Health Hats, the Podcast

Danny van Leeuwen, Health Hats
Health Hats, the Podcast

Welcome to Health Hats, empowering people as they travel together toward best health. I am Danny van Leeuwen and I have worn many hats in my 40+ years in healthcare as a patient, caregiver, nurse, informaticist, and leader. Everyone wears many hats, but I wear them all at once. We will listen and learn about what it takes to adjust to life's realities in healthcare’s Tower of Babel. Let's make some sense of all this. My guests and I reflect on what works for people, professionals, and communities in their journeys toward best health: learning, making choices, communicating, and adjusting to realities. We can range from personal, clinical, technical, entrepreneurial, organizational, to whatever interests me at the moment. Join the ride! Follow my blog, podcast, and resources through my website: https://health-hats.com/. See you around the block!

  1. 5 DAYS AGO

    Insight to Impact: Patient Voices in Health Tech & Policy

    Effective solutions & ethical guardrails for data-driven decision-making, care, & treatment require patient involvement in policy & technology development. Summary Patient Insights on Health Access, Technology, and Public Policy  Data should inform decision-making for a triad of patients, caregivers, and clinician partners. Some patients desire data sovereignty - the ability to access, use, and share their health data. However, managing personal health data can be overwhelming for individuals. Transparency about data usage and privacy is crucial for building trust. There are concerns about potential stigma and discrimination from data misuse. Including patients in policy and technology development can lead to more effective solutions. Ethical guardrails are needed, particularly for data aggregation and monetization by companies. There's a mix of optimism and pessimism about the future of health data management. Collaboration with patients in development processes can increase the likelihood of successful outcomes. Click here to view the printable newsletter with images. More readable than a transcript, which can also be found below. Contents Table of Contents Toggle EpisodeProemPodcast introLevel set – Get Your Patient On90% Similar, 100% HumanInspiration from Data: Weak Link in our HealthRelationship Triad for Decision-Making: Patient, Caregiver, Clinician PartnerUnintended Consequences – Crystal Ball GazingData Sovereignty – Self-GovernanceFederated Model of Data (Confederacy of Confederacies)Call to actionTrust Communities – Relaxed ControlTransparency – Knowing What You Don’t KnowAnonymous Data. Really?Guardrails – Safety and PrivacyStigma and DiscriminationPessimism or Optimism About the FutureReflectionData and Decision-MakingData Sovereignty and ManagementEthical ConsiderationsPolicy and Technology DevelopmentOutlookPodcast Outro Please comment and ask questions: at the comment section at the bottom of the show notes on LinkedIn  via email YouTube channel  DM on Instagram, Twitter, TikTok to @healthhats Production Team Kayla Nelson: Web and Social Media Coach, Dissemination, Help Desk  Leon van Leeuwen: article-grade transcript editing  Oscar van Leeuwen: video editing Julia Higgins: Digital marketing therapy Steve Heatherington: Help Desk and podcast production counseling Joey van Leeuwen, Drummer, Composer, and Arranger, provided the music for the intro, outro, proem, and reflection, including Moe's Blues for Proem and Reflection and Bill Evan's Time Remembered for on-mic clips. Podcast episodes on YouTube from Podcast. Inspired by and Grateful to  Kistein Monkhouse, Claire Sachs, Christine Von Raesfeld, Geri Lynn Baumblatt, Aaron Carroll, Erin Holve, Adam Thompson, Kathleen Noonan, Andrea Downing Links and references The Panel Kistein Monkhouse, the moderator, founded Patient Orators. My peeps are Christine Von Raesfeld, founder of People with Empathy and with the Light Collective, and Claire Sachs, founder of the Patient Advocate Chronicles and TPAC Consulting. A federated data model for patient data PCORnet is a prime example of a federated data system. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8596061/ Episode Proem Kistein Monkhouse invited me to participate in a 30-minute panel at September’s Academy Health’s Datapalooza...

    38 min
  2. SEP 8

    Accessible Off-Road Travel in an All-Terrain Wheelchair

    Philip Shadle, CEO, Aimee Copeland Foundation opens outdoor accessibility for disabled individuals with all-terrain wheelchairs. My endorphins flow. Yeehaw! Summary This podcast episode features an interview with Philip Shadle, CEO of the Aimee Copeland Foundation, discussing the transformative impact of all-terrain wheelchairs on accessibility and outdoor experiences for individuals with disabilities. The podcast underscores the importance of accessibility and inclusion in outdoor activities, celebrating the collaborative efforts of organizations, individuals, and communities to enhance the lives of people with disabilities. Click here to view the printable newsletter with images. More readable than a transcript, which can also be found below. Contents Table of Contents Toggle EpisodeProemPodcast introOff-road wheelchair travelIntroducing Philip ShadleTravel in Costa RicaFoundation Business ModelAll-Terrain Wheelchair Models Call to actionTraining for Off-Road TravelBirthing the FoundationExpanding the Foundation OfferingsGratefulContestReflectionPodcast Outro Please comment and ask questions: at the comment section at the bottom of the show notes on LinkedIn  via email YouTube channel  DM on Instagram, Twitter, TikTok to @healthhats Production Team Kayla Nelson: Web and Social Media Coach, Dissemination, Help Desk  Leon van Leeuwen: article-grade transcript editing  Oscar van Leeuwen: video editing Julia Higgins: Digital marketing therapy Steve Heatherington: Help Desk and podcast production counseling Joey van Leeuwen, Drummer, Composer, and Arranger, provided the music for the intro, outro, proem, and reflection, including Moe's Blues for Proem and Reflection and Bill Evan's Time Remembered for on-mic clips. Podcast episodes on YouTube from Podcast. Inspired by and Grateful to  Ann Boland, Bruce Kimmel, Olivia Zivney, Linda DeRosa, and all my many helpers Links and references Camino de Santiago pilgrimages, Costa Rica Aimee Copeland Foundation Action Track Chair in different sizes. Episode Proem According to the CDC A disability is any condition of the body or mind (impairment) that makes it more difficult for the person with the condition to do certain activities (activity limitation) and interact with the world around them (participation restrictions). Clearly, it's not a legal definition. I would add self-image, societal perceptions, and environment as components of that definition. Some days, I feel more disabled than other days, and some situations enhance or reduce my abilities. Ability/Disability is a continuum that changes over time and situation. Travel accentuates my abilities - puts them in high relief - for me. Travel requires close examination of my abilities so I can figure out how to manage minute-to-minute - constant decision-making. Travel allows me to stretch my capabilities. It’s exhilarating and eventually exhausting. Periodically, I share my travel experiences. Remember the two Camino de Santiago pilgrimages, one in 2019 and the other 2022? In 2023 we explored Costa Rica.  We’re planning a music trip to Cuba in four months. Today, I describe our trip to Cloudland Canyon State Park in northwest Georgia. After a zip-lining accident in 2012, when she was 24, Aimee Copeland was hospitalized and diagnosed with a flesh-eating, bacterial infection. They had to amputate both of her hands, right foot, and entire left leg.

    27 min
  3. AUG 4

    Communication Ninjas: Practice, Trust, Evidence

    Aaron Carroll, CEO of Academy Health, discusses his journey to improve health systems & decision making through community engagement & repetitive communication. Summary Aaron Carroll, CEO of Academy Health, shares his journey, from his frustrations with the healthcare system as a pediatrician, and the role of mentorship and science communication in his career. He delves into his efforts to make complex health issues understandable to diverse audiences through various media, his role in improving health care decision making and systems, involving communities in research, and building trust through consistent and repetitive science communication. Dr. Carroll also touches on the importance of implementation science and the challenges of making research findings effective in real-world settings. Click here to view the printable newsletter with images. More readable than a transcript, which can also be found below. Contents Table of Contents Toggle EpisodeProemPodcast introIntroducing Aaron CarrollHealth is FragileWriting a Prescription Isn’t EnoughFix itPhase one: Independent InvestigatorPhase Next: Mentor, Communicator, ResponderAcademy HealthCommunicating Science to the Public Where They AreThe Practice of Communicating for ImpactEngaging Lived ExperiencePatients Included at Academy Health Call to actionKey PointsLived Experience at the Table – Your Lived ExperienceResearch SkepticismLearning When the Hypothesis isn’t ProvenImplementation ScienceEfficacy and EffectivenessTrust and ListeningRepetition, Repetition, RepetitionReflectionPodcast Outro Please comment and ask questions: at the comment section at the bottom of the show notes on LinkedIn  via email YouTube channel  DM on Instagram, Twitter, TikTok to @healthhats Production Team Kayla Nelson: Web and Social Media Coach, Dissemination, Help Desk  Leon van Leeuwen: article-grade transcript editing  Oscar van Leeuwen: video editing Julia Higgins: Digital marketing therapy Steve Heatherington: Help Desk and podcast production counseling Joey van Leeuwen, Drummer, Composer, and Arranger, provided the music for the intro, outro, proem, and reflection, including Moe's Blues for Proem and Reflection and Bill Evan's Time Remembered for on-mic clips. Podcast episodes on YouTube from Podcast. Inspired by and Grateful to  Seth Godin, Nakela Cook, Ann Boland, Ellen Schultz, Steve Heatherington Links and references Aaron Carrol: The Incidental Economist, Healthcare Triage, Robert Wood Johnson Clinical Scholar, New York Times, Indiana University's COVID response. Academy Health: Academyhealth.org/Datapalooza, Communicating for Impact, community-led research grants, Health Data Leadership Institute, Dissemination Implementation Science Conference patient-included criteria implementation science Episode Proem Danny and Ann, July 3, 2024 Together for more than fifty years, my wife and I still practice communication - practice as in repetition, experimentation, and humility with two steps forward and one step back (or one forward and two back). No wonder anyone participating in healthcare continually struggles with the puzzle of communication. Just today, I texted a pharmacy about access to a critical medication with an expired prescription, tried to explain my newly diagnosed diabetes and diet choices on FaceTime with a friend, and drafted a letter about lessons learned about measurement for team members to share with our leaders. I know some master communicators: Seth Godin, Nakela Cook, my wife, Ellen Schultz, Steve Heatherington, and my guest today,

    41 min
  4. JUL 6

    Adieu Mighty Casey, Flow On

    Family and friends dispersed Mighty Casey (Mary) Quinlan’s ashes in the Gulfstream, reflecting on her life and sharing outrageous and mundane pics and stories. Summary On May 24, 2024, Mighty Casey Quinlan's ashes were spread in the Gulfstream of the Atlantic Ocean near Stuart, Florida. This episode captures the layers of that experience, featuring an introduction conversation between Jan Oldenburg and Health Hats, recorded on June 27. The episode includes self-introductions of the dispersal party, a historical photo tour of Casey's life, and a reflection from Hank Burchard. The package of audiovisual pieces including a 17-minute video with introductions and a three-minute photo tour by Casey’s sister, CeCe can be found in the show notes. Coming soon, Casey's website, mightycasey.com, will include all her podcasts and the contents of six VHS and one Beta tape recorded over the years. Check our progress. These show notes DO NOT include images.  Images are key to this episode. Click here to view the printable newsletter with images.  Contents Table of Contents Toggle CreditsEpisodeProemPodcast introThere’s Something Happening HereHow I Met CaseyCall to actionPhoto Tour with Historian, CeCe CaseyJan and Danny sign offReflection from HankPodcast OutroCreative Commons Licensing Please comment and ask questions: at the comment section at the bottom of the show notes on LinkedIn  via email YouTube channel  DM on Instagram, Twitter, TikTok to @healthhats Production Team Kayla Nelson: Web and Social Media Coach, Dissemination, Help Desk  Leon van Leeuwen: article-grade transcript editing  Oscar van Leeuwen: video editing Julia Higgins: Digit marketing therapy Steve Heatherington: Help Desk and podcast production counseling Joey van Leeuwen, Drummer, Composer, and Arranger, provided the music for the intro, outro, proem, and reflection, including Moe's Blues for Proem and Reflection and Bill Evan's Time Remembered for on-mic clips. Podcast episodes on YouTube from Podcast. Inspired by and Grateful to  Jan Oldenburg, CeCe Casey, Michael Casey, Myrna Isaacs, Piper Dankworth, Laurie Rodgers Stukel, Hank Burchard, Dave DeBronkhart, Amy Price Links and references Casey's Website Health Hats Podcasts with and about Casey  Credits Music behind photos scraped from YoYo Ma on Fresh Air Images of Casey throught taken by family and friends over the years Episode This transcript DOES NOT include images.  Images are key to this episode. Click here to view the printable newsletter with images. Proem Health Hats: On May 24th, 2024, we spread Casey’s ashes in the Gulfstream of the Atlantic Ocean near Stuart, Florida. This episode layers several of the many pieces of that experience. I stopped here because I’d had enough. Time to publish! You’ll find an intro conversation between Jan Oldenburg and me recorded on June 27th, followed by self-introductions of the dispersal party, recorded by our guide, Karen Hallett. Next, we’ll take a historical photo tour of Casey’s life, piloted by Casey’s sister, CeCe. I only included about fifteen of the almost one hundred photos, as the resulting three-minute clip took almost twenty hours to produce. We’ll end with me reading Hank Burchard’s post-event reflection, and then Jan and I will wrap it up. The written and audio include everything except the videos, of course. I will create a 17-minute video with the introductions and a three-minute one with the photo tour. I’m resurrecting Casey’s website to include all her podcasts and the contents o...

    35 min
  5. JUN 2

    Exploring Long Covid One Spoonful at a Time

    Shana Davidson shares her day-to-day Long Covid challenges using the "spoon theory," a metaphor for the limited energy reserves people with chronic illness face Summary The episode explores the fascination with prolific enigmatic conditions, which are common yet complex and often misunderstood illnesses like fibromyalgia, chronic fatigue syndrome, lupus, endometriosis, and long covid. These conditions highlight systemic issues in healthcare, such as various biases and the complexities of corporate medicine and research. Shana Davidson, having personally experienced misdiagnosis and the challenges of navigating these conditions, emphasizes the intersectional barriers faced by women, people of color, and those with mental and spiritual health challenges. Shana shares her journey with long covid, discussing the day-to-day management challenges using the "spoon theory," a metaphor for the limited energy reserves people with chronic illness face. Shana's experience underscores the difficulties in obtaining a diagnosis and appropriate care, reflecting broader issues in the medical system's handling of chronic conditions. Throughout, the podcast touches on themes of resilience, the need for advocacy, and the struggle for recognition and adequate research in treating long covid and similar conditions. The conversation also highlights the importance of compassion and understanding within the medical community and society towards those living with chronic illnesses. Click here to view the printable newsletter with images. More readable than a transcript, which can also be found below. Contents Table of Contents Toggle EpisodeProemPodcast introLearning health is fragileSpoons, SpooniesPace Yourself versus SpoonsBudgeting spoonsRecovery mode variation in spoonsContracting CovidOpening upYikes, Long Covid?Tired of Pursuing AnswersLong Covid CenterAsynchronous communicationFinally Diagnosed Call to actionRebel HealthSocial media help – 2-edged swordUseful helpSome compassion, pleaseWhat’s in a Name?Chronic Disease Management – Diagnosis, Symptoms, Care, TreatmentInvesting in Long CovidReflectionPodcast Outro Please comment and ask questions: at the comment section at the bottom of the show notes on LinkedIn  via email YouTube channel  DM on Instagram, Twitter, TikTok to @healthhats Production Team Kayla Nelson: Web and Social Media Coach, Dissemination, Help Desk  Leon van Leeuwen: article-grade transcript editing  Oscar van Leeuwen: video editing Julia Higgins: Digit marketing therapy Steve Heatherington: Help Desk and podcast production counseling Joey van Leeuwen, Drummer, Composer, and Arranger, provided the music for the intro, outro, proem, and reflection, including Moe's Blues for Proem and Reflection and Bill Evan's Time Remembered for on-mic clips. Podcast episodes on YouTube from Podcast. Inspired by and Grateful to  Jeff Horner, Yaneer Bar Yam, Melissa Reynolds Links and references Episode Proem Ants: Prolific and enigmatic. Image by Open Art AI in style of Paul Barson Prolific enigmatic conditions fascinate me. Prolific (many) is the opposite of rare (few), so not a rare condition. Enigmatic means mysterious riddle. Examples of enigmatic conditions include fibromyalgia, chronic fatigue syndrome, lupus, endometriosis, and long Covid. Enigmatic conditions put a spotlight on isms – racism, sexism, ageism, ablism, paternalism. They reveal a near-universal discomfort with uncertainty. And when you pull back the curtain to try to search or solve, you find the weight of corporate medicine, the research industrial complex,

  6. MAY 5

    A Forrest Gump Career: Chance, Gifts, Support, and Privilege

    Turn-around: Grandson interviews Health Hats about his Zelig-like career path and choices: unpredictable, privileged, mentored, supported, and spiritually healthy. Summary Health Hats is interviewed by his editor, grandson Leon, delving into a discussion about his diverse and impactful career. The episode starts with Leon interviewing Health Hats about the origins and motivations behind the podcast, tracing back to a serendipitous naming and a road trip that solidified the podcast's visual identity. Health Hats shares his journey from opting out of a higher-paying job that required him to cut his long hair to embracing a path in healthcare as a psychiatric aide, which led him to nursing school.  The story also touches on being a male nurse in the 70s, transitioning from direct care to significant hospital and quality management roles. Leon and Health Hats discuss the significant impact of personal decisions on career paths, the unpredictability of life, and the profound influence of one's birth and circumstances. Health Hats reflects on his efforts to improve healthcare systems, advocating for better staff and patient conditions and participatory health. The episode explores Health Hats' professional life, his philosophy on work-life balance, his role as a change agent, and his commitment to continuous learning and improvement. Click here to view the printable newsletter with images. More readable than a transcript, which can also be found below. Contents Table of Contents Toggle EpisodeProemPodcast introBirthing Health HatsNursing school – what’s hair got to do with it?Wanted a lifeFirst male public health nurse in Western MassWe don’t hire men in nursing hereRetiring in our thirties as back-to-the-land hippiesCouldn’t manage an emergency at homeTwelve-bed hospitalWest Virginia, a Third World stateAdvanced Cardiac Life Support Call to actionVolunteering for the Emergency SquadFrom direct care to managementChange agent: staffing and visiting hoursRemote Learning for a Master’s DegreeMoving onStudent of organizational healthOutspoken, driven change agentBest Boss EverThe will to change – leadershipNo, lay me offRetiringProfessional life, more than the jobCan’t keep a jobReflectionPodcast Outro Please comment and ask questions: at the comment section at the bottom of the show notes on LinkedIn  via email YouTube channel  DM on Instagram, Twitter, TikTok to @healthhats Production Team Kayla Nelson: Web and Social Media Coach, Dissemination, Help Desk  Leon van Leeuwen: article-grade transcript editing  Oscar van Leeuwen: video editing Julia Higgins: Digit marketing therapy Steve Heatherington: Help Desk and podcast production counseling Joey van Leeuwen, Drummer, Composer, and Arranger, provided the music for the intro, outro, proem, and reflection, including Moe's Blues for Proem and Reflection and Bill Evan's Time Remembered for on-mic clips. Five-minute episodes on YouTube. Inspired by and Grateful to  Jim Bulger and Bob Doherty (deceased), Eric Pinaud, Jane Sarasohn-Kahn, Luc Pelletier, John Marks, Ann Boland, Lynn Hubbard Links and references Are medication error rates useful as a comparative measures of organizational performance? was published in The Joint Commission Journal on Quality Improvements in 1994 receiving the David K Stumpf Award for Excellence in Publication from the National Association for Healthcare Quality. The article was referenced in the book, Error Reduction in Healthcare by Patrice L. Spath in 2000. 1977 article about Danny van Leeuwen,

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  7. APR 7

    Camden Coalition. The Jury’s In. Long-term Partnerships Rule

    Kathleen Noonan’s quest to build bridges between communities & researchers with long-term relationships & respect for experience & expertise, just like juries. Summary Kathleen Noonan, the CEO, catalyzed the transformation of the Camden Coalition into a national platform for complex care. She focused on capacity building, bridging healthcare research with community organizations, and emphasizing the power of diverse partnerships. Noonan is a staunch advocate for community-driven healthcare, pushing institutions to incorporate local insights and foster long-term relationships that shape better research and policy outcomes. Click here to view the printable newsletter with images. More readable than a transcript, which can also be found below. Two five-minute clips on YouTube. Contents Table of Contents Toggle EpisodeProemPodcast introThe fragility of healthJourney to healthcare advocacyInsights from the legal and corporate worldsTransition to Children’s Policy and HealthcareFirst encounter with Camden CoalitionThe impact of diversity at conferencesMeeting of the minds over community – research interfacesAn outsider co-directing a Research CenterImplementation, a different animal altogetherWho asks the research questions?Partnering in the communityEarning the right to speakFull of myself Call to actionPunching above our weight classFrom a local to a national organizationComplex care centerCommunity Nursing in 1976 – Walking Inner City route.Capacity to partnerLong-term relationships, lean into expertise.MediationMessy and localCommunity participation in research – capacity buildingStart with the research questions askedLong-term relationships informed consumers and researchersConsider juries as an effective, diverse set of mindsExpertise versus credentialsReflectionPodcast OutroPlease comment and ask questions: Episode Proem In 2020, early in the COVID pandemic, I joined with several colleagues asking the questions: How can the research industry help laypeople and communities find evidence-based guidance on how to live safely? Guidance that answers their questions when needed? Guidance that feels familiar and helpful. Guidance they trust. How can we be inclusive of our communities' awesome diversity? See the podcast episode here. We spent several years exploring those questions, informing my passion for community-research partnerships. I highlight such partnerships as often as possible in my podcast. One of my primary advocacy goals is to promote research that answers questions the public and communities ask. My guest today, Kathleen Noonan, is CEO of the Camden Coalition, a multidisciplinary, community-based nonprofit working to improve care for people with complex health and social needs in Camden, across New Jersey, and nationwide. They develop and test care management models and redesign systems in partnership with consumers, community members, health systems, community-based organizations, government agencies, payers, and more to achieve person-centered, equitable care. Podcast intro Welcome to Health Hats, the Podcast. I'm Danny van Leeuwen, a two-legged cisgender old white man of privilege who knows a little bit about a lot of healthcare and a lot about very little. We will listen and learn about what it takes to adjust to life's realities in the awesome circus of healthcare. Let's make some sense of all of this. The fragility of health Health Hats: Kathleen, thank you so much for joining us. I've been looking forward to this. When did you first realize health was fragile? Kathleen Noonan: That's a great question. There are so many different answers to that. At some point as a kid, you realize that your parents aren't just older than you,

    46 min
  8. MAR 16

    Coffee Insights: Flavor, Notes, Health, and Justice

    Exploring the journey of coffee from farm to cup with expert Jen Stone, delving into flavors, cupping, & the ethics of coffee production. Music & Health, too Full 36-min episode on YouTube Two five-minute clips on YouTube. Click here to view or download the printable newsletter Contents Table of Contents Toggle EpisodeProemPodcast introIntroducing Jennifer StoneHealth is FragileProfound Knowledge of Coffee or CaffeineCaffeine Delivery SystemCoffee CupperCoffee Flavor Notes Call to actionCoffee Flavor Notes in My CuppaDifferent tastes and circumstancesFermentationTransparencySocial Justice in Coffee MakingMy PaletteSlow down and tasteYou’ve ruined me a bitEquipmentReflectionPodcast OutroPlease comment and ask questions: Episode Proem When I take two minutes to bitch about the annoyances of having Multiple Sclerosis, I insist that I can’t be repetitive. I must whine and complain with new words. How many words do we have for describing symptoms of pain? Not enough. Sharp, dull, achy, daily, itchy radiating, nauseating, disabling. Greenland has 46 words for snow and no wonder. Profound knowledge about something leads to more words being needed and created. The better we can describe ourselves to ourselves, the deeper we understand our nuances. More accurate and specific descriptions lead to better communication of our symptoms, moods, and circumstances with our health team. Then, we can make informed decisions, plan, and adjust together. Believe it or not, this rant about words leads us to today’s episode on coffee. Welcome to my new hat – coffee snob. Our guest is Jennifer Stone, my colleague in my Thursday morning mastermind group for solo entrepreneurs. Jen is a Sommelier of Coffee and the host of the Coffee Explorer Podcast, a Quality Lecturer, and a Licensed Q Grader by the Coffee Quality Institute. She is internationally recognized as an Expert Coffee Taster and Judge for the Cup of Excellence. She has expertise in finding, sourcing, and sharing remarkable coffees from quality global producers. Over her career, she’s opened multiple cafes and created several direct-to-consumer and business-to-business specialty coffee brands. She provided expertise to others in these areas and is always excited to share the best ways to brew coffee with the market. Jen Stone has opened my eyes in unexpected ways. Drink up! Podcast intro Welcome to Health Hats, the Podcast. I'm Danny van Leeuwen, a two-legged cisgender old white man of privilege who knows a little bit about a lot of healthcare and a lot about very little. We will listen and learn about what it takes to adjust to life's realities in the awesome circus of healthcare. Let's make some sense of all of this. Introducing Jennifer Stone Health Hats: Jen, you've opened many senses for me. We met over the business. We are working together on our business; you know how that's growing and managing. But I've learned from you about coffee, not just coffee. It's about the sense of taste because it's not just, you know, while I'm learning to appreciate fine coffee. I was concentrating more on what was happening in my mouth. I'm finding it with food, chocolate, and alcohol, and just more awareness. Health is Fragile Health Hats: When did you first realize health was fragile? Jennifer Stone: This is such an interesting question. I love that you asked about the word health as fragile and not life as fragile. When a loved one passes, or you have a near-death experience, that speaks about life, but health, specifically, is a little vaguer. About a year and a half ago, I could say I loved to run. I'm not fast, but I love to jog and exercise. One of my knee joints began to wear down.

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Welcome to Health Hats, empowering people as they travel together toward best health. I am Danny van Leeuwen and I have worn many hats in my 40+ years in healthcare as a patient, caregiver, nurse, informaticist, and leader. Everyone wears many hats, but I wear them all at once. We will listen and learn about what it takes to adjust to life's realities in healthcare’s Tower of Babel. Let's make some sense of all this. My guests and I reflect on what works for people, professionals, and communities in their journeys toward best health: learning, making choices, communicating, and adjusting to realities. We can range from personal, clinical, technical, entrepreneurial, organizational, to whatever interests me at the moment. Join the ride! Follow my blog, podcast, and resources through my website: https://health-hats.com/. See you around the block!

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