
How a Master Mediator and Negotiator Remains Calm, Defuses Tension, and Closes Deals | Hesha Abrams | Ep. 156
What does it actually mean to "hold the calm" when everything around you is falling apart?
In this episode, Michael Reddington sits down with Hesha Abrams, an acclaimed master attorney mediator, negotiator, and deal maker with over 30 years of experience resolving high-profile, high-stakes conflicts, including mediating the dispute over the private recipe for Pepsi. Hesha is also the author of Holding the Calm: The Secret to Resolving Conflict and Reducing Tension.
This conversation is packed with immediately applicable strategies for anyone who leads difficult conversations, navigates conflict, or needs to move people toward resolution without losing their own footing in the process.
Hesha breaks down the neuroscience behind why telling someone to calm down backfires every time, how to read the room before a single word is spoken, and why most people are not trying to win. They are trying not to lose. That distinction alone will change how you approach your next negotiation.
What You'll Learn in This Episode
- Why "calm down" makes conflict worse and what to say to yourself instead
- How the amygdala shuts down rational thinking and what it takes to reset it
- The three diagnostic questions Hesha uses to read anyone in under five minutes
- Why high emotions are diagnostic information, not obstacles to manage
- The difference between gratitude and validation and why one is almost always the wrong move
- How to use the VUCS framework to move any conversation toward resolution
- Why the quietest person in the room almost always holds the most power
- How blame signals low emotional maturity and what to do instead
- Why most people are trying not to lose, not trying to win, and how that changes your strategy
- How to close commitments by giving people the ability to say no
Chapters:
- (00:00) Introduction to Hesha Abrams and Holding the Calm
- (04:27) What "Holding the Calm" Really Means and the Neuroscience Behind It
- (08:19) The Three Diagnostic Questions to Read Anyone Quickly
- (11:28) Why High Emotions Are Diagnostic, Not Just Symptoms
- (16:41) Gratitude vs. Validation and Why the Difference Matters
- (21:13) How We Were Conditioned to Communicate Like Kids
- (22:44) Why Blame Never Solves Anything and What to Do Instead
- (26:18) Winning vs. Not Losing: The Hidden Driver in Every Negotiation
- (27:30) Situational Awareness as the Antidote to Narcissism
- (32:28) How to Claim Your Space Without Blame
- (41:45) How Much Conflict Is Actually Avoidable
- (43:01) Using Validation to Defuse Contentious Conversations
- (45:49) How to Close Commitments Without Pressure
Links and Resources:
- HoldingTheCalm.com - https://www.holdingthecalm.com/
- HeshaAbramsMediation.com - https://www.heshaabramsmediation.com/
- Hesha Abrams | LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/hesha-abrams-esq/
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Information
- Show
- FrequencyUpdated Weekly
- PublishedApril 8, 2026 at 7:00 AM UTC
- Length59 min
- Episode156
- RatingClean