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We talk about human behaviour and decision-making with an investment slant. And tell terrible jokes.ย Join us as we dive into the trenches with industry innovators, academics and mavericks.

Decision Nerds Paul Richards & Joe Wiggins

    • Business
    • 5.0 โ€ข 4 Ratings

We talk about human behaviour and decision-making with an investment slant. And tell terrible jokes.ย Join us as we dive into the trenches with industry innovators, academics and mavericks.

    Underperformance - everyone's got a plan until they're hit in the face

    Underperformance - everyone's got a plan until they're hit in the face

    ๐—›๐—ผ๐˜„ ๐—บ๐˜‚๐—ฐ๐—ต ๐˜๐—ถ๐—บ๐—ฒ ๐—ฑ๐—ผ ๐˜†๐—ผ๐˜‚ ๐—ด๐—ถ๐˜ƒ๐—ฒ ๐—ฎ๐—ป ๐˜‚๐—ป๐—ฑ๐—ฒ๐—ฟ๐—ฝ๐—ฒ๐—ฟ๐—ณ๐—ผ๐—ฟ๐—บ๐—ถ๐—ป๐—ด ๐—ถ๐—ป๐˜ƒ๐—ฒ๐˜€๐˜๐—บ๐—ฒ๐—ป๐˜ ๐—บ๐—ฎ๐—ป๐—ฎ๐—ด๐—ฒ๐—ฟ?
    1. Hire a manager after a period of strong performance.
    2. Watch in horror as you donโ€™t experience that outcome, maybe the opposite.
    3. Spend a huge amount of time and emotional labour deciding on whether your initial thesis was wrong, something has changed at the manager, or with market dynamics.
    4. After sucking up a huge amount of governance time, decide to sack the manager.ย 
    5. Rinse and repeat with potentially similar outcomes.

    Now that might not be you, but it is a story that plays out regularly.

    Experiencing underperformance is one of the unavoidable realities of hiring an active manager. And itโ€™s painful for everyone; clients, managers and advisers. And badly managed pain creates some predictably bad outcomes for all parties.

    One important and manageable issue is time horizon mismatch. And this is what and I explore in the latest episode of Decision Nerds. We discuss

    ๐—ช๐—ต๐˜† ๐—ถ๐—ป๐˜ƒ๐—ฒ๐˜€๐˜๐—บ๐—ฒ๐—ป๐˜ ๐—ฒ๐—ฑ๐—ด๐—ฒ ๐—ถ๐˜€ ๐—ป๐—ผ๐˜ ๐—ฒ๐—ป๐—ผ๐˜‚๐—ด๐—ต โ€“ managers need an appropriate amount of time to let their edge play out. It may be longer than you think.

    ๐—ง๐—ต๐—ฒ ๐—•๐˜‚๐˜…๐˜๐—ผ๐—ป ๐—œ๐—ป๐—ฑ๐—ฒ๐˜… โ€“ a simple way of articulating time frames that would help everyone.

    ๐—˜๐˜ƒ๐—ฒ๐—ฟ๐˜†๐—ผ๐—ป๐—ฒ ๐—ต๐—ฎ๐˜€ ๐—ฎ ๐—ฝ๐—น๐—ฎ๐—ป ๐˜‚๐—ป๐˜๐—ถ๐—น ๐˜๐—ต๐—ฒ๐˜† ๐—ฎ๐—ฟ๐—ฒ ๐—ต๐—ถ๐˜ ๐—ถ๐—ป ๐˜๐—ต๐—ฒ ๐—ณ๐—ฎ๐—ฐ๐—ฒ โ€“ we posit that most peopleโ€™s ability to predict how they will deal with the pressure of underperformance wonโ€™t reflect reality when things get tough.
    We talk about the distinct behavioural pressures facing clients, advisers and managers and what they might consider doing to make things easier. A couple of takeaways if you donโ€™t have time to listen.


    ๐—–๐—น๐—ถ๐—ฒ๐—ป๐˜๐˜€ - what is your real capacity for tolerating underperformance, how do you know this?
    ๐— ๐—ฎ๐—ป๐—ฎ๐—ด๐—ฒ๐—ฟ๐˜€ - have a clear view of the timeframe your results should be judged over. Whilst this a tough problem, if you donโ€™t have a view, one will be forced on you.
    ๐—”๐—ฑ๐˜ƒ๐—ถ๐˜€๐—ฒ๐—ฟ๐˜€ - is your role to be a behavioural bulwark and help clients through this period, or just keep them happy? They are not always the same thing.


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    • 38 min
    The other F word

    The other F word

    Thinking and talking about failure can be tough, especially when itโ€™s us whoโ€™s failing.ย  But itโ€™s important for us as individuals and investment teams to find a way to do this in an effective manner that allows us to both learn and evolve. In this episode of Decisions Nerdsโ€ฆย 
    - Joe pits his inner Brian Blessed against an AI auto-editorย 
    - We examine Joeโ€™s framework for thinking about errors around investment beliefs, processes and outcomes.
    - We then think about this in the context of broader research that thinks about different typologies of errors; basic, complex and intelligent.ย 
    - We then discuss the practical steps that can make life easier.ย 

    • 36 min
    Christmas behaviour

    Christmas behaviour

    We downed some eggnog and decided to record an impromptu Christmas special. We have a chat about how insights from behavioural science might help the festive holidays proceed more smoothly:
    ย ๐Ÿ˜‚ย  Why Joe's team might think (in his own words) that heโ€™s an โ€˜egotistical a*&holeโ€™.
    ๐Ÿ˜งย  A simple way to feel better about Christmas (but you might not like it).
    ๐Ÿ˜ ย  The nudges that retailers use to get us to buy.ย 
    ๐Ÿ’ตย  Gift cards or cash as a present โ€“ to constrain or not to constrain?
    ๐Ÿค”ย  Do New Yearโ€™s resolutions get a bad rap and how can we can structure them to give a better chance of success?
    ๐Ÿฟ Our favourite Christmas movie as a metaphor for decision-making and a gift that helps people understand their value to the world.

    Wherever you are, however you celebrate (or donโ€™t), we hope that you have get some high-quality time with family and friends over the festive period.ย 
    ย Weโ€™ll see you on the other side.

    • 22 min
    Principled? Does power corrupt and absolute power corrupt absolutely?

    Principled? Does power corrupt and absolute power corrupt absolutely?

    Following the publication of a new book, 'The Fund', Ray Dalio and Bridgewater have been getting attention for all the wrong reasons. The book alleges a toxic culture where the reality of day-to-day life doesnโ€™t match that described in Dalioโ€™s book, โ€˜Principlesโ€™.ย 
    In this episode of Decision Nerds, we dive into the sludge and extract some key points that are relevant for organisations and teams. Key takeaways:

    #๐Ÿญ ๐——๐—ผ๐—ปโ€™๐˜ ๐—ฎ๐˜€๐˜€๐˜‚๐—บ๐—ฒ ๐˜„๐—ต๐—ฎ๐˜ ๐˜„๐—ผ๐—ฟ๐—ธ๐˜€ ๐—ณ๐—ผ๐—ฟ ๐—ผ๐˜๐—ต๐—ฒ๐—ฟ๐˜€ ๐˜„๐—ถ๐—น๐—น ๐˜„๐—ผ๐—ฟ๐—ธ ๐—ณ๐—ผ๐—ฟ ๐˜†๐—ผ๐˜‚
    Itโ€™s tempting to look at something that appears to be working for someone else and try and replicate it. This is harder than we think โ€“ especially when it involves culture.

    #๐Ÿฎ ๐—›๐—ผ๐˜„ ๐—ณ๐—ฒ๐—ฒ๐—ฑ๐—ฏ๐—ฎ๐—ฐ๐—ธ ๐—ถ๐˜€ ๐—ฎ๐—ฝ๐—ฝ๐—ฟ๐—ผ๐—ฎ๐—ฐ๐—ต๐—ฒ๐—ฑ ๐—บ๐—ฎ๐˜๐˜๐—ฒ๐—ฟ๐˜€
    We all need feedback to learn and develop - how it's given matters. Systems like 'Radical Transparency' may work for some people, but not all people. Probably not most people.ย 

    #๐Ÿฏ ๐—”๐—ฐ๐—ฐ๐˜‚๐—ฟ๐—ฎ๐˜๐—ฒ ๐—ณ๐—ฒ๐—ฒ๐—ฑ๐—ฏ๐—ฎ๐—ฐ๐—ธ ๐—ถ๐˜€ ๐—ฝ๐—ฟ๐—ผ๐—ฏ๐—ฎ๐—ฏ๐—น๐˜† ๐—บ๐—ผ๐˜€๐˜ ๐—ถ๐—บ๐—ฝ๐—ผ๐—ฟ๐˜๐—ฎ๐—ป๐˜ ๐—ณ๐—ผ๐—ฟ ๐—น๐—ฒ๐—ฎ๐—ฑ๐—ฒ๐—ฟ๐˜€
    We often focus feedback on helping junior colleagues learn. Of course that is valuable. However, leaders make key decisions and set the cultural tone and strategic direction. Their greater impact means that they need clear feedback on whether what they are doing is working/where they could develop.

    #๐Ÿฐ ๐—ฃ๐—ผ๐˜„๐—ฒ๐—ฟ ๐—ฎ๐˜€๐˜†๐—บ๐—บ๐—ฒ๐˜๐—ฟ๐—ถ๐—ฒ๐˜€ ๐—บ๐—ฒ๐—ฎ๐—ป ๐˜๐—ต๐—ฎ๐˜ ๐—น๐—ฒ๐—ฎ๐—ฑ๐—ฒ๐—ฟ๐˜€ ๐—ผ๐—ณ๐˜๐—ฒ๐—ป ๐—ฑ๐—ผ๐—ป'๐˜ ๐—ด๐—ฒ๐˜ ๐˜๐—ต๐—ฒ ๐—ณ๐—ฒ๐—ฒ๐—ฑ๐—ฏ๐—ฎ๐—ฐ๐—ธ ๐˜๐—ต๐—ฒ๐˜† ๐—ป๐—ฒ๐—ฒ๐—ฑ
    Almost every person giving feedback upwards will be making some conscious, or unconscious, calculation of career risk. Leaders need to recognise this. For some people this will be a positive (they donโ€™t want that feedback). For others that do, they need to recognise that they still might not get it. You may need to go the (emotional) extra mile to convince people that you really want to hear about what you could do better.

    #๐Ÿฑ ๐—ช๐—ฒ ๐˜€๐—ต๐—ผ๐˜‚๐—น๐—ฑ ๐—ฑ๐—ฒ๐˜€๐—ถ๐—ด๐—ป ๐—ณ๐—ผ๐—ฟ ๐—ต๐˜‚๐—บ๐—ฎ๐—ป๐˜€ ๐˜„๐—ถ๐˜๐—ต ๐—ฎ๐—น๐—น ๐—ผ๐˜‚๐—ฟ ๐—ป๐—ฒ๐—ฒ๐—ฑ๐˜€ ๐—ฎ๐—ป๐—ฑ ๐—ณ๐—น๐—ฎ๐˜„๐˜€
    For many of us, it can be a struggle to give and receive feedback, acknowledge weakness, mistakes, etc.ย  We can try and design cultures such as Radical Transparency and recruit for people who can live with it, or try simpler approaches that reflect individual needs. ย 
    One simple tool is a feedback profile, which can be found here.ย 

    • 16 min
    Seeing the future

    Seeing the future

    In this episode we discuss how we can make better forecasts with Professor Paul Goodwin.

    We tackle everything from the techniques available, to human problems around understanding, bias and incentives. See the chapter headings for full details.


    Notes
    Philip Tetlock's book is Superforecasting: The Art and Science of Prediction

    A paper that describes the key concepts can be found here.ย 

    • 49 min
    Regrette, je regrette beaucoup de choses

    Regrette, je regrette beaucoup de choses

    Does fear of getting things wrong stop you from making decisions?ย 
    If so, youโ€™re not alone. Regret can have a profound impact on our choices.ย 

    In this short episode, we unpack the challenges, discuss some solutions and use the timely case of thematic investment funds as a case in point. We tackle:ย 
    ย 
    The psychological nature of regret โ€“ why it can be useful, but also harmful.
    How regret can impact the best and bright of us โ€“ smarts and market knowledge are no defence.ย 
    How it can hurt our choices from FOMO to delayed decisions โ€“ we discuss the case surrounding thematic funds.ย 
    Some simple tweaks that can reduce the fear of getting things wrong โ€“ the value of processes, monitoring choices and justifiability.
    How we can help other people help us โ€“ self-knowledge and Joe and my challenges in this area, including Joeโ€™s parentsโ€™ day race travailsโ€ฆ
    ย 

    • 22 min

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Brilliant and thought provoking

I love this provocative and โ€œno holds barredโ€ look at corporate culture, decision making, and so much more. Great rapport between the co-hosts and lots of nuggets of wisdoms packed into every episode โ€ฆ I often have to slow down the speed just to take it in!

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