My guest this week is Jen Smith, a personal finance expert and author of the Amazon best-selling book The No-Spend Challenge Guide.
Jen and her husband paid off $78,000 of debt in less than two years making well under 6-figures. She talks about it on her blog, Modern Frugality, and as the co-host of the Frugal Friends Podcast.
3:07 – Jen 101 Jen’s podcast teaches people how to spend. She believes people can live a life they love with the money they already have. 9:48 – Money mindsets We think that money is just numbers on a screen when you check your account balance or dollars in a wallet, but it’s only a means to get the things you want. Money touches everything in your life that you care about. 19:30 – Pivotal moments There are pivotal moments in your life where you can choose to be challenged, but it will provide a lot of growth. 21:58 – Dealing with debt Paying off debt is like going on a diet. You try to go extreme and lose it fast, and then a week in you aren’t doing it anymore. The radical middle is making small changes with large impact. 32:41 – Less friction The less friction and barriers there are to paying for something, the more people pay, on average, according to studies. 39:53 – Post debt hangover After paying off debt, it can be hard to get over the shame of how you previously spent money. You can always choose a different path. 51:17 – Get to know you Her splurge item? CrossFit Something we’d never guess about her? She doesn’t like celery. FEATURED QUOTES When I was able to identify what a money mindset really is, I was able to start identifying what I thought about money.
We think that money is just numbers on a screen when you check your account balance or dollars in a wallet, but it’s only a means to get the things you want.
Money touches everything in your life that you care about.
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