Fork U with Dr. Terry Simpson

Terry Simpson
Fork U with Dr. Terry Simpson

Fork U(niversity) Not everything you put in your mouth is good for you. There’s a lot of medical information thrown around out there. How are you to know what information you can trust, and what’s just plain old quackery? You can’t rely on your own “google fu”. You can’t count on quality medical advice from Facebook. You need a doctor in your corner. On each episode of Your Doctor’s Orders, Dr. Terry Simpson will cut through the clutter and noise that always seems to follow the latest medical news. He has the unique perspective of a surgeon who has spent years doing molecular virology research and as a skeptic with academic credentials. He’ll help you develop the critical thinking skills so you can recognize evidence-based medicine, busting myths along the way. The most common medical myths are often disguised as seemingly harmless “food as medicine”. By offering their own brand of medicine via foods, These hucksters are trying to practice medicine without a license. And though they’ll claim “nutrition is not taught in medical schools”, it turns out that’s a myth too. In fact, there’s an entire medical subspecialty called Culinary Medicine, and Dr. Simpson is certified as a Culinary Medicine Specialist. Where today's nutritional advice is the realm of hucksters, Dr. Simpson is taking it back to the realm of science.

  1. On a GLP-1 -  You Should be on the Mediterranean Diet Also

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    On a GLP-1 - You Should be on the Mediterranean Diet Also

    Weight Loss Surgery and Mediterranean Diet to GLP-1 and the Mediterranean DietFor years, I have guided my weight loss surgery patients toward the Mediterranean diet. Why? Because it’s not only delicious and sustainable, but it’s also backed by decades of science. Now, as GLP-1 medications like Ozempic and Zepbound transform how we approach obesity, the question arises again: what should people eat while on these powerful drugs? The answer, as it turns out, remains the same. GLP-1 medications have undeniably revolutionized weight loss. These drugs, originally developed for diabetes, have rapidly gained fame for helping individuals shed significant amounts of weight. They work by reducing appetite, slowing stomach emptying, and altering hunger signals in the brain. Many patients simply cannot achieve sustained weight loss with diet alone, and for them, GLP-1 drugs are life-changing. However, while these medications help people lose weight, they do not address everything. Weight loss is only part of the equation. Nutrition still matters deeply. Without nourishing your body properly, you risk missing out on crucial benefits such as inflammation reduction, cardiovascular protection, and cognitive preservation. The Mediterranean DietThis is exactly where the Mediterranean diet shines. For decades, in fact, over 70 years, researchers have studied this dietary pattern. More than 13,000 scientific publications support its benefits. It’s not just about eating "like people in the Mediterranean." Rather, it’s about embracing a carefully studied set of foods, in specific amounts, shown to optimize health outcomes. For example, the diet emphasizes: Around 9 ounces (250 grams) of fruits daily.Plenty of vegetables and whole grains.Healthy fats, especially from olive oil.Lean proteins, particularly fish and legumes.Limited red meat and alcohol. Studies Showing the Diet Works For HealthThe science is clear. The PREDIMED study demonstrated significant reductions in cardiovascular events among followers of this diet. The EPIC studies have shown lower overall mortality, reduced cancer risk, and enhanced longevity. Furthermore, other research consistently links the Mediterranean diet to better insulin sensitivity, lower diabetes incidence, and reduced Alzheimer’s risk. So, how does this all connect to GLP-1 medications? Simple. If you are using GLP-1 drugs, you are already taking control of your weight. Why stop there? Combining these medications with a Mediterranean diet maximizes your health benefits. While the drugs help you eat less and lose weight, the diet ensures that what you do eat is packed with nutrition, anti-inflammatory compounds, and essential nutrients. Examples of the Diet in Real LifeIn practical terms, adopting this diet does not have to be complicated. For breakfast, try Greek yogurt topped with fresh berries, or overnight oats with fruit and nuts. For lunch, enjoy a salad filled with leafy greens, chickpeas, avocado, and stone fruits, drizzled with olive oil and lemon. For dinner, think grilled salmon or chicken, paired with quinoa or farro and plenty of colorful vegetables. Ultimately, GLP-1 drugs and the Mediterranean diet are not competing solutions — they are complementary tools. Together, they support not just weight loss, but whole-body health. If you are on a GLP-1 medication, remember this: losing weight is important, but being healthy while losing weight is essential. The Mediterranean diet remains the gold standard, helping you do both. Don't forget your vitaminsIf you are on a GLP-1 medication, please take a daily...

    8 min
  2. Banning Neon Cupcakes While Ignoring Real Public Health Threats: Welcome to America 2025

    APR 30

    Banning Neon Cupcakes While Ignoring Real Public Health Threats: Welcome to America 2025

    Welcome to the theater of absurdity. While the federal government waves the flag of victory over removing petroleum-based food dyes from snacks, it is simultaneously gutting critical public health programs like food inspection, bird flu monitoring, injury prevention initiatives, and scientific research grants. The result? A dazzling case study in misplaced priorities. Today, let's walk through what is actually happening — not the headline-friendly soundbites — and why Americans should be far more worried about E. coli in their milk than Red Dye #3 in their Skittles. The Food Dye Fear Mongering: What's Actually True? First, let's address the food dye hysteria head-on. Many news outlets, "wellness influencers," and natural health bloggers are breathlessly claiming that we are "eating petroleum" because some food dyes are synthesized from hydrocarbon molecules derived initially from crude oil. Here’s the scientific truth: petroleum-derived hydrocarbons are nothing more than basic building blocks of carbon and hydrogen — the same stuff that makes up olive oil, avocado oil, and the omega-3 fatty acids you proudly add to your smoothies. [1] Importantly, food dyes like Red 40 and Yellow 5 are purified and rigorously tested substances. They are chemically synthesized from hydrocarbons, not "extracted gasoline." Saying Red 40 is gasoline is like saying salt is explosive because it contains sodium. It's chemophobic nonsense. Meanwhile, many of the same people yelling about food dyes are promoting supplements like methylene blue — another petroleum-derived chemical. Cognitive dissonance, much? Reference: ImmunoLogic. (2025). "No, You're Not Eating Gasoline." Retrieved from https://news.immunologic.org Meanwhile, in the Real World: Food Safety Programs Are Being Gutted Now, while we're distracted by the horror of neon cupcakes, something far more dangerous is happening. Funding for critical public health initiatives is being slashed: Food inspection programs are being downgraded and shifted from federal oversight to inconsistent state programs.Bird flu monitoring — crucial in an era of rising zoonotic diseases — is being slashed.Injury prevention programs — those that track traumatic brain injury, car crashes, drownings, and falls — are being dismantled. According to reporting from Food Safety News, the Trump Administration's proposed budget would cut $128 million from the FDA’s food safety programs alone — programs that help prevent outbreaks of foodborne illness like the 2018 E. coli outbreak tied to romaine lettuce. [2] Reference: 2. Food Safety News. (2025). "FDA food safety funding faces big cuts." Retrieved from https://www.foodsafetynews.com Leadership Matters: Enter RFK Jr. You might ask, "Who’s steering this ship into the iceberg?" None other than Robert F. Kennedy Jr., head of Health and Human Services. There’s a small problem: RFK Jr. never took a single science course during his undergraduate education — at least, none we can find. Yet he is now in charge of overseeing agencies that depend on scientific literacy, from the CDC to the FDA. No wonder policy is being dictated by what makes Instagram wellness bloggers like "Food Babe" happy. Forget investing in scientific infrastructure to actually prevent disease. Apparently, public health is now about making sure your lettuce won't "run away with your colon." And the Hypocrisy Continues: Milk and...

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  3. Mission FORK U

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    Mission FORK U

    Welcome to FORK U. Fork University. Where we make sense of the madness, bust a few myths, and teach you a little about food and medicine. I’m Dr. Terry Simpson—surgeon, scientist, and your chief medical explanationist. At FORK U, we’re not here to sell you supplements or tell you carbs are evil. We’re here to bring the science back to your plate—with a healthy side of sarcasm. Food hasn’t been medicine for 2,000 years, and despite what the smoothie bowl crowd says, it still isn’t. But we do know that eating better can help you live better. And that matters. Our MissionHere’s what we do: ✅ We bust nutrition myths that clog your feed and your arteries ✅ We decode the latest studies in easy, bite-sized episodes ✅ We bring the receipts—every episode is evidence-based and referenced at ForkU.com HistoryWe’ve revisited the foundational studies of nutrition, like Ancel Keys’ Seven Countries Study—which didn’t just compare nations but followed real people in real villages for decades. We’ve explored the French Paradox. We’ve even told the story of the surgeon who discovered the first vitamin. And we don’t just look back—we dive into current topics too: GLP-1s, gut health, ultra-processed foods, and yes—what happens when a shirtless influencer tries to sell you dehydrated buffalo hearts in the name of ancestral living. (Spoiler: you’re better off with lentils.) If you’re tired of pseudoscience disguised as wellness, and you want real answers—served with wit, citations, and no BS—welcome to FORK U. Let’s eat smarter. Let’s myth-bust louder. And let’s get cooking.

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  4. Butter, LDL, and the Myth of Plaque

    APR 15

    Butter, LDL, and the Myth of Plaque

    Butter, LDL, and the Myth of Harmless PlaqueWhy High Cholesterol Isn’t Just a Number—and What the Latest Science Says About Oils, Fats, and Your Risk of Death By Dr. Terry Simpson, MD – The Culinary Medicine Doc We’ve all heard the story: butter’s back, LDL doesn’t matter, and as long as you’re low-carb, your heart is safe. But what if I told you that the science—real, peer-reviewed science—tells a different story? In this post, I’ll walk you through three powerful studies that dismantle the myth of “harmless” LDL and show why swapping butter for plant-based oils could literally save your life. 1. LDL and ApoB: The True Origins of Arterial PlaqueAtherosclerosis—the buildup of plaque inside arteries—often starts silently. But over time, it becomes the leading cause of heart attacks, strokes, and cardiovascular disease. A key study from the Journal of the American College of Cardiology found that the primary trigger for plaque formation is not “existing plaque” as some influencers claim—but rather, LDL cholesterol and ApoB-containing lipoproteins that penetrate the arterial wall and kick off the inflammatory cascade that builds plaque [1]. Once inside, these particles don’t just hang out—they lead to plaque progression and destabilization, which is what causes heart attacks. No LDL, no plaque. It’s that simple. 2. High LDL, Worse Plaque—Even on KetoA 2025 study published in JACC: Advances examined people on carbohydrate-restricted diets—many of whom had very high LDL cholesterol levels [2]. While some hoped the data would vindicate high LDL in the context of keto, that’s not what happened. The study found that the higher the LDL, the worse the atherosclerotic plaque—regardless of dietary pattern. Bottom line: High LDL is still atherogenic, even if you’re “metabolically healthy.” That six-pack doesn’t protect your arteries. 3. Butter Increases Mortality. Plant-Based Oils Reduce It.Let’s talk fats. Specifically: butter. In a major pooled analysis of three large U.S. cohorts—the Nurses’ Health Studies I & II and the Health Professionals Follow-up Study—researchers found that butter consumption was associated with increased total, cancer, and cardiovascular mortality [3]. But here’s the good news: Replacing butter with plant-based oils—like olive, soybean, and canola oil—reduced the risk of death. The substitution analysis showed that replacing just 15 grams of butter (about 3 small pats) with 15 grams of plant-based oil (about 1 tablespoon) led to statistically significant reductions in mortality risk. These plant oils are rich in polyunsaturated and monounsaturated fats, which have been shown in trials to: Lower LDL cholesterol [4]Reduce inflammation [5]Improve lipid profiles [6]Decrease overall mortality [7] 4. Butter, Cancer, and InflammationIt gets worse for butter. The same study found a strong association between butter intake and cancer mortality, especially hormone-sensitive cancers like breast and prostate [3]. Why? Saturated fat—found in high levels in butter—can increase inflammation in fat tissue and alter hormone activity, both of which are risk factors for these cancers [8,9]. And no, this wasn’t confounded by white bread or pastries—the researchers adjusted for those too. 5. Are All Plant-Based Oils the Same? Not Exactly.Olive oil, canola oil, and soybean oil showed consistent protective effects. Corn and safflower oil? The...

    8 min
  5. Blue Zones: Beautiful Myth or Measured Truth?

    APR 10

    Blue Zones: Beautiful Myth or Measured Truth?

    The idea of Blue Zones—those rare places where people supposedly live longer, healthier lives—has become nutritional gospel. From best-selling books to Netflix specials, Blue Zones have been painted as longevity utopias we can mimic if we just eat more beans and nap more often. But here’s the thing: Blue Zones aren’t science—they’re storytelling. In this post, we take an unfiltered look at the Blue Zones concept, explore recent controversies, and compare it with something backed by actual peer-reviewed data: the Mediterranean Diet. What Are Blue Zones?Coined by journalist Dan Buettner and popularized through National Geographic, Blue Zones refer to five regions with high numbers of centenarians: Okinawa, JapanSardinia, ItalyNicoya, Costa RicaIkaria, GreeceLoma Linda, California These regions reportedly share key habits: plant-forward diets, natural movement, strong social bonds, and low stress. While these are certainly positive lifestyle features, the problem is how this information was collected. The Blue Zones model is observational, not scientific. It’s a patchwork of ethnographic notes, anecdotes, and assumptions—not randomized trials or controlled cohort studies. The Blue Zones ControversyIn recent years, the Blue Zones concept has come under scrutiny: Okinawa’s longevity claims have declined in newer data; life expectancy has dropped, and obesity and chronic diseases are on the rise.Record inaccuracies in places like Okinawa and Ikaria have been found, making claims of centenarian density questionable.Survivorship bias skews the picture—we hear from those who lived long, not those who didn’t.Westernization has eroded the very habits that supposedly defined these zones. In short: Blue Zones are more about a moment in time than a repeatable formula. So What Does the Data Say?If you're looking for longevity strategies backed by evidence—not just folklore—consider the major cohort studies: Nurses’ Health StudyAdventist Health StudyEPIC-Oxford These studies have followed hundreds of thousands of people for decades. The data consistently shows that people who live longer: Eat more whole, plant-based foodsLimit ultra-processed foods and added sugarsExercise regularlyMaintain strong social connectionsGet adequate sleepManage stressDon’t overeat No magic. Just measurable habits. Mediterranean Diet: The Gold StandardUnlike Blue Zones, the Mediterranean Diet is a defined, evidence-based dietary pattern. And it’s been rigorously studied in over 13,000 peer-reviewed publications. Core Features:High intake of fruits, vegetables, legumes, whole grainsOlive oil as the main fatModerate fish and poultryMinimal red meat and sugarModerate wine, usually with mealsEmphasis on community and shared meals Evidence Highlights:PREDIMED Trial (2013): A randomized controlled trial of over 7,000 participants in Spain found that the Mediterranean Diet reduced the risk of cardiovascular events by 30% compared to a low-fat diet.Reference: Estruch R, et al. N Engl J Med. 2013;368(14):1279-1290.LinkSpanish Cohort Study (2022): A population-based study of 1.5 million adults found that greater adherence to the...

    9 min
  6. Common Carnivore/Low-Carb Myths

    APR 3

    Common Carnivore/Low-Carb Myths

    Dietary Myths vs. Nutritional Science: Why the Mediterranean Diet Reigns SupremeAs an Athabascan physician and culinary medicine expert, I'm often amused by the dietary myths perpetuated online, particularly those championed by keto and carnivore diet enthusiasts. Today, let's debunk some of these myths—Inuit diets, Hong Kong longevity, Maasai heart health, and the so-called French paradox—and explain why decades of robust nutritional science firmly support the Mediterranean diet. Myth 1: The Inuit DietLow-carb proponents love pointing to the traditional Inuit diet as evidence of the supposed superiority of carnivorous diets. Yes, Inuit diets are traditionally high in marine mammals like whales, seals, and fish, providing ample vitamin C from sources such as muktuk (whale skin and blubber) and seal liver. Yet, archaeological evidence clearly shows ancient Inuit mummies suffered from vascular disease, challenging the claim that their diet was protective (Fodor et al., 2014). Additionally, Inuit diets historically incorporated plant-based foods such as berries, seaweed, and tubers during summer months—a fact conveniently overlooked by keto advocates. Myth 2: The Hong Kong Longevity ClaimAnother popular keto narrative incorrectly attributes Hong Kong's impressive longevity statistics to high meat consumption. But research shows elderly individuals in Hong Kong typically eat less meat and adhere closely to diets resembling the Mediterranean style, rich in vegetables, seafood, and whole grains (Woo et al., 2001). Again, context is key—and frequently missing from keto claims. Myth 3: Maasai Immunity to Heart DiseaseThe Maasai, often cited as proof that diets rich in saturated fats don't cause heart disease, actually demonstrate the opposite. Recent studies confirm significant atherosclerosis and cardiovascular issues among Maasai populations, underscoring that even "warrior" genetics don't provide immunity from saturated fat-related diseases (Mann et al., 1972). Myth 4: The French ParadoxAh, the French Paradox—the idea that French populations consume diets high in saturated fats yet experience low heart disease rates. The reality is simpler: the French eat plenty of vegetables, fruits, olive oil, seafood, and emphasize portion control and mindful eating. France was initially included in the famous Seven Countries Study but was ultimately excluded due to funding constraints—not dietary irregularities (Kromhout et al., 2017). It's sensible eating, not paradoxical magic. Solid Science: The Mediterranean DietContrary to these dietary myths, extensive nutritional science consistently supports the Mediterranean diet. Two landmark studies illustrate this clearly: Seven Countries Study: Spanning 50 years and involving over 14,000 men, this research demonstrated clearly superior cardiovascular outcomes for individuals following Mediterranean-style diets rich in vegetables, fruits, whole grains, legumes, fish, and olive oil compared to higher-fat diets (Keys et al., 1986).EPIC Study: Following over half a million Europeans, the European Prospective Investigation into Cancer and Nutrition showed that diets emphasizing plant foods and limiting red and processed meats significantly reduce cancer risks (a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/21098682/" rel="noopener noreferrer"...

    8 min
  7. Why Bitterness is Good for You

    MAR 7

    Why Bitterness is Good for You

    The Bitter Truth: Why Bitterness Matters More Than You ThinkHave you ever taken a sip of black coffee and immediately regretted it? Or maybe you’ve bitten into a grapefruit and felt like your tongue was under attack? If so, you’re not alone. Bitterness is one of the most misunderstood flavors, but it plays a huge role in our health and survival. From keeping us from eating toxic foods to helping digestion, bitterness has a bigger impact on our bodies than most people realize. So, let’s dive into the bitter truth—why some people hate it, why your stomach can actually taste it, and how it has been used as medicine for centuries. Why Do Some Foods Taste Bitter?To begin with, bitterness exists for a reason. In nature, many poisonous plants contain bitter compounds. Long ago, humans who could detect bitterness had a survival advantage. In other words, their ability to taste bitterness kept them from eating something deadly. As a result, our bodies evolved to be extra sensitive to bitter flavors. However, not all bitter foods are dangerous. Many are incredibly healthy. Take kale, dark chocolate, and turmeric, for example. These foods may taste strong or even unpleasant to some people, but they are packed with antioxidants and nutrients that support overall health. So, why do some people love bitter foods while others can’t stand them? The answer lies in our genes. Scientists have discovered that a gene called TAS2R38 determines how sensitive we are to bitterness. If you are a super-taster, bitter foods might seem unbearably strong. On the other hand, if you are a non-taster, you may barely notice the bitterness at all. Your Stomach Can "Taste" Bitterness TooInterestingly, your tongue isn’t the only part of your body that detects bitterness. Your stomach can taste it as well. But how does that work? Well, your stomach has bitter taste receptors that serve a very important function. First, these receptors help control digestion. When bitter foods enter your stomach, the receptors slow down gastric emptying. In simpler terms, they make food stay in your stomach longer. As a result, you feel full for a longer period. This is one reason why bitter greens like arugula or dandelion leaves can help with weight management. Second, these bitter receptors act as bodyguards for your digestive system. If your stomach detects a bitter substance that shouldn’t be there—like a potential toxin—it delays digestion to prevent harmful substances from moving too quickly into your intestines. This process gives your body extra time to neutralize any potential threats. Bitters: From Medicine to CocktailsBecause of their digestive benefits, bitter herbs have been used in medicine for centuries. In the past, people took bitters—herbal mixtures containing bitter plant extracts—to help with digestion, bloating, and nausea. Some of the most common bitter herbs include: Gentian root – A powerful bitter used to stimulate digestion.Dandelion – Helps with liver function and gut health.Wormwood – Historically used for digestive problems and gut health.Burdock – Supports digestion and has anti-inflammatory properties. Over time, bitters made their way from medicine cabinets to cocktail bars. During the 1800s, bitters became a key ingredient in alcoholic drinks, including the Old Fashioned and the Manhattan. In fact, some of today’s most famous bitters, like Angostura and Peychaud’s, were originally marketed as health...

    11 min
  8. The Egg: From Villain to Victory

    MAR 4

    The Egg: From Villain to Victory

    The Great Egg Redemption: How Science Saved Breakfast (But Not Your Wallet)For decades, the humble egg was treated like a ticking time bomb for your arteries. Nutrition guidelines told us to avoid them, doctors warned us about cholesterol, and many Americans swapped their morning omelet for a sad bowl of processed cereal. But here’s the kicker—those recommendations weren’t based on strong science. Instead, industry interests heavily influenced them, outdated theories, and a lot of fear-mongering. Now, eggs are back on the menu. Science has finally caught up, and experts agree that dietary cholesterol isn’t the villain it was made out to be. But just when we thought we could enjoy eggs guilt-free, bird flu struck, prices skyrocketed, and suddenly, eggs became the new luxury item. So, how did we get here? Let’s crack open the truth. The Food Pyramid: A Big Business, Not Big ScienceIf you grew up in the 90s, you probably remember the Food Pyramid. It told us to eat 6-11 servings of bread, pasta, and cereal every day, while foods like eggs, meat, and fats were placed at the top—basically labeled "Eat Sparingly." But was this pyramid built on solid science? Not exactly. The grain industry played a huge role in shaping these guidelines. In the 1970s and 80s, low-fat diets became the gold standard for heart health. The idea was simple: eating fat leads to heart disease, so cutting out fat would make us healthier. Unfortunately, that’s not what happened. Instead, food companies removed fat from products and replaced it with sugar and processed carbs—because, let’s face it, fat-free food tastes terrible without something to make it palatable. As a result, Americans ended up eating way more refined carbs and sugar, leading to a spike in obesity and type 2 diabetes (Ludwig et al., 2018). Meanwhile, eggs—one of nature’s most nutrient-dense and affordable foods—were put on the naughty list. The War on Eggs: How a Bad Idea Became Dietary DogmaThe real egg panic began in 1968 when the American Heart Association (AHA) declared that dietary cholesterol was a major cause of heart disease. They recommended eating no more than three eggs per week (Kritchevsky, 1999). But here’s the problem—this recommendation wasn’t based on strong human studies. Instead, it was based on: Animal Studies – Scientists fed cholesterol to rabbits, which are naturally herbivores, and (shocker!) their cholesterol went up. But rabbits process cholesterol differently than humans (McNamara, 2000).Epidemiological Correlations – Early studies linked high cholesterol intake to heart disease, but they didn’t separate it from other factors like saturated fat, smoking, or lack of exercise (Hu et al., 1999).Clinical Studies With Unrealistic Diets – Some studies tested cholesterol intake using six eggs per day—which is way more than most people eat (Fernandez, 2006). Meanwhile, many scientists already knew that dietary cholesterol had minimal impact on blood cholesterol for most people. Our bodies naturally regulate cholesterol production—when we eat more cholesterol, the liver produces less to balance it out (Griffin & Lichtenstein, 2013). But by the time the science caught up, the damage was done. Food companies had already flooded the market with...

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Fork U(niversity) Not everything you put in your mouth is good for you. There’s a lot of medical information thrown around out there. How are you to know what information you can trust, and what’s just plain old quackery? You can’t rely on your own “google fu”. You can’t count on quality medical advice from Facebook. You need a doctor in your corner. On each episode of Your Doctor’s Orders, Dr. Terry Simpson will cut through the clutter and noise that always seems to follow the latest medical news. He has the unique perspective of a surgeon who has spent years doing molecular virology research and as a skeptic with academic credentials. He’ll help you develop the critical thinking skills so you can recognize evidence-based medicine, busting myths along the way. The most common medical myths are often disguised as seemingly harmless “food as medicine”. By offering their own brand of medicine via foods, These hucksters are trying to practice medicine without a license. And though they’ll claim “nutrition is not taught in medical schools”, it turns out that’s a myth too. In fact, there’s an entire medical subspecialty called Culinary Medicine, and Dr. Simpson is certified as a Culinary Medicine Specialist. Where today's nutritional advice is the realm of hucksters, Dr. Simpson is taking it back to the realm of science.

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