1 hr 4 min
Fiducia Supplicans: An Exercise in "Knavish Imbecility" with Larry Chapp Creedal
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My conversation with Dr. Larry Chapp today discusses the recent teaching edict of the Dicastery for the Doctrine of the Faith: Fiducia Supplicans. The document attempts to clarify the pastoral meaning of blessings, particularly in relation to "irregular unions," but falls short on several fronts. We discuss some of our issues with the document, including theological incoherence, the invention of straw man positions, and the potential for misinterpretation. We also explore the implications of divorcing pastoral practice from truth, and the need for love to be grounded in truth.
Included in the discussion: clericalism, masked homophobia, incrementalism and the law of gradualism, responses from bishops conferences around the world, synodality and non-synodal approaches, comparisons to Humanae Vitae (ha!), the subseuqent press release, the endurance of the Church, support for LGBT Catholics, and much more.
Episode Links:
Fiducia Supplicans
The subsequent press release
The Pillar's rollup of reactions
Eden Invitation
Chapters
00:00 Introduction
00:49 What is Fiducia Supplicans?
02:09 Authority of the Document
05:24 Perceptions and Reactions
08:19 Invention of a Middle Position
10:08 Theological Incoherence
11:34 Blessing Individuals vs. Relationships
13:02 Train Wreck of Pastoral Approach
14:28 Spin and Misinterpretation
15:28 Pastoral Disaster
20:21 Theology of Blessings
21:42 Tenuous Foundations
22:17 Solution in Search of a Problem
23:15 Incoherence and Contradictions
26:04 Masked Homophobia
27:33 Divorcing Pastoral Practice from Truth
31:16 Theological Stupidity
35:43 Ecclesiastical Free-for-All
38:26 Divorcing Love from Truth
40:54 The Church as an Idol
44:04 Incrementalism and the Law of Gradualism
45:00 Responses from Bishops Conferences
46:50 Synodality and Non-Synodal Approaches
50:13 Comparisons to Humanae Vitae
52:46 The Press Release and African Bishops
57:43 Racism and Synodality
58:06 The Church's Endurance and Hillaire Belloc
58:19 Support for LGBT Catholics
01:01:28 Pope Francis and Pastoral Mistakes
01:03:06 Proclaiming the Truth
My conversation with Dr. Larry Chapp today discusses the recent teaching edict of the Dicastery for the Doctrine of the Faith: Fiducia Supplicans. The document attempts to clarify the pastoral meaning of blessings, particularly in relation to "irregular unions," but falls short on several fronts. We discuss some of our issues with the document, including theological incoherence, the invention of straw man positions, and the potential for misinterpretation. We also explore the implications of divorcing pastoral practice from truth, and the need for love to be grounded in truth.
Included in the discussion: clericalism, masked homophobia, incrementalism and the law of gradualism, responses from bishops conferences around the world, synodality and non-synodal approaches, comparisons to Humanae Vitae (ha!), the subseuqent press release, the endurance of the Church, support for LGBT Catholics, and much more.
Episode Links:
Fiducia Supplicans
The subsequent press release
The Pillar's rollup of reactions
Eden Invitation
Chapters
00:00 Introduction
00:49 What is Fiducia Supplicans?
02:09 Authority of the Document
05:24 Perceptions and Reactions
08:19 Invention of a Middle Position
10:08 Theological Incoherence
11:34 Blessing Individuals vs. Relationships
13:02 Train Wreck of Pastoral Approach
14:28 Spin and Misinterpretation
15:28 Pastoral Disaster
20:21 Theology of Blessings
21:42 Tenuous Foundations
22:17 Solution in Search of a Problem
23:15 Incoherence and Contradictions
26:04 Masked Homophobia
27:33 Divorcing Pastoral Practice from Truth
31:16 Theological Stupidity
35:43 Ecclesiastical Free-for-All
38:26 Divorcing Love from Truth
40:54 The Church as an Idol
44:04 Incrementalism and the Law of Gradualism
45:00 Responses from Bishops Conferences
46:50 Synodality and Non-Synodal Approaches
50:13 Comparisons to Humanae Vitae
52:46 The Press Release and African Bishops
57:43 Racism and Synodality
58:06 The Church's Endurance and Hillaire Belloc
58:19 Support for LGBT Catholics
01:01:28 Pope Francis and Pastoral Mistakes
01:03:06 Proclaiming the Truth
1 hr 4 min