Health Hats, the Podcast Danny van Leeuwen, Health Hats

Kathleen Noonan’s quest to build bridges between communities & researchers with long-term relationships & respect for experience & expertise, just like juries.



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Kathleen Noonan, the CEO, catalyzed the transformation of the Camden Coalition into a national platform for complex care. She focused on capacity building, bridging healthcare research with community organizations, and emphasizing the power of diverse partnerships. Noonan is a staunch advocate for community-driven healthcare, pushing institutions to incorporate local insights and foster long-term relationships that shape better research and policy outcomes.



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EpisodeProemPodcast introThe fragility of healthJourney to healthcare advocacyInsights from the legal and corporate worldsTransition to Children’s Policy and HealthcareFirst encounter with Camden CoalitionThe impact of diversity at conferencesMeeting of the minds over community – research interfacesAn outsider co-directing a Research CenterImplementation, a different animal altogetherWho asks the research questions?Partnering in the communityEarning the right to speakFull of myself Call to actionPunching above our weight classFrom a local to a national organizationComplex care centerCommunity Nursing in 1976 – Walking Inner City route.Capacity to partnerLong-term relationships, lean into expertise.MediationMessy and localCommunity participation in research – capacity buildingStart with the research questions askedLong-term relationships informed consumers and researchersConsider juries as an effective, diverse set of mindsExpertise versus credentialsReflectionPodcast OutroPlease comment and ask questions:




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In 2020, early in the COVID pandemic, I joined with several colleagues asking the questions:



How can the research industry help laypeople and communities find evidence-based guidance on how to live safely? Guidance that answers their questions when needed? Guidance that feels familiar and helpful. Guidance they trust. How can we be inclusive of our communities' awesome diversity? See the podcast episode here.



We spent several years exploring those questions, informing my passion for community-research partnerships. I highlight such partnerships as often as possible in my podcast. One of my primary advocacy goals is to promote research that answers questions the public and communities ask.



My guest today, Kathleen Noonan, is CEO of the Camden Coalition, a multidisciplinary, community-based nonprofit working to improve care for people with complex health and social needs in Camden, across New Jersey, and nationwide. They develop and test care management models and redesign systems in partnership with consumers, community members, health systems, community-based organizations, government agencies, payers, and more to achieve person-centered, equitable care.

Podcast intro

Welcome to Health Hats, the Podcast. I'm Danny van Leeuwen, a two-legged cisgender old white man of privilege who knows a little bit about a lot of healthcare and a lot about very little. We will listen and learn about what it takes to adjust to life's realities in the awesome circus of healthcare. Let's make some sense of all of this.

The fragility of health

Health Hats: Kathleen, thank you so much for joining us. I've been looking forward to this. When did you first realize health was fragile?



Kathleen Noonan: That's a great question. There are so many different answers to that. At some point as a kid, you realize that your parents aren't just older than you,

Exploring the journey of coffee from farm to cup with expert Jen Stone, delving into flavors, cupping, & the ethics of coffee production. Music & Health, too



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EpisodeProemPodcast introIntroducing Jennifer StoneHealth is FragileProfound Knowledge of Coffee or CaffeineCaffeine Delivery SystemCoffee CupperCoffee Flavor Notes Call to actionCoffee Flavor Notes in My CuppaDifferent tastes and circumstancesFermentationTransparencySocial Justice in Coffee MakingMy PaletteSlow down and tasteYou’ve ruined me a bitEquipmentReflectionPodcast OutroPlease comment and ask questions:




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When I take two minutes to bitch about the annoyances of having Multiple Sclerosis, I insist that I can’t be repetitive. I must whine and complain with new words. How many words do we have for describing symptoms of pain? Not enough. Sharp, dull, achy, daily, itchy radiating, nauseating, disabling.



Greenland has 46 words for snow and no wonder. Profound knowledge about something leads to more words being needed and created. The better we can describe ourselves to ourselves, the deeper we understand our nuances. More accurate and specific descriptions lead to better communication of our symptoms, moods, and circumstances with our health team. Then, we can make informed decisions, plan, and adjust together.



Believe it or not, this rant about words leads us to today’s episode on coffee. Welcome to my new hat – coffee snob. Our guest is Jennifer Stone, my colleague in my Thursday morning mastermind group for solo entrepreneurs. Jen is a Sommelier of Coffee and the host of the Coffee Explorer Podcast, a Quality Lecturer, and a Licensed Q Grader by the Coffee Quality Institute. She is internationally recognized as an Expert Coffee Taster and Judge for the Cup of Excellence. She has expertise in finding, sourcing, and sharing remarkable coffees from quality global producers. Over her career, she’s opened multiple cafes and created several direct-to-consumer and business-to-business specialty coffee brands. She provided expertise to others in these areas and is always excited to share the best ways to brew coffee with the market. Jen Stone has opened my eyes in unexpected ways. Drink up!

Podcast intro

Welcome to Health Hats, the Podcast. I'm Danny van Leeuwen, a two-legged cisgender old white man of privilege who knows a little bit about a lot of healthcare and a lot about very little. We will listen and learn about what it takes to adjust to life's realities in the awesome circus of healthcare. Let's make some sense of all of this.

Introducing Jennifer Stone

Health Hats: Jen, you've opened many senses for me. We met over the business. We are working together on our business; you know how that's growing and managing. But I've learned from you about coffee, not just coffee.



It's about the sense of taste because it's not just, you know, while I'm learning to appreciate fine coffee. I was concentrating more on what was happening in my mouth. I'm finding it with food, chocolate, and alcohol, and just more awareness.

Health is Fragile

Health Hats: When did you first realize health was fragile?



Jennifer Stone: This is such an interesting question. I love that you asked about the word health as fragile and not life as fragile. When a loved one passes, or you have a near-death experience, that speaks about life, but health, specifically, is a little vaguer. About a year and a half ago, I could say I loved to run. I'm not fast, but I love to jog and exercise. One of my knee joints began to wear down.

Susannah Fox’s "Rebel Health" on the power of Seekers, Networkers, Solvers, & Champions in driving patient-led innovation & the communal fight against disease.



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EpisodeProemPodcast introRealizing the Fragility of HealthTransition from Research to ActivismThe Role of Perception in HealthcareA System Versus Community View of Healthcare InnovationHacking Healthcare and StartupsMotivation to Solve Call to actionSeekersNetworkersSolversChampionsNetworker, Seeker, Solver, ChampionNetworker, Champion, SolverPersisting BossLeading by Helping the HelpersActors on the Stage of InnovationEmergence of ChampionsServing CommunitiesRevolutionary Energy – Regina Holliday and Casey QuinlanDraft Counseling – Working from the InsideChampions Stoke FiresRebels in Health – You Are Not AloneC-Suite and Government Meet RebelsStep into Your PowerThe Enemy is Disease​ReflectionPodcast Outro




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Rebel Health by Susannah Fox



As a student of advocacy and activism, I draw warmth from the heat of others’ passion, marvel at the diversity of origin stories, and burst with curiosity about what might come next. How did they start on this journey, and why do they persist? I’ve been a nurse for 50 years. One of the best things about nursing for me was the license to be nosy – for a brief time - a visit or a stay. This nosiness melds nicely as a podcaster for an episode. I often ask guests, “When did you realize health was fragile?” Another student of advocacy and activism is our guest, Susannah Fox.  Susannah is a health and technology strategist. Her book, Rebel Health: A Field Guide to the Patient-Led Revolution in Medical Care, has just been published by MIT Press. She is a former Chief Technology Officer for the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, where she led an open data and innovation lab. She has served as the entrepreneur-in-residence at the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation, and she directed the health portfolio at the Pew Research Center’s Internet Project.

Podcast intro

Welcome to Health Hats, the Podcast. I'm Danny van Leeuwen, a two-legged cisgender old white man of privilege who knows a little bit about a lot of healthcare and a lot about very little. We will listen and learn about what it takes to adjust to life's realities in the awesome circus of healthcare. Let's make some sense of all of this.



Health Hats: Susannah Fox, how are you? It's so good to see you. I've been looking forward to this. You've been my idol for a long time. I first learned about you when you were at Pew Research Center, and I thought your perspective and research were so helpful.

Realizing the Fragility of Health

When did you first realize health was fragile?



Susannah Fox: Wow. The first time I realized that health was fragile was when my dad was a flatliner on the table at the hospital after his heart attack. He was in his fifties and someone who, to anyone who looked at him, would've thought he was a health nut. He went four miles three times a week. He was fit. He loved to hike. He was a mountain climber. And yet he had genetically high cholesterol and a hidden, blocked artery. So, they luckily were able to revive him, and he had open heart surgery and lived long enough to then get kidney cancer in his sixties and melanoma in his seventies.



My dad was my model for lifelong health and perseverance. I love this question because it explains how you learned that health is fragile. But then also what? What happened when you learned that health was fragile? For me, it was seeing my dad persevere to regain his health each time he had a setback....

Celebrating my audience. Describing my multimedia journey, stats, ongoing advocacy, future episodes and a musical bonus featuring the host on the Bari Sax.



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Welcome to this bonus episode of Health Hats, the Podcast for subscribers I appreciate. Life is good while I play in the sandbox of audio-visual communication about best health. One of my Reckoning colleagues (we review each other’s podcasts), Craig Constantine, describes his audience in each episode so he remains focused. I look at the bobbleheads on my windowsill: Scarecrow, Rosie, the Riveter, and Scully from the X-files. My audience is people who help people on their journey toward best health through caregiving, technology, measurement, spiritual strength, and planning. You get the idea.



For an added treat. At the end of this post, I'll include Lechuga Fresca Latin band playing El Quitrin by Bebo Valdez with me on the Bari Sax. Link here if you want to listen now.

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Welcome to Health Hats, the Podcast. I'm Danny van Leeuwen, a two-legged cisgender old white man of privilege who knows a little bit about a lot of healthcare and a lot about very little. We will listen and learn about what it takes to adjust to life's realities in the awesome circus of healthcare. Let's make some sense of all of this.

Managing my bandwidth

I’m finding video creation and production so exciting that I spent 100 hours on the last episode, #214, with Fred Trotter. I can’t sustain that pace. I realized I had spent so much time on a full-length video with images, title slides, and the like that I neglected the meat and potatoes – the blog/newsletter and audio podcast. I also need more time to play my horn and improve my music production skills. So, after spending all that time, I published the full audio podcast (63 minutes), two five-minute and four one-minute videos, and a 30-second teaser/trailer. I think I’ll put the five-minute ones on YouTube as discrete episodes as they stand alone.  You can find them here: Video 1: Naughty Secret about Chart Reviews https://youtu.be/yLRilkr1LJI and Video 2: ChatGPT and health coverage https://youtu.be/pk4wYl0_U9s.

Still learning in my sandbox.

I remain committed to multimedia because you are all so different, and it’s a hoot. I’m continuing my understanding and skill at short-form videos for social media, especially Instagram. My team of Julia, Kayla, Leon, and Oscar cheer me on. I love that I can still learn.



If stats interest you - I don’t know what they mean - for some reason, the downloads for the audio podcast have increased from an average of 5-10 a day for years to 27 a day for the past 30 days (or an increased from 80 to 800 an episode). 90+% of those downloads are consistently listened to for at least 3/4 of the episode length over the years (that includes people who automatically download. See what I mean about not being sure what stats mean).  For those who subscribe to the newsletter version, with almost 50% opened, and readers spend more than five minutes reading when they do open. Kayla tells me I should be proud of that. Social media stats indicate that people scroll past and increasingly stop but don’t stick around for over a second. It is early days, and I’m refining my process. YouTube shorts require clips to be less than 60 seconds, but I’m not sure that’s my target so I may go for two-minute clips on Instagram and TikTok.

Fred Trotter on the balancing privacy & connection, the role of AI in societal judgment, and practical privacy protection strategies with a nod to Mighty Casey



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EpisodeProemPodcast introPrivacy in Digital CommunicationHarm reduction, safety, data aggregationCommunication minimalists and maximalistsPrivacy in small villages during the Bronze AgePrivacy in the viral modern ageJudicial enginePrivacy and shameDenied accessPeer-to-peer connection and privacy riskPeople-to-needs connectionA connection you don’t know you haveHarm reductionOversimplification of harm reductionRedliningAI Artificial IntelligenceCall to actionChatGPT and health coverageAggregating informationAI judicial processes by Insurers outside the courtsWhat can I do to reduce potential harm?The Light CollectivePassword managersPseudonymityLow-tech approachesThe Electronic Frontier FoundationInter-rater reliability in chart reviewsInter-rater reliability and AIAI can make a complex system faster, not betterSituational awarenessExpectations of organizationsChatGPT and Large Language ModelsThe Mighty Casey Quinlan ApproachDALL.E – AI ImagesPrivacy of creatorsDangerously hopeful​ReflectionPodcast OutroPlease comment and ask questions:Production TeamCreditsInspired by and Grateful toLinks and referencesRelated episodes from Health HatsCreative Commons LicensingCC BY-NC-SADisclaimer




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How does YouTube know so much about me? I’m searching on my browser for solutions to my too-slow-responding Bluetooth mouse. In moments, YouTube feeds me shorts about solving Mac problems. I’m following a teen mental health Twitter chat, and my TikTok feed shows threads about mental health apps. How do they know? I’m getting personal comments about my mental health. My mental health is mostly good. Who else will know? Do I care? I live my life out loud. I don’t share what I wouldn’t want on a billboard, which, for me, is almost everything. When is that unsafe? When would I be embarrassed? I’m no longer looking for work, so I don’t care. Who can access my data? What should I share? What does privacy even mean? How does privacy impact the need for connection? Isn’t privacy a continuum – different needs at different times from different people?  So many questions.



Today's guest, Fred Trotter, co-authored the seminal work Hacking Healthcare. Fred is a Healthcare Data Journalist and expert in Clinical Data Analysis, Healthcare Informatics, Differential Privacy, and Clinical Cybersecurity.

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Welcome to Health Hats, the Podcast. I'm Danny van Leeuwen, a two-legged cisgender old white man of privilege who knows a little bit about a lot of healthcare and a lot about very little. We will listen and learn about what it takes to adjust to life's realities in the awesome circus of healthcare. Let's make some sense of all of this.

Privacy in Digital Communication

Health Hats: I picture movement along a continuum when I think about Digital Privacy. Complete privacy is connecting with no one. That’s intolerable. No privacy is connecting with everyone about everything. That’s unsafe and exhausting. Privacy and risk tolerance go hand in hand for me alone and for me with my peeps and tribes. Risk tolerance isn’t fixed it changes with context. My thoughts get muddier when I associate privacy and connection. They are flip sides of the same coin. I need community connection. But the more I connect (content and reach), the more complex privacy becomes. My approach to managing privacy involves harm reduction, a term used in substance use treatment. So, based on my ever-changing risk tolerance and my need for connection,

Lisa Stewart interviews Health Hats to discuss family, music, & listening to younger activists taking over navigation & reform of healthcare.



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EpisodeProemPodcast introWhy reflect? Accept and look forward.Bitch in bursts, not dribblesCatastrophizing, pathological optimistMusic, podcasting, grandsonsListening to younger activistsConnection through video, Instagram, YouTube shortsImpact Call to actionProgressing in musicProgressive condition and musicTravel with abilities in Costa RicaTravel with abilities in the USWords of wisdomReflection on AdvantagePodcast OutroPlease comment and ask questions:Production TeamCreditsInspired by and Grateful toLinks and referencesRelated episodes from Health HatsCreative Commons LicensingCC BY-NC-SADisclaimer




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Happy Holidays, family, friends, and colleagues. May the 2024 New Year infuse wonder, community, and rejuvenation.



I reunited with my friend, Lisa Stewart, at the PCORI Annual Meeting a few months ago. Lisa suggested that she interview me for the new year. When I met Lisa, she was Senior Engagement Officer and Health Equity Advisor at PCORI (the Patient-Centered Outcomes Research Institute). Currently, Lisa is the Principal at Torchlight Engagement Advisors & Leadership Coaching. Her joy lives in connecting ideas, people, and groups for organizations serious about improving the health outcomes of over-burdened communities through health equity strategy implementation and integration, cross-sector partnerships, impact investing, and capacity-building. We ponder privilege, listening, bitching, travel, family, and music. Hang on.

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Welcome to Health Hats, the Podcast. I'm Danny van Leeuwen, a two-legged cisgender old white man of privilege who knows a little bit about a lot of healthcare and a lot about very little. We will listen and learn about what it takes to adjust to life's realities in the awesome circus of healthcare. Let's make some sense of all of this.

Why reflect? Accept and look forward.

Health Hats: Hi, Lisa Stewart. Lovely to see you,



Lisa Stewart: Wow. It's lovely to be seen and be here with you. We had this wild and crazy idea that it was time for Danny to be interviewed, right? We're going to turn the tables on Danny.



DALL·E 2023-12-16 - a color photo of a person looking in a mirror and seeing a black and white younger version of herself



What better time of year as we march into 2024 and start thinking about the life we want to lead and what we want to do differently? I’m thrilled to be in conversation with you anytime, Danny. Anything you want to say?



Health Hats: I have mixed feelings about reflection. On my podcast, I start with a proem, a preface. Why do I  have the conversation? Why this guest, why this topic, whatever. A reflection at the end, done after production - the interview, the producing, the editing - were there pearls here? Is there one more story to tell? But the reflection is essential even though I'm not really a backward-looking guy.



Lisa Stewart: Tell me more.

Bitch in bursts, not dribbles

Health Hats: Life has ups and downs. It is just the way it is. You can't have an up without a down where everything is flat - no ups and downs. Sounds boring to me. I have a chronic illness, and I'm pathologically optimistic, right? That's my style. Other pathologically optimistic people have taught me that you need to take two minutes periodically and just vent. And do the life sucks. Woe is me stuff. But mostly, I don't want to look back and think woe is me. So that's what I mean by not looking back. Accept what is and what are we going to do now.