13 episodes

Find it frustrating to keep up with tech? Every episode, Casual Chat breaks down recent developments in tech such that casual listeners (i.e. you) can understand their implications (while being entertained).

Casual Chat Andrew Liu & Hongbo Tian

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Find it frustrating to keep up with tech? Every episode, Casual Chat breaks down recent developments in tech such that casual listeners (i.e. you) can understand their implications (while being entertained).

    #13: How to Effectively Pitch Anything

    #13: How to Effectively Pitch Anything

    Hong and Andrew do a book review of Pitch Anything, by Oren Klaff, which covers the emotional aspects of pitching that everybody gets wrong.

    Show notes:


    00:35 - Introducing Pitch Anything
    00:55 - The shortcomings of the methodical personality
    02:02 - The problem with (Hong’s) scientific writing
    03:02 - A human nature book disguised as a pitching book
    04:00 - The problem of projecting neediness
    05:01 - The social consequences of eating another man’s apple
    06:37 - The primal Lizard Brain vs. the logical Ape Brain
    08:16 - How to get past the lizard brain’s defenses
    10:14 - The curse of knowledge
    11:24 - How car commercials hook your reptilian mind
    12:38 - Painting a picture in the mind to sell your pitch
    13:58 - Parallels to the book “Thinking, Fast and Slow”
    16:41 - How to apply human nature insights to a real pitch
    17:25 - Pitching to someone who really needs to pee
    19:00 - Balancing positive and negative emotion in a pitch
    19:45 - Playing the Good Cop and the Bad Cop
    21:20 - The cross-cultural value of wild pitching stories
    22:10 - The dire pitching consequences of projecting neediness
    23:22 - The problem with neediness in all areas of life
    24:35 - Don’t lose sight of the transactional aspect of your pitch
    26:58 - The inherent selfishness of displaying neediness
    27:30 - Don’t fear all negativity, use it as a tool
    28:48 - Translating the Mad Men boardroom into the civilized world
    30:36 - Separating the gold from the ore

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    Casual Chat: https://twitter.com/TheCasualChat
    Andrew: https://twitter.com/liuandrewk
    Hong: https://twitter.com/c0fpv

    • 32 min
    #12: The Case for Tracking Every Minute of Your Life

    #12: The Case for Tracking Every Minute of Your Life

    Ever have those moments where you feel like the day just flew by? Our chatters felt the same way and wanted to learn more. Hongbo (@c0fpv) shares his reasons for time tracking his daily life and compares it with how Andrew (@liuandrewk) has recently started time tracking.

    Links:


    The time tracking app that Andrew uses: https://toggl.com/track/
    The time tracking app that Hongbo uses: https://clockify.me/

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    Casual Chat: https://twitter.com/TheCasualChat
    Andrew: https://twitter.com/liuandrewk
    Hong: https://twitter.com/c0fpv

    • 57 min
    #11: Apple and Intel's Nasty Breakup

    #11: Apple and Intel's Nasty Breakup

    Andrew (@liuandrewk) and Hong (@c0fpv) chat about Apple's departure from Intel CPUs and Intel's attempts to get back into the limelight. The conversation then delves into a tangent about upgrading to Windows 11.

    Links:


    Intel's anti-Apple ad: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xp0xzapm-zY
    Intel's CEO wants to win Apple back: https://finance.yahoo.com/news/intel-ceo-my-job-is-to-win-apple-back-205012699.html
    Window's 11 system requirements: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/windows-11-specifications

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    Casual Chat: https://twitter.com/TheCasualChat
    Andrew: https://twitter.com/liuandrewk
    Hong: https://twitter.com/c0fpv

    • 18 min
    #10: A Disastrous Week for Facebook

    #10: A Disastrous Week for Facebook

    Facebook's been having a rough week. On October 4, 2021, there was a complete outage of all Facebook-owned systems, including Instagram and WhatsApp. The next day, a whistleblower testifies before congress about how Facebook prioritizes profits over public safety, implying that the company may have been complicit with the storming of the Capitol Building earlier in the year. Andrew (@liuandrewk) and Hong (@c0fpv) opine about the whole debacle and discuss whether this news is evening surprising in the first place...

    Links:


    ARM China splits from ARM UK: https://semianalysis.substack.com/p/the-semiconductor-heist-of-the-century
    ProtonMail amends its policy after giving up data to the feds: https://www.wired.com/story/protonmail-amends-policy-after-giving-up-activists-data/
    Prior research shows that Instagram is in fact unhealthy for adolescents: https://www.wsj.com/articles/facebook-knows-instagram-is-toxic-for-teen-girls-company-documents-show-11631620739
    The whistleblower Frances Haugen testifies before congress: https://www.npr.org/2021/10/05/1043377310/facebook-whistleblower-frances-haugen-congress
    Facebook engineering's official blog post on how the site-wide outage occurred: https://engineering.fb.com/2021/10/05/networking-traffic/outage-details/
    Mark Zuckerberg's response to the whole debacle: https://www.facebook.com/4/posts/10113961365418581/?d=n

    Follow us on Twitter:


    Casual Chat: https://twitter.com/TheCasualChat
    Andrew: https://twitter.com/liuandrewk
    Hong: https://twitter.com/c0fpv

    • 34 min
    #9: A Tale of Two Betrayals - ARM China goes Rogue, ProtonMail sells out activist's data

    #9: A Tale of Two Betrayals - ARM China goes Rogue, ProtonMail sells out activist's data

    The company behind ARM processors is currently in disarray. The business has split up into two independent companies, and their CEO is holed up in China. Andrew (@liuandrewk) and Hong (@c0fpv) go over the hilarious story that caused the company to be in these circumstances. Later, they discuss how ProtonMail (the so-called "privacy" email provider) has given out user data, and what it means to have a realistic view of privacy.

    Links:


    ARM China splits from ARM UK: https://semianalysis.substack.com/p/the-semiconductor-heist-of-the-century
    ProtonMail amends its policy after giving up data to the feds: https://www.wired.com/story/protonmail-amends-policy-after-giving-up-activists-data/

    Follow us on Twitter:


    Casual Chat: https://twitter.com/TheCasualChat
    Andrew: https://twitter.com/liuandrewk
    Hong: https://twitter.com/c0fpv

    • 38 min
    #8: How to Make Software Engineers Obsolete

    #8: How to Make Software Engineers Obsolete

    Github has released a new editor tool called Copilot. It claims to be able to generate code for entire functions. Andrew (@liuandrewk) and Hong (@c0fpv) explore whether Copilot will live up to the hype and the future of licensing issues around training machine learning models off of source code.

    Links:


    GitHub Copilot's Official Website: https://copilot.github.com/
    Licensing Concerns with Copilot: https://twitter.com/liuandrewk/status/1412818109329707011

    Follow us on Twitter:


    Casual Chat: https://twitter.com/TheCasualChat
    Andrew: https://twitter.com/liuandrewk
    Hong: https://twitter.com/c0fpv

    • 23 min

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