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How did four highly decorated American soldiers become prisoners of war in their own country? This series re-examines the US Department of Justice’s controversial prosecution following a gun battle in Baghdad between Iraqi insurgents and military contractors. Why did the DOJ hold multiple trials for over a decade? Was the DOJ seeking justice? Or playing politics?

Raven 23: Presumption of Guilt Think Again

    • Government
    • 4.6 • 351 Ratings

How did four highly decorated American soldiers become prisoners of war in their own country? This series re-examines the US Department of Justice’s controversial prosecution following a gun battle in Baghdad between Iraqi insurgents and military contractors. Why did the DOJ hold multiple trials for over a decade? Was the DOJ seeking justice? Or playing politics?

    Closing Argument

    Closing Argument

    The men of Raven 23 resist mounting prosecutorial pressure to plead guilty, and must finally face trial -- a legal odyssey that dragged for seven more years and encompassed three trials. In this episode, Gina chronicles the repeated violations of the men’s civil rights at the hands of prosecutors who are aided by a complicit judge.
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    • 1 hr 1 min
    Homecoming

    Homecoming

    In our final episode, Gina visits with Dustin Heard, Evan Liberty, Nick Slatten and Paul Slough three months after President Donald J. Trump issued unconditional pardons to free them from prison. They talk about hearing the news that they were coming home to their families for Christmas, and about their hopes and dreams. 
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    • 50 min
    The Expendables

    The Expendables

    Gina examines the role played by the national press in the prosecution of Raven 23.
    Although he is mere months from taking senior status, Judge Royce Lamberth inexplicably seizes the Raven 23 case, minutes after it is randomly assigned to another judge. This move is consistent with Lamberth’s checkered legal and judicial career.

    FOR MORE:

    ADMINISTRATIVE LAW REVIEW
    Royce Lamberth's Rein of Terror
    https://www.jstor.org/stable/40712173

    WASHINGTON POST
    At US Urging, Court Throws Lamberth off Indian Case
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/2006/07/12/at-us-urging-court-throws-lamberth-off-indian-case/72b9f5cd-e668-4d9f-98f9-10d83e5052b7/

    JUDICIAL PROFILE
    Royce Lamberth
    https://www.fedbar.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/LamberthMay2008-pdf-3.pdf

    • 54 min
    Joe Biden's Baghdad Betrayal

    Joe Biden's Baghdad Betrayal

    Just two days after Judge Ricardo Urbina threw out the government’s case against Raven 23, US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and her legal advisors were scheming on ways to revive it.
    The news of the dismissal reverberated across Iraq, with religious and political leaders demanding that the US Justice Department bring new charges against Dustin Heard, Paul Slough, Evan Liberty and Nick Slatten. 
    State Department cables from the time show that the Iraqi government was threatening to withdraw from the Status of Forces Agreement and lucrative oil contracts.
    Obama sent Vice President Joseph Biden to Iraq to assure the Iraqi people publicly that they would have “justice” in the Raven 23 case.
    FOR MORE:

    WIKILEAKS
    State Department diplomatic cables: "Fallout over Blackwater Continues"
    https://wikileaks.org/plusd/cables/10BAGHDAD63_a.html

    ASSOCIATED PRESS
    Biden says "U.S. to Appeal Blackwater Dismissal"
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amGSJuwszC8

    • 52 min
    Breaking the Code

    Breaking the Code

    Gina and Mike examine the US government’s machinations to overcome the shortcomings of the investigation.

    Witness accounts begin shifting as US prosecutors pressure witnesses to bring the case to trial in response to mounting political pressure in Iraq.
    Prosecutors convene a grand jury to try to make manslaughter charges stick against Dustin Heard, Evan Liberty, Paul Slough and Nick Slatten. Their star witness is Raven 23 team member Jeremy Ridgeway, who recants his statement that the convoy took incoming fire after prosecutors threaten him.
    Heard, Liberty, Slatten and Slough describe increasingly aggressive tactics by FBI agents and prosecutors to try to force them into guilty pleas.
    Less than a day after Judge Urbina kills the case, US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton queries her legal advisor, Harold Koh: “What can we do about Judge Urbina’s ruling?”
    FOR MORE:

    WIKILEAKS
    Hillary Clinton Email Archive -- Blackwater case
    https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/680

    ABC NEWS
    Jeremy Ridgeway pleads guilty in secret deal.
    https://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/FedCrimes/story?id=6417440&page=1


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    • 30 min
    Congressional Justice For Warriors Caucus Offically Requests Presidental Pardon for Men of Raven 23

    Congressional Justice For Warriors Caucus Offically Requests Presidental Pardon for Men of Raven 23

    Today, on May 12, the Congressional Justice for Warriors Caucus sent a letter to President Trump formally requesting a Presidential Pardon for the men of Raven 23.  Representative Gohmert took the time to speak with Gina about the growing movement in Congress for a Presidential Pardon for Nicholas Slatten, Paul Slough, Evan Liberty, and Dustin Heard - four decorated military veterans unjustly serving time in prison for over five years now.  
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    • 27 min

Customer Reviews

4.6 out of 5
351 Ratings

351 Ratings

noobtoober69 ,

Podcast

Awesome! Very immersive and filled with tons of true warfighter stories would recommend

Cherylb2021 ,

Raven23

I came by this interview thru the Shawn Ryan podcast. It is compelling and it offers the perspective of these military men/ contractors that fought for their country and for their fellow military men. I recommend it highly.

Boingfish ,

Well done!

Thank you!

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