22 episodes

Back in EMT class there was one page in the textbook that covered legal issues in pre-hospital medicine. Our world is increasingly more complicated and as a result, one page just doesn't cover it anymore. In this podcast, Sam and Nick discuss important, relevant and modern aspects of EMS law that may have been overlooked in class.

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    • Health & Fitness
    • 4.8 • 30 Ratings

Back in EMT class there was one page in the textbook that covered legal issues in pre-hospital medicine. Our world is increasingly more complicated and as a result, one page just doesn't cover it anymore. In this podcast, Sam and Nick discuss important, relevant and modern aspects of EMS law that may have been overlooked in class.

    A *Very* Sticky Case-Crossover w/ EMS 20/20

    A *Very* Sticky Case-Crossover w/ EMS 20/20

    Spencer and Chris bring in the big guns from the Standard of Care podcast, Samantha Johnson and Nick Adams! This episode is probably one of the most disturbing cases of neglect we've reviewed in a while, so you've been warned!

    FAST24 | June 10 - 12, 2024 | Wilmington, North CarolinaFAST24 is our annual conference for pre-hospital and critical care transport professionals, including nurses, paramedics, and other disciplines. It features engaging workshops, talks by industry leaders, and focused sessions on air and surface critical care transport medicine. The event also offers a unique vendor experience, special guest appearances from notable talent in the industry, catered lunches, as well as relaxing and entertaining networking and social opportunities. Tickets are limited so don’t wait! Visit https://fastsymposium.com for more information.

    • 1 hr 44 min
    Show Me My Opponent

    Show Me My Opponent

    On a hot Texas summer day, Dallas Fire responded to a grass fire on the side of the road.  Their subsequent encounter with a gentleman named Kyle Vess – all caught on surveillance camera - led to an ongoing lawsuit alleging “an abuse of power and a deliberate indifference to the life and welfare of the underprivileged in Dallas”.  What is the role of paramedics when confronted with a possible suspect?  Is it ever appropriate to fight a patient?  Are certain policies and practices of the department contributing to a perception (or a reality) that marginalized individuals are being treated differently?  Nick and Sam discuss all this and more.  Please like, comment, and subscribe!   
    Links:
    https://youtu.be/EGrlXDYzqqk
    https://youtu.be/-IbjBf88gpo
    https://www.dallasobserver.com/news/lawsuit-dallas-paramedic-kicked-man-in-face-while-in-police-custody-12235286
    https://www.dallasobserver.com/news/dallas-tries-withholding-evidence-in-lawsuit-regarding-former-paramedic-brad-cox-who-kicked-man-in-face-12941255
    https://www.dallasobserver.com/news/kyle-vess-court-rules-lawsuit-against-city-and-former-paramedic-can-move-forward-14303422
    https://www.dallasobserver.com/news/video-dallas-fire-rescue-employee-kicks-man-in-face-12455856See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    • 1 hr 13 min
    The Problematic Employee

    The Problematic Employee

    An employee commits a terrible crime – should the employer be liable?  In this episode, we explore the nuances of negligent hiring, retention, supervision, and training.  What does it mean for an employee to be “in the scope of employment” to allow their employer to be sued in the first place?  When is an EMS agency responsible for its own negligence in keeping a problematic employee on staff?  If an employee commits a terrible crime, is the agency automatically off the hook?  Please like, comment, and subscribe!   See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    • 44 min
    The Worst of Us

    The Worst of Us

    Season 3 is here!
    The release of the police body camera footage in the cases of Earl Moore, Jr. in Springfield, Illinois and Tyre Nichols in Memphis, Tennessee show EMS personnel at their worst.  In both cases, the providers failed to assess their patients and render proper treatment.  In Illinois, these failures resulted in first degree murder charges; in Tennessee, the firings of the personnel involved.  The results of the cases may differ based upon whether the providers have qualified immunity.  In this episode, Nick and Samantha discuss the legal concept of qualified immunity and its application in the two cases.  We take a hard look at what these cases say about EMS as a profession, and what it means to have the worst of us on public display.  Please like, comment, and subscribe!   
    The Standard of Care now has an email address!  Contact us directly at standardofcarepodcast@gmail.com!  We want to hear from you!  Tell us about the legal issues you’ve encountered, interesting cases you’d like us to discuss, and let us know what’s on your mind.
     
    Links:
     
    EMS 20/20 Show – Rapid Sequence Information. (2023, January 16). Reaction: Two EMS Workers CHARGED WITH FIRST DEGREE MURDER [Video]. YouTube. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCqL3DF-apE
    Finton, L. (2023, January 30). Three Memphis Fire Department Personnel Fired for Not Providing Aid to Tyre Nichols. The Commercial Appeal. Retrieved February 3, 2023, from https://www.commercialappeal.com/story/news/crime/2023/01/30/three-memphis-fire-department-personnel-fired-for-not-providing-aid-to-tyre-nichols/69855376007/
    JEMS Staff (2023, January 31). Memphis Fire Department Fires Three in Connection to Tyre Nichols' Death. JEMS. Retrieved February 3, 2023, from https://www.jems.com/patient-care/report-tyre-nichols-may-have-survived/#:~:text=Memphis%20Fire%20Department%20Fires%20Three%20in%20Connection%20to%20Tyre%20Nichols'%20Death,-By&text=The%20Memphis%20Fire%20Department%20has,'%20death%2C%20the%20department%20announced
    Olsen, D. (2023, February 3). New Details Emerge in Case Against EMS Workers Charged with Murder. Illinois Times. Retrieved February 3, 2023, from https://www.illinoistimes.com/springfield/new-details-emerge-in-case-against-ems-workers-charged-with-murder/Content?oid=16407188
    WAND Staff (2023, January 16). Police Release Body Cam Footage from Fatal EMS Incident. WAND. Retrieved February 3, 2023, from https://www.wandtv.com/news/police-release-body-cam-footage-from-fatal-ems-incident/article_60ac0d16-9118-11ed-8a09-43e4be2bb405.htmlSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    • 1 hr 7 min
    Lazarus Syndrome

    Lazarus Syndrome

    It’s the stuff of nightmares and horror stories: the dead rising from the grave.  On August 23, 2020, it happened in Michigan after a woman who was declared deceased by the responding EMS crew “woke up” in a funeral home.  Her case has been described as an instance of “Lazarus Syndrome”, or “autoresuscitation after failed cardiopulmonary resuscitation”, but was it this rare condition or negligence on the part of the providers?  Nick and Samantha discuss the family’s $50 million lawsuit against the City and the providers and examine the clinical and legal issues around patients presumed to be deceased.  Please like, comment, and subscribe!    
     
    Links:  
     
    Erika Lattimore, as Guardian of Timesha Beauchamp, An Incapacitated Person v. City of Southfield, Michael Storms, Scott Rickard, Phillip Mulligan, and Jake Kroll, In Their Individual Capacity, Jointly And Severally, United States District Court for the Eastern District of Michigan, Civil Action File No. 2:20-cv-12738, filed October 8, 2020.  Complaint available at: http://www.firelawblog.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/19/2020/10/US_DIS_MIED_2_20cv12738_COMPLAINT_filed_by_All_Plaintiffs_against_All_Defe.pdf
     
    Michael Storms, Scott Rickard, Phillip Mulligan, and Jake Kroll v. Oakland County Medical Control Authority et al., United States District Court for the Eastern District of Michigan, Civil Action File No. 4:20-cv-12457, filed September 8, 2020.
     
    Katherine Mims Crocker, Qualified Immunity, Sovereign Immunity, and Systemic Reform, 71 Duke L.J. 1701-1780 (2022), available at: https://scholarship.law.duke.edu/dlj/vol71/iss8/1
     
    Hutchinson, D. and MacDonald, M., (2020, September 16, updated 2020, October 19), “She’s Still Breathing”: Hear 911 Call From Moment Workers Realized Southfield Woman Declared Dead Was Alive, ClickOnDetroit https://www.clickondetroit.com/news/local/2020/09/16/shes-still-breathing-hear-911-call-from-workers-realized-southfield-woman-declared-dead-was-alive/
     
    Kaur, H. et al., (2020, October 20), Family of Woman Who Died Weeks After She Was Found Alive at a Funeral Home Sues Paramedics For $50 Million, CNN, https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/20/us/timesha-beauchamp-dies-lawsuit-trnd
     
    McEvoy, M., (2019, June 21), “Dead Wrong”, EMS1.com https://www.ems1.com/ems-products/medical-monitoring/articles/dead-wrong-RXW3893p2D3u8R3T/
     
    Varone, K. (host). (2020, September 13).  Interview With Attorney For Disciplined Michigan Firefighters In Mistaken Death Pronouncement (No. 35) [Audio podcast episode]. Fire Law Blog. https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/podcast-episode-35-interview-with-attorney-for/id876773998?i=1000491102861
     
    White, E., (2020, December 10), Paramedics Who Wrongly Pronounced Timesha Beauchamp 'Dead' Can Regain Licenses, Detroit Free Press https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/2020/12/10/timesha-beauchamp-paramedics-regain-licenses/3883480001/
     
    WXYZ Detroit, (2020, October 8), Fieger Files $50 Million Lawsuit in Case of Woman Found Alive After Being Pronounced Dead, https://www.wxyz.com/news/fieger-files-50-million-lawsuit-in-case-of-woman-found-alive-after-being-pronounced-dead
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    • 58 min
    Deliberate Indifference

    Deliberate Indifference

    Dispatchers, call-takers, emergency communications officers – our 911 communications staff are our first first responders.  They work to ensure that patients receive the right resources for their emergencies.  But sometimes, it goes wrong.  According to a recently filed lawsuit, a Pennsylvania dispatcher refused to send an ambulance to a patient, resulting in the patient’s death.  The incident was allegedly so egregious that the local district attorney filed criminal charges against the dispatcher and his leadership.  In this episode, Nick and Samantha discuss the case of Titchennell v. Greene County, Pennsylvania, and explore the liability issues for 911 centers.  Please like, comment, and subscribe!    
     
    Links:  
     
    Kelly D. Titchenell, Administratrix of the Estate of Diania L. Kronk, deceased v. Greene County and Robert J. “Jeff Rhodes”, individually and as an employee of Greene County Emergency Management/911 Communications Center; and Leon Price, individually and as an employee of Greene County Emergency
    Management/911 Communications Center, Individually and Severally, United States District Court, Western District of Pennsylvania, No. 2:22-CV-890.
     
    CBS Interactive. (2022, July 22). 3 More Charged After 911 Operator Accused of Not Sending Help. CBS News. Retrieved September 1, 2022, from https://www.cbsnews.com/news/911-operator-accused-of-not-sending-help-three-more-charged/
    Mark Scolforo | The Associated Press. (2022, July 8). Pa. 911 Dispatcher Charged with Manslaughter After Failing to Send Ambulance. Pennlive. Retrieved September 1, 2022, from https://www.pennlive.com/news/2022/07/pa-911-dispatcher-charged-with-manslaughter-after-failing-to-send-ambulance.html
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    • 54 min

Customer Reviews

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30 Ratings

Emtjaybird495 ,

Excellent!

This show has allowed me to look at our documentation and see how we can improve in so many ways. This has been an amazing source of information!

chimedic44 ,

Its a great show. Awesome concept but…

Im listening to the latest show and the hosts are clearly knowledgeable. My issue comes with two things. Firstly, when reviewing cases, it takes up a fair amount of time and energy to sit and listen to you be surprised or amazed at this or that thing that happens in the field. You are the host. You are presenting to me. If at every new fact, I have to listen to an extra few seconds of you laughing or reacting, it honestly gets tiring. Which brings me to my second point. The show I am listening to is so slow. Spit it out. Get out the facts quickly and then give me your legal expertise. The attorney crawls through the show. Im 46 minutes into what could be a 30 minute show. And they are not done yet. Move it along. Podcasts are meant to be digestible. Im here for your expertise. Not to hear you be amazed at what is normal for any big city medic to encounter. Also edit out your dead space. So many pauses.

Go faster and you will have a real banger of s show.

Just my two cents.

GODUX!! ,

One of a kind!

There is nothing like this for EMS! A breath of fresh air for a topic that is elusive for most EMS providers!

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