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Decoder is a new show from The Verge about big ideas — and other problems. Verge editor-in-chief Nilay Patel talks to a diverse cast of innovators and policymakers at the frontiers of business and technology to reveal how they’re navigating an ever-changing landscape, what keeps them up at night, and what it all means for our shared future.

Decoder with Nilay Patel The Verge

    • Business
    • 4.1 • 2.6K Ratings

Decoder is a new show from The Verge about big ideas — and other problems. Verge editor-in-chief Nilay Patel talks to a diverse cast of innovators and policymakers at the frontiers of business and technology to reveal how they’re navigating an ever-changing landscape, what keeps them up at night, and what it all means for our shared future.

    How an Excel TikToker manifested her way to making six figures a day

    How an Excel TikToker manifested her way to making six figures a day

    Kat Norton is a Microsoft Excel influencer. She has over a million followers on TikTok and Instagram, where she goes by the name Miss Excel, and she’s leveraged that into a software training business that is now generating up to six figures of revenue a day. That’s six figures a day. And she’s only been doing this since June 2020. Nilay Patel talks to her about how she built the business, how she uses energetics to go viral, and why her relationship with social media is so different than other creators and influencers,

    Links:
    Excelerator Course
    A Microsoft Excel influencer quit her day job and is making 6 figures from her unconventional way of teaching spreadsheet hacks, tips, and tricks


    Transcript:
    https://www.theverge.com/e/22571899

    Credits:
    Decoder is a production of The Verge, and part of the Vox Media Podcast Network. Today’s episode was produced by Creighton DeSimone, and Andrew Marino. And we are edited by Callie Wright. Our music is by Breakmaster Cylinder. 
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    • 52 min
    Why the future of work is the future of travel, with Airbnb CEO Brian Chesky

    Why the future of work is the future of travel, with Airbnb CEO Brian Chesky

    Airbnb CEO Brian Chesky prides himself on thinking very differently than other CEOs, and his answers to the Decoder questions about how he structures and manages his company were almost always the opposite of what I’m used to hearing on the show. Airbnb is pretty much a single team, focused on a single product, and it all rolls up to Brian. That’s very different from most other big companies, which have lots of divisions and overlapping lines of authority.
    And Airbnb’s relationship to cities is changing as tourism changes. Airbnb used to be the poster child for a tech company that showed up without permission and fought with regulators, but as the company has grown and the pandemic has changed things, it’s entered what is hopefully a more mature phase — it just came to a deal with New York City after ten years of argument. I asked Brian about that and about what it’s like to run a public company now — the transition from scrappy startup to public company engaged with regulators is a big one.
    Of course, I also had to ask about cryptocurrency and the metaverse — does Brian think we’re all going to be visiting virtual NFT museums on vacations in the future? You have to listen and find out.
    Okay, Brian Chesky, CEO of Airbnb, here we go.

    Links:
    Can Brian Chesky Save Airbnb?
    Jony Ive is bringing his design talents to... Airbnb
    Zillow reportedly needs to sell 7,000 houses after it bought too many
    City of New York and Airbnb Reach Settlement Agreement
    Airbnb hosts discriminate against black guests based on names, study suggests

    Transcript:
    https://www.theverge.com/e/22547463

    Credits:
    Decoder is a production of The Verge, and part of the Vox Media Podcast Network. Today’s episode was produced by Creighton DeSimone, and Andrew Marino, our research was done by Liz Lian. And we are edited by Callie Wright. Our music is by Breakmaster Cylinder.
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    • 1 hr 13 min
    Why charging phones is such a complex business, with Anker CEO Steven Yang

    Why charging phones is such a complex business, with Anker CEO Steven Yang

    Nilay Patel talks to Steven Yang, the CEO and founder of Anker Innovations. The conversation covers the full stack of Decoder topics: taking bets on new tech like gallium nitride, building a direct-to-consumer business on Amazon, and the complexity of managing the Amazon relationship, regulatory issues, platform fees — you name it. And all from a company that started making phone chargers. Anker is endlessly fascinating.

    Links:
    Anker CEO Steven Yang is all in on USB-C
    Amazon-Native Brand Anker Goes Public
    EU proposes mandatory USB-C on all devices, including iPhones
    Gallium nitride is the silicon of the future
    Video: Is gallium nitride the silicon of the future?
    Anker MagGo devices snap on for wireless iPhone charging in your car and home
    Amazon confirms it removed RavPower, a popular phone battery and charger brand
    Another Amazon-first gadget brand has suspiciously vanished: Choetech
    Doug DeMuro on Decoder
    Nebula Capsule II mini projector review: TV in a can

    Transcript:
    https://www.theverge.com/e/22533880

    Credits:
    Decoder is a production of The Verge, and part of the Vox Media Podcast Network. Today’s episode was produced by Creighton DeSimone, Alexander Charles Adams, and Andrew Marino. We are edited by Callie Wright. Our music is by Breakmaster Cylinder. 
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    • 1 hr 4 min
    The secrets of the first real smartphone, with Dieter Bohn

    The secrets of the first real smartphone, with Dieter Bohn

    Welcome to a special Thursday edition of Decoder. You may have read on the site that Verge executive editor Dieter Bohn has been working on a documentary called Springboard: the secret history of the first real smartphone. It's about a company called Handspring and I think the Decoder audience will be really into this story so today we're interviewing Dieter. We talked about his documentary and he brought an exclusive clip that didn't make it into the film.
    That documentary is streaming now on The Verge's new streaming apps that you can get on your TV or set top box. We have them for Android, for Amazon Fire TV, for Roku and Apple TV. We've been working on these for a long time. It's a little more complicated than you might think to make these apps, make them good, distribute them on everyone's app stores, some real Decoder pain points in there.

    Links
    Springboard trailer and how to get the streaming apps

    Transcript
    https://www.theverge.com/e/22526129
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    • 21 min
    Meta’s Andrew Bosworth on moving Facebook to the metaverse

    Meta’s Andrew Bosworth on moving Facebook to the metaverse

    Facebook announced a major corporate rebrand by changing its company name to Meta. The new name is meant to solidify the social media giant’s longterm bet on building the metaverse. On this episode of Decoder, vice president of Reality Labs Andrew Bosworth talked with The Verge’s Alex Heath about Facebook’s rebrand to Meta, how content moderation will work in the metaverse, and the hardware journey from virtual to mixed reality, and eventually, AR glasses.

    Links:
    Mark Zuckerberg on why Facebook is rebranding to Meta
    Facebook is spending at least $10 billion this year on its metaverse division
    Eight things we learned from the Facebook Papers
    Facebook is planning to rebrand the company with a new name

    Transcript:
    https://www.theverge.com/e/22517027

    Credits:
    Decoder is a production of The Verge, and part of the Vox Media Podcast Network. Today’s episode was produced by Creighton DeSimone and Andrew Marino and we are edited by Callie Wright. Our music is by Breakmaster Cylinder. 
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    • 44 min
    Adobe's Scott Belsky on how NFTs will change creativity

    Adobe's Scott Belsky on how NFTs will change creativity

    Adobe is one of those companies that I don’t think we pay enough attention to — it’s been around since 1982, and the entire creative economy runs through its software. You don’t just edit a photo, you Photoshop it. We spend a lot of time on Decoder talking about the creator economy, but creators themselves spend all their time working in Adobe’s tools. On this episode, I’m talking to Scott Belsky, chief product officer at Adobe, about the new features coming to their products, many of which focus on collaboration, and about creativity broadly — who gets to be a creative, where they might work, and how they get paid.

    Transcript

    Links:
    NFTs Explained
    Adobe brings a simplified Photoshop to the web
    Adobe is adding a collaborative mood board to Creative Cloud
    Soon you can use Photoshop to prepare your art as an NFT
    The Dog Ramps Tweet
    The Furry Lisa, CryptoArt, & The New Economy Of Digital Creativity
    A $120,000 Banana Is Peeled From an Art Exhibition and Eaten
    Adobe and Twitter are designing a system for permanently attaching artists’ names to pictures
    "I still own you" clip

    Credits:
    Decoder is a production of The Verge, and part of the Vox Media Podcast Network. Today’s episode was produced by Creighton DeSimone, Alexander Charles Adams, and Andrew Marino and we are edited by Callie Wright. Our music is by Breakmaster Cylinder. 
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    • 1 hr 5 min

Customer Reviews

4.1 out of 5
2.6K Ratings

2.6K Ratings

ASobering ,

Entertaining, insightful, and actionable! 🔥

This podcast is so insightful and I’ve enjoyed every episode I’ve listened to so far! Nilay is a very skilled interviewer - he does such a great job of sharing his wisdom and I love how he leads meaningful conversations with industry leaders who bring so much experience and actionable insight to the table. Highly recommend checking this show out - you won’t be disappointed!

Tampa Bay 327 ,

One of the best.

One of the best podcasts.

0010010 ,

High Quality

Nilay is a superb interviewer. He obviously comes in prepared and informed, but he is willing to let a conversation flow and move in any direction if it’s interesting or relevant.

They pick interesting guests, but the conversations are more wide ranging than you would think from the episodes titles.

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