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Small discussions that explore and connect broad conversations around a topic to our actual everyday lived experiences.

In Between Jeffery Saddoris

    • Society & Culture
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Small discussions that explore and connect broad conversations around a topic to our actual everyday lived experiences.

    In Between 19: Too Many Distractions, Too Little Art

    In Between 19: Too Many Distractions, Too Little Art

    Last week, I decided to take a much needed break from social media. There’s just too much going on in the world that pulls my focus away from the areas of my life that really warrant - and frankly need - that focus - specifically my family and my art. In my final Instagram post before the break, I wrote that I wasn’t who I wanted to be lately followed by a list of distractions that to a lesser or greater extent contribute to it. After seeing the post, Jon reached out and asked if I’d like to talk about it.



    A CLARIFICATION: At one point in this episode, I refer to the "idiots on both sides" and I want to be clear that I was referring to Democrats and Republicans not hearing one another, not protestors and police. I cannot possibly understand what people of color are and have been experiencing and the anger and disappointment they must feel and I would never simply dismiss how they vent or express those feelings or equate that with police brutality.



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    SHOW NOTES

    David Goggins - https://davidgoggins.com/

    Elizabeth Gilbert's TED Talk - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86x-u-tz0MA

    Jocko Willink - https://jockopodcast.com/

    Cal Newport - Deep Work*

    CONNECT

    You can find Jon on Instagram @jonwilkening or on his website at jonwilkening.com



    If you have an interesting story to share, I’d love to hear from you. Email me at talkback@jefferysaddoris.com or connect with me on Instagram @jefferysaddoris.



    Music in this episode: Take Me Higher (Jahzzar) / CC BY-SA 4.0

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    • 45 min
    In Between 18: Balance and the Dark Side

    In Between 18: Balance and the Dark Side

    Back in January, I came across a terrific piece of writing by author Paul Jarvis. One part of it in particular really spoke to some of the things I’ve wrestled with over the years — loving what you do, following your passion, and the costly obsession that often goes along with each of those things. I ended up subscribing to Paul’s newsletter and regardless of whether you’re a full-time creative, an enthusiastic amateur or someone in the middle just trying to live a more creative or interesting life, there are so many valuable insights and observations that it’s quickly become one of my favorite weekly reads. I shared the piece with Jon and while he wasn’t familiar with it, he had actually spoken to Paul before. Since Jon is just as big a fan of rabbit holes as I am, I thought it might be fun to unpack it a little.







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    LINKS

    Paul Jarvis - https://pjrvs.com

    CONNECT

    You can find Jon on Instagram @jonwilkening or on his website at jonwilkening.com



    If you have an interesting story to share, I’d love to hear from you. Email me at talkback@jefferysaddoris.com or connect with me on Instagram @jefferysaddoris.



    Music in this episode: Take Me Higher (Jahzzar) / CC BY-SA 4.0

    • 43 min
    In Between 17: Art In Transit

    In Between 17: Art In Transit

    Several years ago when I wasn’t really sure what direction my life was taking, one of the ideas I kept coming back to was getting a Volkswagen Westfalia van and just driving around the country, allowing the universe to put interesting people and experiences in my path rather than trying to follow a specific plan. I hadn’t started podcasting yet, nor had I picked up my paint brushes again, so the “what I would be doing to actually support myself” aspect of it was pretty nebulous. Still, I loved the idea and for years it was a running joke between my friend Jude and me. Whenever one of us was dealing with some sort of personal or existential challenge, the other would respond with “well, you could always get a Westfalia van and just drive around.”



    For Dutch photographer Maarten Rots and his wife Anne, the dream of van life has become a reality. For 6 to 8 months a year, they trade their home in the Netherlands for a Ford Transit camper van and travel throughout Europe, often without a fixed destination. For Maarten, this way of traveling almost by instinct has proven to be the catalyst for some of his most compelling work both as an itinerant solo artist and as a collaborator with other artists he meets along the way.



    While I know the reality of it is not always as romantic as the way we see it from a distance, I can’t say I’m not just a little envious. In this conversation, I caught up with Maarten in Portugal where he was preparing a pop-up exhibit of his work, appropriately titled In Transit, at a local gallery.







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    CONNECT

    You can find Maarten on Instagram @maartenrots, or on his website at https://maartenrots.nl. Also, be sure to check out his magazine March & Rock.



    If you have an interesting story to share, I’d love to hear from you. Email me at talkback@jefferysaddoris.com or connect with me on Instagram @jefferysaddoris.



    Music in this episode: Take Me Higher (Jahzzar) / CC BY-SA 4.0

    • 1 hr 7 min
    In Between 16: 1917 and a Shiny Tennis Match

    In Between 16: 1917 and a Shiny Tennis Match

    A couple weeks ago, I got a text from my friend Sean who had just gotten out of the cinema seeing 1917, the new World War I epic from director Sam Mendes. The text simply read “so good.” I remember seeing the trailer for the film months ago and thinking that it looked incredible. But most of recent the buzz about the film seemed to center around the idea that it was all shot in one continuous take. In fact, the first plot keyword you’ll see in the IMDB listing for the film is “one take.” You’ll also read it or a variation of it in virtually every review of the film. The problem is it’s not true. 1917 was filmed to appear as one continuous shot, which it is a remarkable achievement on a film of this scale, but that doesn’t make it any more true. When I got the “so good” text from Sean, I remember asking him whether the one shot thing worked or if it came off as more of a gimmick. “I don’t know,” he responded. “I have mixed feelings I think.” Now that we’ve both seen it and had a chance to think about it, I thought it might be fun to talk about it. As you’ll hear, and as is often the case when Sean and I talk, the conversation went down a number of rabbit holes, which is one of the reasons I love talking to him.







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    LINKS

    1917 on IMDB - https://www.imdb.com/title/tt8579674/

    Roger Deakins Filmography - https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0005683/

    Making a Murderer - https://www.netflix.com/title/80000770

    Don’t F**k with Cats - https://www.netflix.com/title/81031373

    Cartel Land - https://www.amazon.com/Cartel-Land-Dr-Jose-Mireles/dp/B078SDYF83/

    Kelly Slater 24/7 - https://www.hbo.com/specials/247-kelly-slater

    Werner Herzog Masterclass - https://www.masterclass.com/classes/werner-herzog-teaches-filmmaking

    Of Walking in Ice - https://www.amazon.com/Walking-Ice-Munich-Paris-November-14-December/dp/0816697329/

    CONNECT

    You can find Sean on Instagram @seantuck, or on his website at https://www.seantucker.photography. Also, be sure to check out his YouTube channel, where he has just released a brand new video called “Balancing Your Photogr...

    • 1 hr 5 min
    In Between 15: Input, Inspiration, and Possibility

    In Between 15: Input, Inspiration, and Possibility

    The recent death of Rush drummer Neil Peart hit me like a ton of bricks. While I consider myself a visual artist, I can’t think of a single painter, or sculptor, or photographer whose death has or even would affect me as dramatically as Neil’s has and I can’t really reconcile why that is. It’s just not a simple answer. I’ve been a Rush fan since 1982, but as I’ve said before, it wasn’t the music that grabbed me initially, but the lyrics. Yes, the musicianship was superb, but the themes and the language that Neil used to explore those themes was unlike anything I’d ever heard or more to the point read before. There was also the timing of it all – that time in my life when who I was or was becoming had not yet solidified and I was still malleable and curious and full of wonder. All of this has gotten me thinking about the ways and degrees that others inspire us throughout our lives and I thought it might be interesting to spend some time unpacking it a little with Jon Wilkening, who always helps take the conversations in directions I wouldn't have thought of.













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    LINKS

    Rush: Beyond the Lighted Stage

    The Joe Rogan Podcast

    Tim Ferriss

    Black Swan: The Impact of the Highly Improbable



     

    CONNECT

    You can find Jon on Instagram @jonwilkening or on his website at jonwilkening.com



    If you have an interesting story to share, I’d love to hear from you. Email me at talkback@jefferysaddoris.com or connect with me on Instagram @jefferysaddoris.



    Music in this episode: Take Me Higher (Jahzzar) / CC BY-SA 4.0

    • 58 min
    In Between 14: What’s Effort Got to Do with It?

    In Between 14: What’s Effort Got to Do with It?

    I have a question for you, and the answer depends at least partly on the primary perspective you take - either as an audience member or a maker — when you think about how to answer. It centers around effort in art-making and to what degree the visibility of that effort affects how we connect to the work, both as the artist and as a viewer. Again, the answer is entirely subjective, but it’s something I'd like to continue to explore in multiple conversations over time. But before we get to that, we’re talking about culling our creativity — letting go of some of the distractions both literal and metaphorical and keeping — and really leaning into — the things that continue to challenge and inspire us to make.







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    CONNECT

    You can find Jon on Instagram @jonwilkening or on his website at jonwilkening.com



    If you have an interesting story to share, I’d love to hear from you. Email me at talkback@jefferysaddoris.com or connect with me on Instagram @jefferysaddoris.



     



    Music in this episode: Take Me Higher (Jahzzar) / CC BY-SA 4.0

    • 59 min

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