He Says, She Says, They Say

Azielia Anne & Iqbal Fatkhi
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He Says, She Says, They Say

A podcast about conversations on topics that men and women don't usually have with each other... but should. With perspectives from different guests each episode, we'll make you think, question, and most importantly (hopefully), laugh!

Episodes

  1. Cancel Culture (with Rish Tandapany)

    06/08/2021

    Cancel Culture (with Rish Tandapany)

    It has become a bogeyman to many, yet still many are unsure what it even is. We speak to Rish Tandapany, the founder and CEO of boutique thought consultancy Trynkle, about cancel culture to find out more about its origins, what cancel culture actually is, and its implications on modern society. Social media links: Rish TandapanyWebsite: https://www.trynkle.com/Twitter: @RTandapanyInstagram: @asktrynkle Iqbal FatkhiTwitter: @IqtodabalInstagram: @Iqtodabal Azielia AnneTwitter: @azielianneInstagram: @azielianne

    39 min
  2. Anti-Vaxxers (with Dr. Khoo Yoong Khean)

    05/19/2021

    Anti-Vaxxers (with Dr. Khoo Yoong Khean)

    Following the publication of a now-debunked paper tying vaccines to autism in 1998, there has been a growing group of anti-vaccine believers actively trying to combat efforts to vaccinate the world against preventable diseases. Now, as Malaysia embarks on its drive to deliver the COVID vaccine, we speak to healthcare administrator Dr, Khoo Yoong Khean about anti-vaxxers, their beliefs, and how governments should deal with them. Dr. Khoo Yoong KheanWebsite: https://www.medium.com/@yoongkheanTwitter: @yoongkhean Iqbal FatkhiTwitter: @IqtodabalInstagram: @Iqtodabal Azielia AnneTwitter: @azielianneInstagram: @azielianne

    31 min
  3. Are Billionaires Halal in Islam? (with Areeb Siddiqui)

    04/29/2021

    Are Billionaires Halal in Islam? (with Areeb Siddiqui)

    As the world sees a global increase in wealth inequality, many are pointing to the immorality of a handful of the world’s population owning most of its wealth. Given this, we speak with the CEO of Islamic budgeting and investing app Kestrl to hear what Islam might have to say about this issue and how zakat might be an answer to these problems. Social media links: Areeb Siddiqui, Kestrl AppWebsite: https://kestrl.io/Twitter: @KestrlAppInstagram: @areeb.a.siddiqui Iqbal FatkhiTwitter: @IqtodabalInstagram: @Iqtodabal Azielia AnneTwitter: @azielianneInstagram: @azielianne

    37 min
  4. Why Malaysian Food Gets No Respect (with Amirul Ruslan)

    04/15/2021

    Why Malaysian Food Gets No Respect (with Amirul Ruslan)

    Ask someone if they want a bowl of Pho or a plate of Pad Thai and they'll get all excited, but ask someone if they want Nasi Lemak and suddenly they're screaming "who are you?" and "how did you get into my house?". In this episode, we speak to food writer/journalist-turned-musician Amirul Ruslan to find out how Malaysian cuisine got left behind as its neighbors win Michelin stars and international acclaim abroad. Social media links: Amirul RuslanTwitter: @amirulruslanInstagram: @amirulruslanSpotify: HH The Archduke Iqbal FatkhiTwitter: https://twitter.com/IqtodabalInstagram: @Iqtodabal Azielia AnneTwitter: @azielianne

    36 min
  5. Incels (with Munira Mustaffa)

    03/23/2021

    Incels (with Munira Mustaffa)

    Following the shootings that resulted in 8 victims in Atlanta, Georgia, we speak to Munira Mustaffa about an internet subculture known as incels, and their evolution into a real-world threat, as well a surprising connection between incel violence in the US to Malaysia. Munira is a security practitioner and research fellow at Verve Research who was one of the first people in Malaysia to highlight right-wing extremism in terms of terrorism and political violence. Social media links: Munira MustaffaTwitter: @MuniraMustaffa Iqbal FatkhiTwitter: @IqtodabalInstagram: @Iqtodabal Azielia AnneTwitter: @azielianne

    32 min
  6. Why Some Women Uphold the Patriarchy (with Lynn Davies & Basem Talha)

    03/17/2021

    Why Some Women Uphold the Patriarchy (with Lynn Davies & Basem Talha)

    Azielia and Iqbal speak to a researcher at the European Commission, Lynn Davies, and former Master's student at the International Islamic University of Malaysia, Basem Talha, about structures of patriarchy around the world, how they affect those living in them, and why some women uphold these structures at their own detriment. Social media links: Lynn DaviesInstagram: @Lynn_Marissa_ Iqbal FatkhiTwitter: @IqtodabalInstagram: @Iqtodabal Azielia AnneTwitter: @azielianne

    35 min
  7. A Malaysian Game Theory (with Ooi Kok Hin)

    02/20/2021

    A Malaysian Game Theory (with Ooi Kok Hin)

    We speak to former Penang Institute research analyst and current Waseda University graduate student, Ooi Kok Hin, about Game Theory - both literally while playing the popular online game Among Us, as well as academically, in analyzing game theory scenarios in Malaysian politics. Social media links: Ooi Kok HinTwitter: @CinaCakapMelayuPodcast: @Duripod Iqbal FatkhiTwitter: @IqtodabalInstagram: @Iqtodabal Azielia AnneTwitter: @azielianne

    28 min
  8. Incest (with Muzakir Xynll)

    02/06/2021

    Incest (with Muzakir Xynll)

    Today's guest is Muzakir, a former stand-up comic and current comedy/improv sketch writer who joins Azielia and Iqbal to discuss incestuous relationships between family members and whether there might ever come a time when romantic relationships between siblings or parents and children become normalized, and maybe even one day, legalized. Social media links: Muzakir Xynll Twitter: @mzkrx Instagram: @mzkrx Website: www.mzkrx.com Patreon website: https://www.patreon.com/pinballmonkeys Iqbal Fatkhi instagram: @iqtodabal Twitter: @iqtodabal  Azielia Anne Twitter: @azielianne  If you’d like to get in touch with us, or have any ideas for topics or guest speakers that you'd like to hear more about, drop us an inbox at inbox@heshetheysay.com and you can also follow us on twitter @heshetheysay_ Till next time, bye!

    34 min
  9. Who is Ian Miles Cheong? (with Sharrif Salleh)

    01/23/2021

    Who is Ian Miles Cheong? (with Sharrif Salleh)

    Iqbal gets really excited in this episode as he and Sharrif Salleh, a former political researcher, discuss the journey of a Malaysian man from Ipoh, Ian Miles Cheong, going from internet notoriety as one of the first Reddit moderators to be banned from the site, to internet infamy as one of the most well known right-wing, conservative pundits on American politics, despite him not actually even living in America, not being American, and as some allege, never having even been to America. Social media links: Shariff Salleh Twitter: @SharrifInstagram: @Sharrifb Iqbal Fatkhiinstagram: @iqtodabalTwitter: @iqtodabal Azielia AnneTwitter: @azielianne If you’d like to get in touch with us, or have any ideas for topics or guest speakers that you'd like to hear more about, drop us an inbox at inbox@heshetheysay.com and you can also follow us on twitter @heshetheysay_ Thanks for listening! Till next time, Bye!

    28 min
  10. K-Pop Fanaticism (with Shafiqah Othman)

    01/09/2021

    K-Pop Fanaticism (with Shafiqah Othman)

    Shafiqah Othman, a writer and artist who publishes on her own website, ShafiqahOthman.com, and on Medium. Shafiqah shares her experience going from avowed hatred of K-Pop, to mild acceptance, when she discovers her husband is a K-Pop fan himself, to full-fledged K-Pop fanaticism when she starts discovering her own passion for the genre which helped us understand why so many other fans have made the same journey, and how K-Pop managed to take over the world. Social media links: Shafiqah OthmanTwitter: @sfqomhzWebsite: www.ShafiqahOthman.com Iqbal Fatkhiinstagram: @iqtodabalTwitter: @iqtodabal Azielia AnneTwitter: @azielianne If you’d like to get in touch with us, or have any ideas for topics or guest speakers that you'd like to hear more about, drop us an inbox at inbox@heshetheysay.com and you can also follow us on twitter @heshetheysay_ Thanks for listening! Till next time, Bye!

    31 min
  11. Mental Load (with Natasha Shazana)

    12/24/2020

    Mental Load (with Natasha Shazana)

    Welcoming our first guest to the podcast is Natasha Shazana, the founder of SOKO [as in soko(ng)], an intimate apparel brand based in Malaysia which prioritises comfort and real women representation. As a mother of two (cats), a wife of one (husband), and a daughter of an outstanding couple, Natasha is readjusting to the KL-life having moved here from the Big Apple (NYC). In this episode, Natasha shares her thoughts on a concept that we often face but seldom hear, the "mental load". Join your hosts, Iqbal and Azielia, and Natasha as they find out what the mental load is about, why so many couples still deal with this problem, and what the solution might be - even if there is a 100% chance some people might take this problem as just overthinking! We would like to thank Natasha for revealing her secrets.  Topics discussed in this episode are: * What is the mental load?* Why does it discriminate between genders?* Why is there an expectation for some to take on a heavier mental load than others?* The guest shares her personal experience on the matter * How do we overcome it? Social media links: Natasha ShazanaInstagram: @brapreneur Twitter: @brapreneur  Iqbal Fatkhiinstagram: @iqtodabalTwitter: @iqtodabal  Azielia AnneTwitter: @azielianne  If you’d like to get in touch with us, or have any ideas for topics or guest speakers that you'd like to hear more about, drop us an inbox at inbox@heshetheysay.com and you can also follow us on twitter @heshetheysay_ Thanks for listening! Till next time, Bye!

    29 min
  • 11 Episodes

About

A podcast about conversations on topics that men and women don't usually have with each other... but should. With perspectives from different guests each episode, we'll make you think, question, and most importantly (hopefully), laugh!

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  • Creator
    Azielia Anne & Iqbal Fatkhi
  • Years Active
    2020 - 2021
  • Episodes
    11
  • Rating
    Explicit
  • Copyright
    © 2025 Azielia Anne & Iqbal Fatkhi
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