always the best choice.

    Show notes:

    Elisabet is an international presenter on topics related to positive psychology, courage, leadership, and high performance. She is also a transformational mindset coach supporting individuals who are committed to cultivating compassionate leadership and integrity in their daily lives

    She conducted her PhD research for the Finland-based Aalto University School of Science and Technology in which she is pioneered the research on the ancient Finnish construct of sisu, which denotes courage and determination in the face of extreme adversity and the ability to unlock hidden inner strength when it is needed (find the research paper on embodied fortitude here and its press release here).

    Elisabet´s work has been featured by The New Yorker, Business Insider, Scientific American, BBC, and Forbes among others. Elisabet has given talks at Fortune500 companies such as Facebook and Salesforce, as well as Stanford University, The International World Congress on Positive Psychology, The Consciousness Summit, TEDx, and Singularity University at NASA Ames in Mountain View, California, where she also studied futurism and exponential technologies while attending their Global Solutions Programme.

    Elisabet has a master's degree in social psychology from the University of Tampere in Finland and in a master's degree in applied positive psychology from the University of Pennsylvania, USA. She is a former student of Dr Martin Seligman and began her master thesis work on sisu was advised by research professor Dr Angela Duckworth in 2013.

    Her personal life mission involves being a catalyst for human connection and compassion. She believes it is our collective responsibility to create socially warm, inviting spaces that empower people to reach their fullest potential. Elisabet enjoys facilitating meaningful connections across geographical, cultural, and disciplinary boundaries and has been hosting story circles and women's groups since 2013.



    Website: https://www.sisulab.com/

    Buy the book! https://www.amazon.com/Gentle-Power-Revolution-Succeed-Finnish/dp/1683649699

    • 1 hr 10 min
    078 | Jason Van Camp | Hard is coming your way

    078 | Jason Van Camp | Hard is coming your way

    As the author of a bestselling book with the title, "Deliberate Discomfort," you can imagine our guest today is a perfect fit for the Forging Mettle podcast. Jason Van Camp is a former special forces soldier and now teaches people how to proactively seek out hard things through his company Mission Six Zero. In this discussion I was fascinated by Jason's origin story of his company, how he talks about failure, and what he believes we need to do to live our best lives.

    Show notes:

    Jason B.A. Van Camp is what Malcolm Gladwell would refer to as an Outlier; an exceptional person who is successful not just because of his personal accomplishments but because of his will to win and the unique ability and willingness to unlock the potential of others. A decorated Green Beret, world traveler, entrepreneur, author, and loyal friend, Jason has mastered the art of storytelling that reflects many of his own life adventures.

    Jason is the chairman of “mission six zero.” He is also the executive director of Warrior Rising, which is a non-profit that empowers U.S. military veterans.



    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jason-van-camp/

    Mission Six Zero: https://missionsixzero.com/

    Warrior Rising: https://www.warriorrising.org/

    Buy the book: https://www.amazon.com/Deliberate-Discomfort-Operations-Comfortable-Uncomfortable/dp/1733428011

    • 50 min
    077 | Lisa Jaster | Be awesome at whatever you decide to do

    077 | Lisa Jaster | Be awesome at whatever you decide to do

    Today's guest is our first Army Ranger on the show. Even though she was a trailblazer for women, I purposely left out that "adjective" of being female. Lisa recently published her book, "Delete the Adjective: Soldier's Adventures in Ranger School." I think you are going to find her approach to excellence, raising kids, controlled suffering and doing hard things and facing adversity.

    Show notes:

    Army Lieutenant Colonel Lisa Jaster is a soldier, an engineer, a wife and mother, and a trailblazer. One of only three women to graduate from the first integrated United States Army Ranger program—one of the most difficult combat training courses in the world—Lisa was the first female Army Reserve officer to become Ranger qualified.

    Lisa, a fitness fanatic who continues to train CrossFit and Brazilian Jiu Jitsu, has a hard-won understanding of the importance of perseverance, as well as a deeply ingrained respect for camaraderie stemming from a seven-year-long active duty career (including tours in Iraq and Afghanistan).



    Website: https://deletetheadjective.com/

    Buy the book: Today's guest is our first Army Ranger on the show. Even though she is was a trailblazer for women, I purposely left out that "adjective." Lisa recently published her book, "Delete the Adjective: Soldier's Adventures in Ranger School." I think you are going to find her approach to excellence, raising kids, controlled suffering and doing hard things and facing adversity.

    Show notes:

    Army Lieutenant Colonel Lisa Jaster is a soldier, an engineer, a wife and mother, and a trailblazer. One of only three women to graduate from the first integrated United States Army Ranger program—one of the most difficult combat training courses in the world—Lisa was the first female Army Reserve officer to become Ranger qualified.

    Lisa, a fitness fanatic who continues to train CrossFit and Brazilian Jiu Jitsu, has a hard-won understanding of the importance of perseverance, as well as a deeply ingrained respect for camaraderie stemming from a seven-year-long active duty career (including tours in Iraq and Afghanistan).



    Website: ⁠https://deletetheadjective.com/⁠

    Buy the book: ⁠https://www.amazon.com/Delete-Adjective-Soldiers-Adventures-Ranger/dp/1544536445

    • 59 min
    076 | Bev Weintraub | Earning wings of gold the hard way

    076 | Bev Weintraub | Earning wings of gold the hard way

    In today's show we talk about female aviators forging a path for those who followed. They were instrumental to having the combat aviation exclusion for women finally removed. Our guest, Bev Weintraub, has written the first book detailing their incredible historical journey. This story includes head shaking moments, great courage, humility and perseverance. 

    Show notes: 

    Beverly Weintraub is a Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist and instrument-rated private pilot. As an editorial writer for the New York Daily News, she covered topics including education, social services and aviation. She shared the 2007 Pulitzer for Editorial Writing for an in-depth investigation into the illnesses afflicting World Trade Center rescue and recovery workers after 9/11.

    Her book, “Wings of Gold: The Story of the First Women Naval Aviators” debuts with a meticulous and often infuriating chronicle of the obstacles faced by the first six women to earn their naval aviation wings in the early 1970s.

    Website: https://www.beverlyweintraub.com/

    Book: Wings of Gold: The Story of the First Women Naval Aviators

    • 42 min
    075 | Massimo Pigliucci | Our quest for leaders of character

    075 | Massimo Pigliucci | Our quest for leaders of character

    Today's guest is Massimo Pigliucci. In his latest book, "The Quest for Character: What the Story of Socrates and Alcibiades Teaches Us about Our Search for Good Leaders," he looks at lessons of leadership and politics from ancient Greece. What is character? Is it something we are born with or can we develop it? We wade into compelling topics like wealth, power, greed, cooperation and competition. No discussion about character can skip over politics. Enjoy the show! 

    Show notes:

    Massimo has a PhD in Evolutionary Biology from the University of Connecticut and a PhD in Philosophy from the University of Tennessee. 

    He is currently a Professor of Philosophy at the City College of New York. His research interests include the philosophy of science, the nature of pseudoscience, and practical philosophies like Stoicism and New Skepticism. He is also a prolific author. 

    Buy the book:"The Quest for Character: What the Story of Socrates and Alcibiades Teaches Us about Our Search for Good Leaders"

    Website: https://massimopigliucci.org/

    Documentary (Trailer) mentioned by Massimo..."Young Plato"

    https://www.imdb.com/video/vi709280537/?ref_=tt_vi_i_1

    • 1 hr 3 min

Customer Reviews

4.9 out of 5
14 Ratings

14 Ratings

tambarlette ,

Outstanding Podcast

This is an outstanding podcast and Ron is a consummate professional. What is great about this podcast is that Ron is already an expert in his field, yet shows wisdom by seeking more perspectives and sharing what he and other experts have learned. His interviews are engaging and informative and he knows how to guide the conversation. If you are looking for solid advice on how to face adversity and doing hard things, Forging Mettle is an excellent resource!

juliet n h ,

Such a great conversation

Ron has a wonderful way for bring the best out of his guests. This podcast makes you think, makes you ask questions and keeps you curious! A must listen!

Author David Richman ,

Completely inspiring

I’m not just a recent guest, but I’m a listener, too. Ron puts hard work into bringing his audience great conversations about what it takes to get from “here to there.” We all know it takes mettle and drive to accomplish big things, and Ron and his guests talk frankly about their experiences and the lessons learned that we can all apply to our journeys. - David

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