Leaders in Talent Podcast with Adriaan Kolff

From Leading Teams to Leading AI Agents: The CPO Playbook for the AI Era

What does AI actually change inside the people function?

In this episode of The Leaders in Talent Podcast, Adriaan Kolff sits down with Shlomit Gruman-Navot, a four-time Chief People Officer and transformation executive with 25 years of experience across tech, SaaS, consumer platforms, and banking.

Shlomit shares what changed when she went deep into AI, why this is not just a technology shift but a human transformation, and how leaders should rethink work, judgment, operating models, and AI fluency across the organization.

Timestamps

01:23 Guest introduction: who is Shlomit Gruman-Navot

02:49 Why Shlomit went deep into AI

03:36 From leading teams to leading AI agents

06:22 How her AI journey actually started

10:11 Where AI is already making an impact in HR

12:18 How to redesign work and drive change inside organizations

15:45 Why HR is uniquely positioned to lead AI transformation

18:26 Advice for CHROs and HR leaders who are too busy to experiment

21:39 Agents vs agentic AI explained simply

24:45 Will AI eliminate junior HR and analyst roles?

29:07 How talent leaders should deal with AI overwhelm

30:48 Shlomit’s new community around making AI work at work

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