For the Good of the Public

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For the Good of the Public

The kind of people we are has much to do with the kind of politics we will have. The Center for Christianity and Public Life's new podcast, hosted by Michael Wear and Phebe Meyer, features hopeful, constructive sessions from our inaugural summit that you won’t hear anywhere else. Every episode, you’ll learn from respected and influential leaders about some of the most pressing issues facing our society today, and consider what Christian resources might have to offer in light of those challenges, for the good of the public. Look for a new episode every Wednesday this Summer!

  1. 18 SEPT

    Building a Culture of Service and Volunteerism

    In this episode of For the Good of the Public podcast, Michael and Phebe share a conversation about service and volunteerism, highlighting leaders that show what Christians are doing to build a culture of service in their own communities. Phebe moderates as the panelists–Bryant Wright, President of Send Relief, Josh Dickson, Vice President of Public Policy at United Way Worldwide, and Sister Norma Pimentel, Executive Director of Catholic Charities of the Rio Grande Valley–discuss their work in helping others by restoring human dignity and building trust. Sister Norma is also one of the first two recipients of the CCPL’s Civil Renewal Award, which honors Christians who show exemplary contributions to the health and well-being of their communities and nation. Jonathan Keller received the award on behalf of his father, the late-Rev. Timothy Keller. The talks from the awards ceremony are not included in the podcast, but are available on the website and Youtube channel. Watch the video recording of this talk on YouTube! “The message of this panel is that this is what Christians are doing in their own communities at very local levels every day. It’s something that each of us can do as we go about our lives, and it’s those kinds of contributions that really make up the fabric of this country and make life livable for so many.” -Michael [02:18] “Each of you have a wealth of experience working with faith groups or individuals who are motivated by faith. What motivates Christians to serve?” -Phebe [07:37] “I think that’s key to what our faith moves us forward to do–to help others–because we’re able to see the need and the struggle, and we want to be able to restore that dignity of the person that is in need of that.” -Sister Norma [11:55] “One thing I would encourage you folks on is don’t give up on the local church, because you’ve got the largest manpower of volunteers in local churches all over the world.” -Bryant [26:03] “It’s important to get offline a little bit and to get into community. I think that too often people are sitting on screens and only on screens, and I think where I have seen the most moving, formative, influential and impactful work happen is person-to-person with people.” -Josh [28:09] TIMESTAMPS [00:00] Intro [03:16] This week’s guests [07:05] Restoring human dignity [17:13] The church is the heartbeat [22:59] Building that trust [24:28] How to build a culture of service [29:11] Current trends and innovations [32:34] Outro REFERENCES For the Good of the Public SummitNew award honors Tim Keller and Sister Norma Pimentel for civic renewalCatholic Charities of the Rio Grande ValleySend ReliefUnited Way WorldwideBeyond the Offering Plate: Views on Volunteering CONNECT WITH US: Website: www.ccpubliclife.org X: a...

    34 min

  2. 11 SEPT

    What A Pluralistic America Needs from Christians

    In this episode of For the Good of the Public podcast, Michael and Phebe present a talk by Eboo Patel, Founder and President of Interfaith America, the leading interfaith organization that works with governments, universities, private companies and civic organizations to make faith a bridge of cooperation, rather than a barrier of division. He draws from Muslim theology to share how to cultivate peace and pluralism by considering viewpoints and resources that are not our own. Following the talk, Michael joins Eboo to learn more about the work of Interfaith America, and to share more about Eboo and Michael’s history of friendship and partnership. Watch the video recording of this talk on YouTube! “I think that Christians, not only need to listen to others, but can benefit from listening to others, and Eboo’s talk is the proof of that.” -Michael [02:09] “Diversity is holy… that’s why it needs us–the practitioners of peace of pluralism–who seek the welfare of the city, but know that we are called to do it by our faith, because that will last.” -Eboo [23:54] TIMESTAMPS [00:00] Intro [03:44] About this week’s guest [04:19] Seek the welfare of the city [08:38] A Muslim theology of pluralism [14:42] The Constitution of Medina [24:35] The fundamental story [30:44] The work of Interfaith America [38:07] Outro REFERENCES Interfaith AmericaFor the Good of the Public SummitHigh Conflict: Why We Get Trapped and How We Get Out by Amanda RipleyThe Way Out: How to Overcome Toxic Polarization by Peter T. ColemanHow to Know a Person: The Art of Seeing Others Deeply and Being Deeply Seen by David Brooks CONNECT WITH US: Website: www.ccpubliclife.org X: @CCPublicLife Facebook: Center for Christianity & Public Life Instagram: @ccpubliclife

    39 min

  3. 4 SEPT

    Christianity and a Healthier Politics

    In this episode of For the Good of the Public podcast, Michael and Phebe present a talk by U.S. Senator Chris Coons about the way his Christian faith informs his public service. Senator Coons highlights the importance of friendship, the power of forgiveness and navigating difference. Following his talk in front of our summit audience, Michael joined Senator Coons for conversation, which you will hear in this episode as well.  Watch the video recording of this talk on YouTube! “He always highlights friendship and he highlights getting to know people beyond their political convictions. Those models are so necessary right now in both our public life, but in our life with our next door neighbors and our parents and our grandparents who we may not agree with.” -Phebe [02:28] “Because at the end of the day, the most true thing I can say about our weekly prayer breakfast is that it is harder to throw a rhetorical punch on the floor of the Senate at someone with whom you’ve held hands in prayer in the morning.” -Senator Coons [11:25] TIMESTAMPS [00:00] Intro [04:25] About this week’s guest [05:09] How do we find our way in this moment [13:00] Reflecting on a trip with the late-John Lewis [16:35] The antidote to the division and distraction of our age [19:36] How we can help [23:17] Outro REFERENCES Senator Chris CoonsFor the Good of the Public Summit CONNECT WITH US: Website: www.ccpubliclife.org X: @CCPublicLife Facebook: Center for Christianity & Public Life Instagram: @ccpubliclife

    24 min

  4. 28 AGO

    Christian Resources and Criminal Justice Reform: A Model

    In this episode of For the Good of the Public podcast, Michael and Phebe present a conversation about criminal justice reform with Heather Rice-Minus, President and CEO of Prison Fellowship, and Ralph Diaz, a former correction officer and Vice-Chairman of Prison Fellowship’s Board of Directors. With 1.7 million people incarcerated in prisons and jails across the country, Heather and Ralph discuss what they are seeking to do with the current criminal justice system and offer a vision for it. They draw from Prison Fellowship as a practical model for how to think about criminal justice reform and why rehabilitative justice is important and essential.  Watch the video recording of this talk on YouTube! “When we think about the concept of justice, we’re thinking that it just doesn't leave people where they are, but it’s actually seeking their betterment.” -Phebe [01:50] “When we’re having public policy conversations, it helps to (consider) ‘What is the purpose we have in mind for this system? What is the goal that we have in mind?’ And that’s why I appreciate this conversation so much. The way that Heather and Ralph are able to talk about what we’re seeking to do with our criminal justice system and offering a vision for it.” -Michael [02:08] “I learned right away, today’s inmates are tomorrow’s neighbor, and sending people out back into a community with no resources, no skills, not dealing with some of the court issues, that was an injustice. Not only for the individual, but the communities that we’re sending them back to.” -Ralph [13:32] “I would encourage folks to make sure you’re following your lawmakers on these issues, talking to them about it. Local, federal, at every level, because we see the justice system does exist at every level.” -Heather [27:45] TIMESTAMPS [00:00] Intro [04:14] About this week’s guests [04:55] A little bit of context [06:08] Ralph’s experience in the justice system [11:21] The need for rehabilitation [17:53] Practical ways to prevent the cycle of crime [24:01] Coming from a place of love [27:56] Resources to get more engaged on this issue [31:12] Outro REFERENCES Heather Rice-Minus, President and CEO of Prison FellowshipRalph Diaz, Vice Chairman of Prison Fellowship board of directorsCalifornia Department of Corrections and RehabilitationFor the Good of the Public SummitChristian Legal Aid of DC CONNECT WITH US: Website: www.ccpubliclife.org X: @CCPublicLife Facebook: Center for Christianity & Public Life Instagram: @ccpubliclife

    32 min

  5. 22 AGO

    A Worker-Friendly Conservatism

    In this episode of For the Good of the Public podcast, Michael and Phebe present a conversation with Chris Griswold, Policy Director at American Compass, a D.C.-based conservative policy think tank. Griswold previously served as the Senior Policy Advisor for U.S. Senator Mario Rubio. In this interview, Chris shares with Michael his vision for a worker-friendly, conservative economic agenda. They discuss how theology can inform public policy, and the prospects for new coalitions to be formed in this polarized political environment. This interview was among the favorites by summit attendees.  Watch the video recording of this talk on YouTube! “I think this is an important conversation to have because there are innovative policy (conversations) that are happening when it comes to protecting workers.” -Phebe [02:03] “I think this conversation shows worker-friendly economics and working class issues are at the very heart of electoral fights and political positioning, and I think it’s important to show that Christian resources can be live, contributing factors there.” -Michael [03:36] “I think we really need to take very seriously the role of collective worker voice and power to dignify. Everyone likes to talk about the dignity of work. It’s a lot more important, I think, to talk about the dignity of workers.” -Chris [11:33] TIMESTAMPS [00:00] Intro [04:57] About this week’s guest [05:24] Chris’ journey to American Compass [08:01] The future of conservative economic policies [13:23] The purpose of political parties [16:36] The UAW Strike [21:09] A challenging moment [25:35] Outro REFERENCES Chris GriswoldAmerican CompassFor the Good of the Public SummitReaganomics: Economic Policy and the Reagan RevolutionElection Results 20222023 United Auto Workers strikeSenator Vance Visits Uaw Picket Line In Toledo, OhioHawley visits UAW Picket Line to Support WorkersSanders, Brown Lead​ Resolution in Solidarity With Striking UAW WorkersFor the Good of the Public: Faith and BelongingNational Labor Relations Board dismisses UAW complaint against Tim ScottNikki Haley unveils economic proposal while slamming both parties...

    27 min

  6. 14 AGO

    A Conversation on Poverty and Child Hunger

    In this episode of the For the Good of the Public podcast, Michael and Phebe present a conversation about child hunger and child poverty and highlights organizations that are doing the essential work on the ground. Jason DeParle, a reporter for The New York Times and author of A Good Provider is One Who Leaves and American Dream, moderates the conversation with Rev. Pamela Irvin, Founder, President and CEO of Feeding Southwest Virginia; Rev. Eugene Cho, President and CEO of Bread for the World; and Anne Filipic, CEO at Share Our Strength. Child poverty fell to a record low in 2021 due to the expansion of government aid during the COVID-19 pandemic, but that rate along with child hunger have now returned to pre-pandemic levels. One in five children in the U.S. are food insecure. These panelists discuss the pathways to addressing and ending child hunger in America. Watch the video recording of this talk on YouTube! “Where does that leave us? I guess an optimist could say that having been through the experience of cutting child poverty in half, we’ve seen the potency and potential of government action. Progressives often say that poverty is a policy choice, not a fate. And if the government could cut it in half, they could do so again. Of course, I’m a journalist, not an optimist. A pessimist might point to the political backlash against that aid and especially the current determination among conservative Republicans who control the House of Representatives to make deep cuts to government spending.” -Jason [07:42] “The way that I think about the work, Yes, I am deeply passionate about making sure that all our children have full bellies, but I think about it more broadly. I think about it as ensuring that all our children have the opportunity to reach their full potential.” -Anne [09:40] “And I’ll tell you the truth. I’ve seen some of the oldest people that I’ve worked with now for 42 years, and I believe it’s the fountain of youth. When you pour yourself out into someone else, it keeps you young. It keeps you spirited, and it gives you a sense of accomplishment in a way that you couldn’t do it any other way.” -Rev. Irvin [18:35] “When people ask me the question, ‘How do you think or why do you think people of faith and Christian should be involved in this work?’ I often and respectfully push back and say, how can we not?” -Rev. Cho [19:40] TIMESTAMPS [00:00] Intro [02:30] This week’s guests [06:04] Context on child poverty [08:27] Disrupting the status quo [14:38] The power of influence [19:19] Theology of flourishing [25:04] Speaking across political divides [31:01] Government aid vs private aid [35:00] Outro REFERENCES Rev. Pamela Irvin, Founder, President and CEO of Feeding Southwest VirginiaRev. Eugene Cho, President and CEO of Bread for the WorldAnne Filipic, CEO at Share Our StrengthJason DeParle, reporter at the New York Timesa...

    36 min

  7. 7 AGO

    Rethinking Sex

    In this episode of For the Good of the Public podcast, Michael and Phebe present a conversation with Christine Emba, staff writer at the Atlantic and author of Rethinking Sex: A Provocation, and Chine McDonald, director of Theos, a research think tank based in London. Christine argues that when it comes to sexual ethics today, “Consent is the floor. It was never meant to be the ceiling.” In this vital conversation, Christine and Chine help us face the reality of our culture today, and discuss what it might look like to build a healthier culture around sexuality and romantic relationships.  Watch the video recording of this talk on YouTube! “It also feels like from your work and your conversation with younger people, that there is almost a realization that consent isn’t enough, that there is a dissatisfaction somewhere in their sexual relationships.” -Chine [10:34] “As a number of people have told me, the vibes are bad. They’re very bad in the romantic culture. And that’s actually true.” -Christine [11:58] TIMESTAMPS [00:00] Intro [02:29] What we highlighted this conversation [04:47] About this week’s guests [06:11] The problem with the focus on consent [10:35] It’s ok to want intimacy [15:44] Men and toxic masculinity [23:12] The role of the Church [28:07] Outro REFERENCES Christine Emba’s articles at The AtlanticRethinking Sex: A Provocation by Christine EmbaChine McDonaldFor the Good of the Public, Episode 9: Faith and BelongingMen are lost. Here’s a map out of the wilderness. By Christine EmbaTheosFor the Good of the Public SummitLet’s rethink sex by Christine EmbaOur Epidemic of Loneliness and Isolation: The U.S. Surgeon General’s Advisory on the  Healing Effects of Social Connection and Community CONNECT WITH US: Website: www.ccpubliclife.org X: @CCPublicLife Facebook: Center for Christianity & Public Life Instagram: @ccpubliclife

    29 min

  8. 31 JUL

    Faith and Belonging

    In this episode of For the Good of the Public podcast, Michael and Phebe present an agenda-setting speech by U.S. Senator Chris Murphy delivered at CCPL’s inaugural summit about the “spiritual crisis” in America in which “millions of Americans feel like they have lost their sense of purpose, their identity, their conception of meaning.” Senator Murphy argues that “if we want to restore the spiritual health of this nation, then we have got to have a more purposeful and more powerful policy of supporting strong healthy religious institutions and a loud, vibrant labor movement.” Watch the video recording of this talk on YouTube! “Civic leaders are asking these questions. There’s an invitation on the table for Christians to engage in a substantive way, and it’s worth considering. What do you have to offer? What do you have to say?” -Michael [03:12] “What I believe is that supporting institutions that help build the common good and help grow social connection, it just has to be at the center, not at the periphery, of our public work.” -Senator Murphy [18:07] TIMESTAMPS [00:00] Intro [03:35] About this week’s guest [04:02] A spiritual crisis [07:06] What makes a good life? [12:18] The need for strong institutions [18:18] Restoring America’s soul [22:05] Outro REFERENCES U.S. Senator Chris MurphyOur Epidemic of Loneliness and Isolation: The U.S. Surgeon General’s Advisory on the  Healing Effects of Social Connection and CommunityMurphy, Casey Introduce Bill to Fight Social Isolation and Loneliness Among Older AmericansNational Strategy for Social Connection ActFor the Good of the Public SummitGross Domestic Product (GDP)Civilian unemployment rateHarvard Study of Adult DevelopmentThe State of American Friendship: Change, Challenges, and Loss: Findings from the May 2021 American Perspectives Survey by Daniel A. CoxUnions increase job satisfaction in the United States by Benjamin Artz, David G. Blanchflower and Alex BrysonShawn Fain, President of United Automobile Workers (UAW)The Spirit of Our Politics by Michael Weara...

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The kind of people we are has much to do with the kind of politics we will have. The Center for Christianity and Public Life's new podcast, hosted by Michael Wear and Phebe Meyer, features hopeful, constructive sessions from our inaugural summit that you won’t hear anywhere else. Every episode, you’ll learn from respected and influential leaders about some of the most pressing issues facing our society today, and consider what Christian resources might have to offer in light of those challenges, for the good of the public. Look for a new episode every Wednesday this Summer!

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