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A podcast about overcoming perfectionism so you can do more of what you love. Your hosts are: Janine Adams, a Certified Professional Organizer, who is naturally good at good enough and Shannon Wilkinson, a Life Coach and recovering perfectionist who is learning to be better at good enough. Together they share tips, techniques and stories from their organizing and coaching practices, as well as their own lives, to help you find more peace, have less angst and take more action.

Getting to Good Enough Getting to Good Enough

    • Health & Fitness
    • 4.6 • 39 Ratings

A podcast about overcoming perfectionism so you can do more of what you love. Your hosts are: Janine Adams, a Certified Professional Organizer, who is naturally good at good enough and Shannon Wilkinson, a Life Coach and recovering perfectionist who is learning to be better at good enough. Together they share tips, techniques and stories from their organizing and coaching practices, as well as their own lives, to help you find more peace, have less angst and take more action.

    Episode 154: Stepping Out of Your Comfort Zone

    Episode 154: Stepping Out of Your Comfort Zone

    It can be hard to step out of your comfort zone, and sometimes perfectionism keeps us squarely in it. In this episode, Janine and Shannon discuss a project that has Janine stepping way out of her comfort zone and how she's trying hard to not let perfectionism get in the way.

    Discussion topics include:

    • How Janine is stepping out of her comfort zone with the publication and marketing of her new Orderly Roots genealogy guide
    • Shannon's attempts to help Janine reframe her thinking about sales
    • How perfectionism fits into Janine's discomfort
    • The difficulty in calling a writing project finished
    • The physiological effect of the stress of going out of your comfort zone
    • Figuring out what tasks merit spending more time
    • Shannon's introduction of a stressor Janine hadn't even thought of. (Thanks, Shannon.)
    • The podcast's upcoming third anniversary
    Janine's enjoyment of being new in a field and her transition into acknowledging herself as an expert
    • Shannon's insight that Janine's enjoyment of being new means she likes getting out of her comfort zone
    • The joy of having a challenge that you don't know you can achieve, something Shannon and Janine both love
    • How perfectionism can get in the way of rising to certain challenges
    • How Shannon went from being an adamant non-runner to finishing the Boston Marathon four years later
    • Shannon's husband Mike's rising to the challenge of knitting socks

    See the show notes at www.gettingtogoodenough.com for links to Janine's new sales pages.

    • 24 min
    Episode 153: Helping Your Future Self

    Episode 153: Helping Your Future Self

    Thinking about future you can help your present self get unstuck. In this episode Shannon and Janine discuss some strategies for letting go of perfectionism and taking action in ways that your future self will thank you for.

    Discussion topics include:

    • How decisions can become easier when we think about our future selves
    • Embracing good enough now so your future self will thank you
    • How Shannon let go of efficiency in favor of considering her future self by immediately processing any documents related to her mother's estate
    • Janine's new YNAB-fueled bookkeeping routines that helped her future self at tax time
    • Janine's filthy keyboard and how her future self would appreciate her cleaning it
    • Our advice: Think about future you when you're paralyzed by perfectionism
    • Scheduling a vacation to benefit your future self
    • Booking services now, rather than waiting until the perfect time
    • How thinking of your future self can shift your perspective enough to allow you take action
    • Considering your elderly future self
    • Helping your future self by making and freezing meals
    • Helping your morning self by deciding in advance what to do first thing in the morning
    • Janine's hand-lettered task list

    Visit the show notes at www.gettingtogoodenough.com for pictures and links!

    • 22 min
    Episode 152: Practicing Being Present

    Episode 152: Practicing Being Present

    It's so easy to live in the past and the future without really being in the present. This week, Janine and Shannon discuss how to practice being present. Shannon shares tips and techniques for practicing mindfulness, while Janine (who has been wanting to cultivate mindfulness) soaks it all in.

    Discussion topics include:

    • An update on Shannon's car-buying journey (Spoiler Alert: they bought a car!)
    • Janine's need to be more mindful
    • Remembering to be present
    • Shifting your attention toward being mindful by focusing on your breath or doing a body scan
    • Practicing being present now, not in the future
    • Inviting your unconscious mind to scan the sidewalk and be aware of what is coming up to avoid tripping during walks or runs
    • Reminding yourself what you want to pay attention to (not what you DON'T want to pay attention to)
    • Another mindfulness technique: matching your breathing with your steps when taking a walk
    • Integrating mindfulness into things that are happening naturally
    • Turning chores into an opportunity to practice mindfulness
    • How practicing mindfulness isn't an all-or-nothing proposition
    • Avoiding perfectionism in practicing being present
    • Remembering that this takes continual practice
    • The practice: check in with yourself, pay attention to your breath, be in your body and choose what you do next

    Visit the show notes at www.gettingtogoodenough.com for an update from Janine on how she's practiced mindfulness since recording this episode.

    • 23 min
    Episode 151: Task Management Revisited

    Episode 151: Task Management Revisited

    Shannon and Janine love talking about task management. In the past we have both used Todoist, then we both used Trello. Now Shannon's back to Todoist for her task management while Janine remains fervently loyal to Trello. In this episode, we talk about how success with task management isn't about the system you use, but more about knowing what you need.

    Discussion topics include:

    • Our love for our task management systems
    • Shannon's on-again-off-again-back-on-again relationship with Todoist for task management
    • Todoist's gamification (streaks and Karma Points!)
    • How task management systems fail when you stop paying attention to them
    • How there's no such thing as a perfect task management system
    • Shannon's description of her Todoist projects
    • Todoist's new board view
    • Shannon's Could, Should, Want, and Will lists
    • Shannon's daily spotlight routine (focusing on a different project each day)
    • The key to success: Figuring out what you need and what isn't working for you in your current system
    • Recognizing that what we need in a task management system can change
    • Shannon's "quick wins" tasks
    • The only thing missing from Todoist in Shannon's view: confetti!
    • How we all deserve confetti
    • A side discussion on trophies
    • Finding a "good enough" task management system

    Visit the show notes at www.gettingtogoodenough.com for screen shots and links!

    • 24 min
    Episode 150: Creating Helpful Work Boundaries

    Episode 150: Creating Helpful Work Boundaries

    In this, our 150th episode (!), Janine and Shannon discuss how easy it is to blur the boundaries between work and home life, particularly when working from home. We talk about strategies to help create helpful work boundaries to make our work and home lives more distinct (and more enjoyable).

    Discussion topics include:

    • Our 150th episode!
    • Janine's lament over the fact that she seems to be always working
    • Shannon's working beach trip that could have been improved with better boundaries
    • What she wished she'd done: Get clear up front--and have a clear list--about what work felt important to do while she was at the beach
    • The value of time blocking for boundaries
    • Janine's simplified version of her daily task management that she uses when traveling to be clear on what work she needs to do
    • The blurred lines between work and personal life when working from home
    • The difficulty in turning off work when technology makes it accessible 24/7
    • Creating rituals to end the work day (and make starting the next day easier)
    • How putting a stop to the work day can actually make you a more effective worker
    • The challenge of having natural working rhythms that don't coincide with the family's
    • Creating mental and physical boundaries that separate work and personal time

    • 23 min
    Episode 149: Making Thoughtful Choices

    Episode 149: Making Thoughtful Choices

    It can be challenging to make thoughtful choices--whether they're large or small decisions. In this episode, Shannon shares a process that she uses to make decisions and how it helped she and her husband decide whether or not to buy a new car. (Spoiler alert: They decided not to!) This simple process can be helpful in all sorts of situations.

    Discussion topics include:

    • The two important questions that are basis of this process: (1) What problem are you trying to solve as you make a choice? and (2) What are you hoping to gain?
    • How Shannon and her husband disagreed about whether or not to buy a car because they were coming at it with different goals
    • How once they figured out what they were trying to achieve, the question became much more clear
    • The adorable car that Mike decided to wait for: The 2024 electric Volkswagen Microbus
    • Pressing pause on spending until you can make a thoughtful decision
    • How this process can apply to any decision, not just financial ones
    • Separating complicated decisions into smaller components
    • Applying the process to decluttering projects, like Shannon's bar/cookbook nook that she just decluttered
    • Another application of this process: deciding whether to take a course

    Visit the show notes at www.gettingtogoodenough.com for links!

    • 23 min

Customer Reviews

4.6 out of 5
39 Ratings

39 Ratings

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Good Enough to Get Unstuck

This has been such a delightful and helpful podcast that I tell all my friends of “my take aways” and encourage them to listen in so they can find their own take aways. Listening in has been a process of removing self-doubt and layers of misconceptions that have helped me to my “Ahh-ha” moments. I find myself saying: “If Duffy can do it, so can I”! Thank you for the thoughtful and honest discussions that help us get unstuck on what we know, but even better the process of discovering the things we never thought we were stuck in. Yay team! Thank you. Rob G

WeAreNotAmusedEither ,

On Epi 3, will review again later

This seems to be a brand new audio effort for both hosts. I’ve listened to interviews of Janine (on other podcasts) and they were great.

I fast-forwarded through parts of Epi 2 because of hella loud lawn equipment. Seriously loud/distracting/unpleasant. Epi 3 better and I expect they will learn to turn off cell phones and avoid unrelated asides as time progresses. Will stick with it for a while...

Kathleen G. S. ,

Delightful and Inspiring

This delightful and inspiring podcast is much like a sit down with your wisest and friends. Thanks for the honesty!

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