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Journalists tell you what you’re missing from the mainstream news. Co-hosted by award-winning journalists Maria Hinojosa and Julio Ricardo Varela, IN THE THICK has the conversations about race, identity and politics few people are discussing or want to discuss.

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Journalists tell you what you’re missing from the mainstream news. Co-hosted by award-winning journalists Maria Hinojosa and Julio Ricardo Varela, IN THE THICK has the conversations about race, identity and politics few people are discussing or want to discuss.

    A Pivotal Moment in American Labor

    A Pivotal Moment in American Labor

    Maria and Julio are joined by Kim Kelly, author and labor journalist, to talk about her new book, "Fight Like Hell: The Untold History of American Labor". They get into the history of labor organizing in the United States and how women of color and Black and brown workers have been at the forefront of these movements. They talk about the current labor movement in the U.S. and the multiple strikes and efforts to unionize across industries, including Kim’s personal experience with unions in media companies.

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    In this piece for the Washington Post, Rebecca Tan writes about how young LGBTQ workers have been taking a leadership role in unionizing Starbucks stores across the country.
    “In the new environment, businesses facing worker uprisings are attempting to co-opt the language of social justice movements and embrace trends around self-growth and positive lifestyles to counter demands for unionization,” writes Lee Fang in this piece for The Intercept. 
    Sharon Zhang reports about Chipotle workers’ efforts to form the company’s first-ever union at a branch in August, Maine, in this piece for Truthout. 


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    • 37 min
    A Post-Roe Reality

    A Post-Roe Reality

    Maria and Julio are joined by Kimberly Atkins Stohr, senior opinion writer for The Boston Globe and The Emancipator, and Jessica Mason Pieklo, senior vice president of Rewire News Group and co-host of the podcast Boom! Lawyered. They unpack the Supreme Court ruling to overturn Roe v. Wade and how this will affect people throughout the country. They also get into other recent decisions and discuss how Democrats should be responding. 

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    In their latest episode of Boom! Lawyered, co-hosts Jessica Mason Pieklo and Imani Gandy react to the Supreme Court’s decision to overturn Roe v. Wade.
    For The Boston Globe, writer Kimberly Atkins Stohr unpacks Justice Stephen Breyer’s dissenting opinion to the Supreme Court’s decision to strike down New York’s concealed carry law.
    “The Supreme Court made this decision today and, unfortunately, your geographical location affects your autonomy,” the administrator of one Texas abortion clinic said she told waiting patients, in this piece by Chabeli Carrazana for The 19th.


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    • 38 min
    ITT Sound Off: Havoc on Our Democracy

    ITT Sound Off: Havoc on Our Democracy

    Maria and guest co-host Christina Greer, political scientist, professor at Fordham University and co-host of the FAQ NYC podcast, talk about the latest on the House Committee’s January 6 hearings. They also discuss new details on the law enforcement’s response to the mass shooting in Uvalde. Plus, Maria shares her thoughts on the Supreme Court decision to overturn Roe v. Wade.

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    For The 19th, reporter Shefali Luthra explains how the Supreme Court’s decision to overturn Roe v. Wade will impact abortion rights around the country.
    Witnesses at the January 6th hearings are testifying about what it’s like to be targeted by Trump’s machine of hate-mongering and harassment, writes Evan Osnos for The New Yorker.
    “Now, after a long procession of funerals, the collective grief here is turning into collective rage,” write Silvia Foster-Frau and Teo Armus in this piece on a group of mothers and activists in Uvalde, for The Washington Post


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    • 25 min
    Raising Antiracist Leaders

    Raising Antiracist Leaders

    Maria and Julio are joined by Ibram X. Kendi, founding director of the Boston University Center for Antiracist Research, for a conversation about his new book “How to Raise an Antiracist.” They discuss the evolution of his antiracist scholarship, the rise in mass shootings and white supremacist attacks, and how Black and brown communities can work together in solidarity.

    This episode was mixed by Rosana Cabán.

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    Jaden Edison writes about how descendants of formerly enslaved people are using the Juneteenth holiday to educate younger generations, in this article for the Texas Tribune. 
    “As Americans celebrate Juneteenth this year, it is difficult not to wonder how much more free — truly free — Black Americans are today than they were on Juneteenth 1922, or even Juneteenth 1865,” writes Sean Collins in this article for Vox. 
    Nicole Carr investigates how a Black public school educator was targeted by white parents in Georgia in this collaboration from ProPublica and Frontline.


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    • 32 min
    ITT Sound Off: Obvious Criminality

    ITT Sound Off: Obvious Criminality

    Maria and Julio discuss the latest House committee hearing on the January 6 attempted coup at the U.S. Capitol. They also get into a commemorative coin that’s been circulating, which shows Border Patrol agents chasing Haitian migrants on horseback, and they reflect on the 10 year anniversary of DACA. Finally, they unpack the special election in South Texas, where Republican Mayra Flores won the congressional seat.

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    “If the coins are connected to Border Patrol agents, they could become the latest example of what immigrant advocates have said is a prevalence of offensive humor within the ranks, after Facebook posts making fun of dead migrants and lawmakers surfaced in 2019,” reports Hamed Aleaziz for the LA Times.
    Rommel H. Ojeda at Documented spoke to Dreamers who share that they are in a state of anxiety because of DACA’s uncertainty, and that the program is not enough.
    Mayra Flores’ win in South Texas’ 34th congressional district shows how Republicans have been working to flip the region, reports Patrick Svitek for The Texas Tribune.


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    • 20 min
    The American Myth

    The American Myth

    Maria and Julio are joined by Josiah Neville Bates, staff writer at TIME, and Gisela Pérez de Acha, an investigative reporter with UC Berkeley who focuses on extremism, to unpack the epidemic of gun violence in the United States. They talk about what a meaningful response might look like, the nuances of gun control legislation in Black and brown communities, and the intersection of policing and gun violence. Plus, we hear from Meg Juarez, whose father Luis Juarez was killed in the El Paso mass shooting in 2016, and Gregory Jackson Jr., a gun violence survivor and executive director of the Community Justice Action Fund.

    This episode was mixed by Rosana Cabán.

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    “When people of color are involved in acts of gun violence, the assumption is we are to blame. We are living in the wrong neighborhood, or the violence was the result of criminal activity. However, it is our communities that are most affected and harmed by these tragedies,” writes Gregory Jackson Jr. in this piece for The Guardian.
    For The 19th, reporter Nadra Nittle chronicles the efforts of young women activists of color, who have become major leaders in the fight against gun violence.
    In his latest piece for TIME, Josiah Neville Bates writes about 11-year-old Miah Cerrillo’s testimony before Congress after surviving the shooting at Robb elementary school in Uvalde, Texas.


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    • 39 min

Customer Reviews

4.8 out of 5
1.8K Ratings

1.8K Ratings

totallytali ,

Fuels my heart, mind and soul

So, so grateful to have ITT!!! Wajahat Ali and Julio together always makes my heart happy and laugh outloud. Jeni Monet guest hosting is also incredible. And Julio and Maria are always bringing the truth and perspective. This show keeps me engaged with my global community; as Maria said, “we are living through a tsunami.” Being an empath, this show gives me space to feel. Constantly humanizing and for that I am eternally grateful.

Marie Skee ,

Julio can sing - my vote

This podcast is my favorite one. I cried last week when Maria read the names. I laughed this week at Julio’s rendition of Caravan of Love. Came here couple years back when Wajahat Ali mentioned it. All the All-Stars are amazing and this is the journalism I want and need. Thank you.

Newslover61 ,

My Favorite Poscast

I discovered In the Thick a few months ago and now I listen to every episode. It is so refreshing to hear these candid conversations about the news from BIPOC perspectives. It is so helpful to have reporters I can trust in these difficult times when there is so much misinformation and disinformation online. Thank you, Maria and Julio!!

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