27 episodes

Here we refuse to accept inequity. This is a bimonthly podcast interview series for people who are actively learning and unlearning their role in upholding systems that hurt people. People who wish we’d care about each other’s experiences more often.

Hear stories from folks who are challenged by injustice everyday. Hear stories from folks using their skills to recreate the world as it should be.

New episodes twice a month.

As It Should Be with Thamarrah Jones Thamarrah Jones

    • Society & Culture
    • 5.0 • 16 Ratings

Here we refuse to accept inequity. This is a bimonthly podcast interview series for people who are actively learning and unlearning their role in upholding systems that hurt people. People who wish we’d care about each other’s experiences more often.

Hear stories from folks who are challenged by injustice everyday. Hear stories from folks using their skills to recreate the world as it should be.

New episodes twice a month.

    23: My Culture's Not Your Punchline with Sandhya Jain Patel (she/her)

    23: My Culture's Not Your Punchline with Sandhya Jain Patel (she/her)

    Culture is so deeply personal that when you see it reflected back at you in a way that’s gimmicky or stereotypical or just downright racist it's impossible to not take that personally. Which is why we expect creators of these productions to actually care enough to try to get it right. Sandhya Jain Patel (she/her) joins the show to discuss what it looks like to get cultural inclusion right.

    Today's episode is brought to you by the Reframeables and TwentyTwice podcasts

    Find more As It Should Be on asitshouldbepod.com

    • 40 min
    22: Defund Forced Labor in Supply Chain Production with Fatimah Walee (she/her)

    22: Defund Forced Labor in Supply Chain Production with Fatimah Walee (she/her)

    Do you know where the products you own come from? Not where you bought them, but was the person who picked the tomatoes in your tomato paste given fair wages, regular breaks, and adequate water? Was child labor used to create anything you own? It's impossible to answer those questions when companies just won't supply the info. In this episode, Fatimah Walee (she/her), Founder & CEO of Neuterra, joins to help us get some answers.

    Support Neuterra: Donate as little as $15 to help Neuterra bring supply chain transparency to 5 small and midsize businesses. Trace a product's story from the first kilometer to the last mile.

    Today's episode is brought to you by the Reframeables podcast.

    • 26 min
    21: Healing Generational Trauma in America with Resmaa Menakem (he/him) | Pt. 2

    21: Healing Generational Trauma in America with Resmaa Menakem (he/him) | Pt. 2

    This is part 2 of a two-part episode with Resmaa Menakem (he/him). In this segment, we discuss the origin of Resmaa's book The Quaking of America and how we can be cultivating joy and healing in community.

    Support Resmaa: His new book The Quaking of America is out now

    Support the show: Buy audiobooks from Libro.fm using code ASITSHOULDBE at checkout to get 2 books for the price of 1.

    • 27 min
    20: Healing Generational Trauma in America with Resmaa Menakem (he/him) | Part 1

    20: Healing Generational Trauma in America with Resmaa Menakem (he/him) | Part 1

    Resmaa Menakem (he/him), author of NYT best seller My Grandmother's Hands, joins me in conversation experiencing the overturning of Roe v wade and its effect on Black bodies. We discuss how anti-democratic elements in America are inciting widespread chaos and a collective trauma response in tens of millions of bodies in America. We also talk about our body's response to trauma and go through exercises of somatic practices to mobilize our healing towards the fight for justice.

    This is part 1 of a 2 part episode.

    Support Resmaa: His new book The Quaking of America is out now

    Support the show: Buy audiobooks from Libro.fm using code ASITSHOULDBE at checkout to get 2 books for the price of 1.

    • 31 min
    Best Of | 01: Decolonizing K12 Education with Susie Berg (she/her)

    Best Of | 01: Decolonizing K12 Education with Susie Berg (she/her)

    This is a replay of the very first episode of the As It Should Be podcast recorded in Nov 2020. In this episode, Thamarrah and Susie discuss how the makers of K12 education content are pushing the industry towards more inclusivity by decentering the white experience.
    Susie Berg (she/her) is a writer, change agent, and co-conspirator for racial justice. Susie is a Senior Digital Solutions Strategist and Global Diversity and Inclusion Advocate at Pearson, the world’s learning company, an organization committed to helping change lives through learning.
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    • 47 min
    19: Support Women of Color in Business with Olivia Owens (she/her)

    19: Support Women of Color in Business with Olivia Owens (she/her)

    It's well documented women of color founders face both gender & racial inequities when it comes to building and growing their businesses. What I want to know is, what's being done about it? Olivia Owens and iFundWomen of Color are giving WOC founders the capital, coaching, and connections they need to kill the game. We discuss the unique barriers women of color founders face in building sustainable businesses, the best funding resource to kick start your business, and the role corporations play in moving us forward. 

    SUPPORT THE SHOW 

    Become a Patron for $3 per month at patreon.com/thamarrahjones Send me a coffee at buymeacoffee.com/thamarrahjones Leave a review on Apple podcasts or rate it on Spotify.

    • 29 min

Customer Reviews

5.0 out of 5
16 Ratings

16 Ratings

meemee987 ,

Powerful

Powerful and important conversations, led by a really insightful host.

Keclectic ,

Nice job!!

I love the fact that this podcast talks about alternative ways of being and interviews people who are paving their own way.

YoGirlTT ,

LOVE IT! 12/10

This podcast is all that and a bag of chips. I love a good mix of learning, laughing, smiling, and cringing.

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