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The GREEN Organic Garden Podcast will inspire, teach, and promote earth friendly techniques by interviewing organic gardeners who share their journeys, tips, and tricks to simplify the process of growing your own delicious healthy food. Whether you want to have a small bed in your backyard or a full grown farming operation, our guests will help you reach your gardening goals and offer you resources and solutions to everyday gardening challenges, and inspiration to dig down in the dirt and get growing!

GREEN Organic Garden Podcast Jackie Marie Beyer

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The GREEN Organic Garden Podcast will inspire, teach, and promote earth friendly techniques by interviewing organic gardeners who share their journeys, tips, and tricks to simplify the process of growing your own delicious healthy food. Whether you want to have a small bed in your backyard or a full grown farming operation, our guests will help you reach your gardening goals and offer you resources and solutions to everyday gardening challenges, and inspiration to dig down in the dirt and get growing!

    325. I want this garden to work for me and not me work for it |Patti Armbrister | WiseGrowerGuru.com

    325. I want this garden to work for me and not me work for it |Patti Armbrister | WiseGrowerGuru.com



    Hey there, green future growers! Thanks for joining us today. If you're new to the show, I hope you'll subscribe on (https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/green-organic-garden-podcast/id962887645) or your favorite Android app and let's get growing.




    The amazing (https://mailchi.mp/a8d9d66af778/compost-not-just-good-but-great-and-more-too) you'll ever take completely online.



    Saturday, July 18th, 2020, (https://mailchi.mp/a8d9d66af778/compost-not-just-good-but-great-and-more-too) . You will get a copy of the replay. You will get to pick her brain question in the answers. We're just gonna rock the composting, how to do composting the most efficient, effective, and best way to improve the results in your garden today. Yeah, there we go.


    All right. Welcome to the GREEN Organic Garden Podcast. It is Friday, June 26, 2020, and (http://wisegrowerguru.com/) talked me into doing a video live. So here we are doing video, but she's going to do some screen share and I'm going to turn it over to her so she can tell us all her amazing golden seeds. So welcome to the show. Patti, welcome back to the show Patti.



    Well, yes, thank you, Jackie. I just see later that we are going to get to have a conversation to share and listeners posted about coming to visit.


    I haven't posted the advice you gave me, but I talked about, well, maybe I recorded it.It was one we met with Robin in Whitefish. Actually I recorded it on the way home. So I haven't done an episode about you coming to visit. So I guess listeners you'll hear that soon, but in the meantime, what are we going to talk about today?



    Yeah, they'll be good. Oh, we're going to talk about all kinds of stuff for one thing. It's here in Eastern Montana. It is like the most phenomenal growing season you've ever seen or I've ever seen. And I've been here since 1990 to give you an idea that then every single season has been different, right? But this year, this spring is just unbelievable. The plants can't ask for anything more than what they've received this year.



    So they're just looking amazing and producing!


    So, yeah, I'm pretty excited that I've been able to eat kale out of my garden for the month!Previous to that, I was eating out of the passive solar greenhouse as a school.


    My goal is to eat kale year round, growing in Montana. 

    So that's what I want to be doing. So I'm getting closer and closer to it. I would just keep trying to tweak it, figure it out. When do I need to plan it? Where does it need to be in the wintertime and how to get it done? But we're getting really close.


    I had a plant at the school garden in the passive solar green house this year and that plant, I was harvesting it in March,


    I was wondering if you were eating it? When did you plant it?


    The little kids and I planted it in September, right in September.



    And so we I planted a seedling and then they transplanted it into these containers, which we tried five different varieties when we did that. And we only had the one variety, make it all the way through and be where that I could harvest it. I do have another variety, which is the red Russian that is, I'm still producing right now, but I wasn't able to harvest it for the three or four months that I was harbored minus this curly kale, that type.



    So there's more of a cold Hardy kale. So the ones with the real crinkly leaves not to dinosaur kale, but the real crinkly leaves are in, you know, and they're, they're kind of the curve celled plants. So they, they, they...

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    White Homework Podcast | Why you must listen | real #WhiteFragility explained | JMB Social Justice Rant

    White Homework Podcast | Why you must listen | real #WhiteFragility explained | JMB Social Justice Rant


    I am totally loving Tori Williams Douglas' podcast Not Your Average Runner Podcast (https://notyouraveragerunner.com/) .

    Anyway in one episode I listened to Tori says imagine what life would look like if we were going to restore justice. Would we give North America back to the Native Americans? Would we quit leaving our homes to our children? Almost all white people plan to inherit their home from their parents. Where would we go? If we didn't give our home to our children. What would it look like?

    So after thinking about it for a short while, I thought most of all, we need to start by rethinking our incarceration system. We need to turn that upside down. IDK where I read it but someone said once we could put every prisoner through a Harvard education for the cost of keeping them in jail. IDK if that's true but it sure seems like if we took the money to incarcerate so many people and put that into our schools and communities we would see real change.

    https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2018/04/30/2018-09062/annual-determination-of-average-cost-of-incarceration (https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2018/04/30/2018-09062/annual-determination-of-average-cost-of-incarceration)

    https://www.scholarships.com/news/prison-incarceration-costs-more-than-harvard-university-tuition (https://www.scholarships.com/news/prison-incarceration-costs-more-than-harvard-university-tuition)

    To me the biggest problem in our country is pure ignorance.I blame the media for much of it, but our schools are pretty bad too. When I tell colleagues that the average person on food stamps is on it for 6 months and gets $1.72 per person per meal, they say really, I didn't know that. I have worked side by side next to so many hardworking parents.

    https://www.snaptohealth.org/snap/snap-frequently-asked-questions/ (https://www.snaptohealth.org/snap/snap-frequently-asked-questions/)

    The other one, oh we can't change minimum wage and the only people who work for min wage are college kids or stupid people. Well when minimum wage is $7.75 or whatever it is, that means businesses can pay managers with college degrees $8.75.

    When I worked at Head Start it drove me crazy that they had teachers who had no college education being a child's first experience with schools and dealing with parents who are already struggling.

    I have said Head Start is segregation ever since I worked there. We need universal pre-school for every child everywhere, in our country, and everywhere in the world. We need to help every mother everywhere have access to healthy food, clean water and an education.

    I am so sick of people telling me well why do they have so many children? Don't they know about birth control? Duh, of course they don't have access to birth control. We hardly have equal access to birth control in our country.

    I hate people who say oh, people don't have health insurance because they are too lazy to get a real job or go to college. I'm so sick of Republicans that say I am not going to have my money that I work so hard for go to people to rip off the system and lay on their couch.

    I have seen so many parents I have worked side by side with that work day shift and night shift so their kids have a parent home, barely see each other and still have no insurance option. Now some of that might have changed thanks to Obamacare.

    Anyway my point today was about restorative justice. If you want a good primer on restorative justice and an easy read I love Ben Mickaelson's Touching Spirit Bear. (https://amzn.to/386kq39) Without a doubt incarceration isn't working in our country.

    When I went to college back in 2003, I can still remember my reading teacher, Jan LaBonty drawing a circle on the board, and she said, 2% of the country that was the amount of people who really didn't understand right from wrong and belonged in jail. The other 20% ju

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    322. The 6 Principles of Resilient Behavior | Robin Kelson | Good Seed Company

    322. The 6 Principles of Resilient Behavior | Robin Kelson | Good Seed Company

    Friday • June 12, 2020

     Recently Robin Kelson from the (https://www.thriveinc.com/post/becoming-more-resilient-robin-kelson) What disruptive change is and why it can be a good thing.

    How we can tap into the intelligence and resilience in our bodies.

    What six behaviors we need to become more resilient.

    How we can thrive in the aftermath of the coronavirus.

    Why collaboration and cooperation are crucial to our existence.

    Why engaging the prefrontal cortex will enable us to be more resilient.

    Why we, as humans, are not as individual or unique as we might think!

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    Get your copy of the (https://amzn.to/2wWaE5y) and get started building your own earth friendly garden today!

    Tell us a little about yourself.Sure! I have worn many hats among them as a biochemist and attorney with an expertise in intellectual property law so I come with that background, and I have always been really interested in what constitutes resiliency, although I didn't call it that back then.

    I got interested in what was the core of what I saw about 30 years ago an epidemic of chronic disorders in our culture

    physical bodies and impacts on our bodies. I didn't understand it, and I couldn't get any satisfaction from the 




    scientific approach

    I looked into it, i’ve led lots of

    creating soil enhancements

    re-nourishing the soil

    now as the owner of the Good Seed Co (https://goodseedco.net/)  that sells heirloom seeds adapted to our region in montana where we live and particularly in the 

    selecting and saving and sharing seeds for common usewithout eating we are not nourished and we don’t keep the species going

    I’m also a co-executive director of  AEROMT (https://aeromt.org/) just metal to the petal particularly in response to the covid epidemic and it's impact on the food system in Montana, all the work so many of our organizations have been doing on resiliency and sustainability

    every single Montanan has ben impacted by it

    opportunity to regrow our own food supply

    1950 we grew about 70% of our own food and now it's down to about 7%

    a little bit about me

    in my journey as you mentioned

    a curiosity about resiliency

    examples that exist in nature. I have been studying that because it intrigues me for 30 years. I have been talking about it recently from my own perspective there's some really good systems for developing a resiliency. I call it 

    developing resiliency intelligence.


    I didn't really hear the term resiliency till you and I went to the (https://aeromt.org/) back in 2017? 2018?

    i think it’s good to start by defining sustainability and lets look at one in nature

    they are 2 different terms and both have a place

    a sustainable system is one that can keep going over time! The more then the inputs to the system are locally accessible and renewable the more sustainable that system!So let's look at a farm and what they need in order to grow food they need seeds

    nourishment for the soil

    power source

    water underground to power the well

    if they save their own seed that means their seeds are locally accessible and renewable. As long as they keep growing and saving them, that’s a sustainable activity.

    If they make their own compost and use worm castings of that nature that's locally accessible and renewable as opposed to buying chemical fertilizer that comes from Canada by way of Texas that' s just not sustainable it's not local.

    The third would be if your power for your waterfall is local accessible renewable

    it's not dependent on getting access to gas or fuel

    If you had an electric tractor or it was powered by biodiesel and plants that you grow

    So that's the...

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    Solving Food Insecurity by Building Sustainable Systems | How you can help | Patti Robin and I

    Solving Food Insecurity by Building Sustainable Systems | How you can help | Patti Robin and I

    Join Patti Armbrister for the Composting Not Just GOOD But GREAT Workshop (https://mailchi.mp/a8d9d66af778/compost-not-just-good-but-great-and-more-too) with the Wise Grower Guru!IDK why it seems to me it's easiest for me to talk when I am either walking or driving, when I have my computer out it seems like my mind is blank! So today I am driving, I am so excited I just got back from having lunch with Patti Armbrister and Robin Kelson and it was so good to see them.

    AERO - Alternative Energy Resource OrganizationRobin has been so busy! She became one of the co-directors of AERO the Alternative Energy Resource Organization and they are working really hard to help change four food systems to sustainable food systems.

    One question people ask me a lot about my Jeannette Rankin book is why do women make better representatives? And it's not necessarily that they are better but they do make up 50% of the population so they deserve 50% of the people and they tend to work more cooperatively finding solutions to problems.

    What can we do to help solve food systems?So we were saying what are the things we can do to help and I think I also talked about this with (https://organicgardenerpodcast.com/podcast-2/interview-287-bob-quinn/) , that Americans just don't spend enough of a percentage of their income on food. And that when Americans spent more of their paycheck on groceries they grew more of their own food. That up until the 1950s Montanans grew 70% of the food consumed here and that we need to get back to growing and eating locally.

    Also food subsidies, and you might not think that food is that cheap right now but it is compared to what other people pay in other countries and what we have paid in the past. So that makes it really hard for organic farmers to compete. For local famers. We had a big conversation about wheat in Montana, we have huge ranches and none of the wheat grown in Montana (https://www.farmflavor.com/montana/grown-montana-2018/) is shipped out of Montana, probably none of it is eaten here. So that's part of the problem.

    This article from 2015 shows that we export 80% of Montana wheat to Asia mostly Japan. (https://www.farmflavor.com/montana/grown-montana-2018/)

    So she's working on

    reducing food miles

    trying to get rid of the subsidies to the big cheap corporations for food and helping some of these local farmers

    a big piece is the government getting involved and forcing

    she was talking about these farm unions that it is not ok for the giant corporations to own all these gigantic farms but no one is really enforcing it

    This all leads to the poor health in the US. We could solve a lot of health issues in the US by and this is where Patti Armbrister was jumping in about how a lot of organic farms are struggling with their soil after just tilling and tilling and tilling and their not taking good enough care of the food soil web to keep growing food after 10 + years.

    Anyway that's what this is supposed to be about Patti teaches this composting webinar training, that she does and she has done it in Whitefish at the Spirit farm in Whitefish I think she said it was an hour long workshop and then there is 45 minutes of questions people ask. She said at the workshop they go outside and do some things but a lot of it is online and if you are composting properly and creating these worm castings is just the biggest way to be successful

    Also getting the most bang for your buck because if you are going to do the composting you might as well be getting the most nutrients you can from it!

    And when I just talked to Chrisitina Mcinnis from Soil Kit. (https://organicgardenerpodcast.com/podcast-2/320-soilkit-christina-woerner-mcinnis-foley-alabama/) Patti said I need to put some gypsum because everyone in Montana has too much calcium in their soil.

    So Patti is going to offer the Composting Cours

    • 14 min
    321. From Panic to Empowerment | Chloe Lieberman | Wild Abundance | Asheville, NC

    321. From Panic to Empowerment | Chloe Lieberman | Wild Abundance | Asheville, NC

    May 24, 2020

    Blog and Newsletter Writer, Instructor for Nutrition, Gardening, and Wildcrafting

    Tell us a little about yourself.

    Wild Abundance (https://www.wildabundance.net/classes/online-gardening-school/) is more then a website it's a school, I live here and the school is here in the Southern Appalachian mountains just outside of Asheville, North Carolina


    winter squash

    sweet potatoes

    micro dairy, one Jersey cow and mostly Alpine dairy goats

    flock of ducks


    medicinal and edible mushroom cultivation

    medicinal plants

    the school that i work for is located just down the road 

    campus is run by my dear friend, Natalie dog walker


    this year

    we are walking on an online gardening school

    teaching people all over the world

    pretty much because

    we love it an are passionate

    afraid of breakdown of supply chains

    surge and your listeners have noticed

    interested in gardening

    when you first start out gardening it can be 



    steering them in the right direction

    folks who have that inspiration can have that success and keep going

    I always think it's interesting, I always dreamed of going to Montana, I knew a girl who always wanted to go to Maryland. She's like doesn't that just sound beautiful?

    can really

    20 acres

    we have 23 acres

    bigger farms in this state



    up in the mountains

    Appalachian mountain chain in the southern part of that mountain chain. It's one of the oldest mountain formations in the world

    Lots of endemic species that live here

    It's a beautiful verdant jungle in the spring and summer

    temperate rainforest

    lots of rain

    gets chilly changing with climate change

    A big chunk of that is wooded hillside

    farm per se flatland 3-4 acres

    where we have the animals

    harvest timber obviously for wood heat cooking and mushroom cultivation My partner is just dedicated at working away at developing a silvapasture and nut orchard up on the slope.

    I'm sure your listeners know 23 acres can mean a lot of different things if you have top soil and if it's hilly landso we are somewhere in between

    flat for the mountains

    do grow our vegetables

    steep land marshy boggy land

    That's similar where we are surrounded by doug fir forest and you can see before and after pics on our website. where he has cut the forest to build the minifarm.

    Tell me about your first gardening experience?well, I didn’t grow up gardeningI grew up in the suburbs in the bay area in Northern, CA

    small rural western part of the county

    alternative school that happened to be a public school, was really a blessing for me and my family getting to go to a private school that was public and free


    project based


    open classroom

    in marin

    more rural part

    best friend mom had dairy goats

    made her own beer

    apple sauce

    My other friends mom

    grew beautiful roses

    berries and fruits

    I did have early exposure

    we had a garden at my school

    early childhood exposure I was drawn to plants and animals

    I didn't tend my own garden till I was in college

    I knew I wanted to study


    environmental studies

    sustainable food systems

    avid cook


    love vegetables and cook lots

    Anyone who cooks a lot has a visceral understanding of the difference of quality of veg

    grown in sustainable

    industrial food system

    was a driving force for me








    macro systems

    food justice systems

    way that the world works

    How farmers are treated around the world

    how they can make a living

    farmers and gardens

    current practices and practices that would be...

    • 47 min
    320. Soilkit.com | Christina Woerner Mcinnis | Foley, Alabama

    320. Soilkit.com | Christina Woerner Mcinnis | Foley, Alabama

    Welcome to the GREEN Organic Garden Podcast it’s Friday, May 22, 2020 and I have the most awesome guest online. I feel bad we were chatting about school. She is from (http://SoilKit.com) They sent Mike and I a sample I got the results back already, I made videos of me using it. Here today a rockstar Millennial is Christina, I don’t know your last name!

    That was a great intro! Thank you Quick thing just about myself, my name is Christina Woerner Mcinnis. I am a Mom of 4 born in the 80s. My family has been farming for over 100 years. I am a 5th generation farmer. I just got my bicentennial membership for the state of Alabama.

    I am very proud to be a farmer! I love raising kids to be farmers.My passion if I were to tell you my hobby!

    #1 would be politics

    #2 would be international ag

    I am fascinated about traveling around the world and learning about it! 

    As a tid bit, the most fascinating country I have been to with organic farming is:

    CUBA organic practice I have ever seen!hands down, most fascinating organic practices!

    That’s my hobby those are my passions.

    now to tell you about (http://SoilKit.com)

    my dad is the Woerner family from





    grows everything from



    turf grass

    I kept having homeowners come in and saying somethings wrong with

    citrus trees

    my lawn


    What should I be doing?It’s just like going to the doctor, you can come in for a well checkup and he wants to take a look at your blood results.

    They come in and there’s a diagnostic? I say what is the soil sample what did it look at.Homeowners here have a soil sample but the process was difficult for a homeowner to understand.

    I asked dad, I wanted to do this project. I want to make this a digital process, it's too difficult for the homeowners to understand. let’s take this the pain point out of the market place, it’s the most important test you can do.

    I aligned with a very talented person, Michaal Raines who did tech for the medical industry if you can dot his for them you can do it for dirt so come on let's get this project off the ground

    paired the agronomy of



    and the tech side 

    with his engineering and digital side

    So now we have rolled out (http://SoilKit.com) , turned out to be a more extensive



    So you get soil kit what you do, it comes in the mail. 

    You can get it with or without a trowel

    Your listeners probably everybody has a trowel

    https://youtu.be/0GNaMdyThcQ#1 thing to do is register kiteverything will be populated to you, you will get a google satelite image

    gardening in the soil land you can go drop the pins

    calculate with google satellite imagery

    click confirm and a little tutorial will be there.

    go take your four samples from a 10,000 foot area

    When you are gardening I need it at least

    grass will reside

    2-4 inches deep

    4 inches with the root level

    take the soil at that level

    raise the red flag

    All you have to do is put in your information is put in your information, then the lab knows the second it gets there they know this is Jackie

    it’s a garden

    we’re gonna go the basic test

    b3 test

    Then the lab will cut it open and they bake that soil overnight. The next day it comes out run it through all these impressive equipment that they have there, top of the line.

    Nationwide, third party lab, same lab our farms use.Then they populate, digitize, they throw all the info up to the cloud. The cloud talks to ours and we put it into a beautiful customer dashboard so you can view your results.

    We can do organic, Jackie we didn’t have you set up as organic. But we do organic, pretty much it’s just a quick easy way to do a soil sample. We really know the importance of it and we really...

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Customer Reviews

4.5 out of 5
118 Ratings

118 Ratings

Angela Brown Oberer ,

Love this concept

Finding this show was exciting for me because Dad has been an organic gardener my entire life. With greenhouses and orchards he spends hours a day tending to his plants. Jackie’s Garden goal challenge with time saving tips gave me lots of food for thought in how I can help him leverage his time outside. 👍👍👍

Cleoito ,

Great guests - bad host

The host sounds like they haven’t done any research. The host does not seem to have insightful or thoughtful questions ready for the guests. Host is distracted a lot. To many noises; phones have gone off in episodes. Advice to the host: be ready for your guest, be ready to record, show more thoughtfulness / mindfulness.

SurvivalDad ,

Lovin’ the challenge!

We’re building out our backyard “mini-farm” and this podcast landed in our laps at just the right time. Thanks, Jackie!

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